Refute Scientific error
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Can someone here pls help me refute the claims made by this video https//youtu.be/8yMD99gyr14 most of his claims to me are like he is forcing his own meaning into verses but anyway this seem like the compilation almost all the supposed scientific error in the Quran that the nonbelievers could come with, if we can refute this one then we would know for sure that the Quran has no scientific errors peace
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You might want to use the forum search function. I'd be surprised if the issues raised have not been discussed before.
List (taken from video)
0204 60. Stars are an adornment
0245 59. Stars are missiles
0348 58. Stars are near
0448 57. Stars will fall down
0614 56. Seven heavens
0614 55. Seven earths
0724 54. Allah brings the sun from the East
0808 53. The Sun orbits the Earth
0903 52. The Moon follows the Sun
0932 51. Sun and Moon can't overtake each other
1015 50. Sun and Moon will join
1054 49. The Moon will darken
1142 48. The Moon is a light
1211 47. The Moon was split in two
1311 46. Night rapidly chases the day
1340 45. Night and day enter each other
1415 44. The Night is a veil
1536 43. Day, night, Sun, and Moon
1637 42. The rising place of the Sun
1709 41. The resting place of the Sun
1859 40. The Sun sinks in a muddy spring
2051 39. The Sun indicates shadows
2202 38. No Southpole and Northpole
2254 37. The sky has no rifts
2346 36. The sky is a ceiling
2417 35. The sky should have pillars
2522 34. The sky would be stripped away
2535 33. The sky could fall apart
2600 32. The sky can be folded up
2618 31. Sky and Earth were joined
2722 30. Earth created before skies
2823 29. The sky was smoke
2902 28. Mountains placed into the Earth
2953 27. Mountains prevent earthquakes
3038 26. Mountains will be removed
3107 25. You can't pass the skies
3156 24. Altitude narrows chests
3222 23. Allah drives clouds
3307 22. Allah sends winds
3350 21. Winds bring good tiding
3432 20. Allah sends rain from the sky
3601 19. Rainwater is pure water
3638 18. Mountains of hail
3706 17. Allah sends thunderbolts
3756 16. Allah holds birds up
3836 15. Allah steers ships
3918 14. Barrier between seas
4102 13. All life is in communities
4203 12. Everything is in mates
4246 11. Plants in pairs
4246 10. Fruits in pairs
4345 9. Milk form livestock is pure and agreeable
4444 8. Milk between filth and blood
4521 7. Sperm comes from backbone and ribs
4635 6. Sperm = Human
4736 5. Sex is determined later
4916 4. Sperm becomes blood
4956 3. Flesh forms after bones
5050 2. 8 types of livestock
5136 1. The Earth is flat (and the Whale) -
Not all of then have been given satisfactory answers, some have been discussed years ago and with new scientific advancement now we can better understand and answer it, like the one talking about mountains stabilizing the earth, and some have not been discussed here at all, that is why I made this post so that they can be addressed in the same place once and for all
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i think (55 seven earths) topic is hardly discussed in recent past..
planets or the layers inside the earth ? or CONTINENTS ..
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peace someone12, all,
From my experience the people who claim various errors in Quran are usually poorly informed (e.g. inaccurate translation and/or Hadith-based translation) or biased (e.g. cherry-pick to present a certain slant to make it look like there is a problem). I had a debate one time with ex-Muslims about this, I'll see if I can find it later.
No.60 to 57 for starters
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his argument is Quran does not go into the detail or accuracy he would like. He points out no error/contradiction whatsoever.
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quote from Asad's translation of 675 "As regards the term rajm (pl. rujum), which literally denotes the "throwing like a stone" - i.e., at random - it is often used metaphorically in the sense of "speaking conjecturally" or "making the object of guesswork" (Jawhari, Raghib - the latter connecting this metaphor explicitly with the above verse -, Lisan al-'Arab, Qamus, Taj al-'Arus, etc.). Cf. also 376."
Having said that, the other cited verses can have wide interpretation. I haven't looked into it personally, but Asad's interpretation seems a possibility.
5 goes by Hadith-based interpretation and cites no explicit Quran error/contradiction
- again, goes by Hadith-based interpretation and/or Traditional tafsirs/explanations by choosing the meaning of "fall" when the root can mean otherwise
From project root list
Kaf-Dal-Ra = To be muddy, be obscure, lose light, fall.
inkadara vb. (7) perf. act. 812
LL, V7, p 124, 125 ## http//ejtaal.net/aa/#q=kdr
Remember, this guy claims to have only selected the strong/clear examples. No diligent student of Quran could ever consider the above examples as strong/clear. Sure for Traditional Muslims it may be a problem, but not Quran based muslims.
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WAKAS whats the justification of 7 EARTHS ?
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The 7 earth one can be many thing
A. Just like the 7 heavens are in layers the earth is also in layersB. There are 7 planets like earth in the heavens or
C.since ard literally means land then maybe it means the are 7 lands or continents
A its not proveable one have to dig a hole till the end. although only 3 (crust, mantle and core) are well-known as yet.
B there are billions of planets in billions of galaxies in heavens
C continets desinged by people .. and also how to design the continents ?Asia,Africa and Europe shared one big land mass...
South and North America also shared one big land mass..
Australia , Greenland, Antartica shared the land on their own..moreover new possible continent Zealandia currently New zealand got lot of its land underwater what make geologists think its another continent.
where and how do we adjust 7 ? at its accurate.
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A. It has been proven that the earth has multiple layers
B. I said planets like earth, maybe I could me the planets on the solar system or something but we can't know that.
C. The verse says the land is similar to the 7 heavens so it can be any number close to 7 or even 7 itself, also the heavens were not always 7 but when the verse was revealed they were so the same can go for the lands, they just have to be 7 when the verse was revealed, maybe there are even more that 7 heavens now still won't make what the Quran said about it being 7 at that time wrong
Or maybe the verse was not even comparing the numbers when it said similar, anyway if you want to check if the Quran is true or not you should use verses that talk about things we have definite answers or idea on
Peace
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anyway if you want to check if the Quran is true or not you should use verses that talk about things we have definite answers or idea on
A is there is any proof of seven layers ?
B if we cant know then why author is telling us ?
C cherry picking ?BOLD your thread is not about the verses that talks about absolute truth. on the contrary you wanted to talk on the issues which are not clear yet or possible scientific errors isnt it ? lol
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A. Who said anything about it being 7
B. We don't know about many things doesn't mean we won't, just like the verse about stages of development how were the people then supposed to confirm that, but we can know can't we
C. This is a list of possible interpretation so 2 of I stated must be false
Maybe you need to read my first and second
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A. Who said anything about it being 7
hmm how many layers been proved then ?
What about no. 2, 13, 15,18,27,28
2 its not 8 livestocks again depend on what things you wana add in livestock to make it eight..
example pork, veal, beef, lamb, mutton, camel, ( fish & poultry ) for makin it 8 but again it depends how to classify the livestock..
13 not all life live in communities there are some popular animals who like to live on their own, apart from mating or raising their young kids.. example leopard and polar bear..
15 "he causes the ships to float on sea" is similar to " he cause the leaf to fall from tree" (gravity and upward byoncy)
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3638 talking about motion of sun where did it comes from ?
although i rechecked the video and he pointed towards 2548 i did not see any mountain in the verse ?27 & 28 there was a thread on it if i recall you may get all that information regarding that issue.
most of the things are poorly interpreted by the up-loader.AND also things what does not make sense cannot possibly comes from God.
