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DABA = AI

Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved Prophecies of the Quran
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  • J Offline
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    jkhan
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    #31

    Peace jkhan.
    6158 is talking about one event only ,the day we see GOD and the angels-Day of judgement. This makes better sense

    Are they waiting for the angels to come to them, or your Lord, or some physical manifestations of your Lord? The day this happens, no soul will benefit from believing if it did not believe before that, and did not reap the benefits of belief by leading a righteous life.* Say, "Keep on waiting; we too are waiting."
    هَل يَنظُرونَ إِلّا أَن تَأتِيَهُمُ المَلٰئِكَةُ أَو يَأتِىَ رَبُّكَ أَو يَأتِىَ بَعضُ ءايٰتِ رَبِّكَ يَومَ يَأتى بَعضُ ءايٰتِ رَبِّكَ لا يَنفَعُ نَفسًا إيمٰنُها لَم تَكُن ءامَنَت مِن قَبلُ أَو كَسَبَت فى إيمٰنِها خَيرًا قُلِ انتَظِروا إِنّا مُنتَظِرونَ

    i.e Too late to believe and grow your soul,like we are supposed to do in this life.The soul is lost if one waited until they saw the Angels or GOD.
    Remember some people described Jesus and his miracles as an end sign. We are always closer to the end. This whole life is like few hours or even only like an hour, It goes like a blinking of the eye.. How long are millions of years compared to eternity.?
    GOD bless you.
    Peace.

    Translation of yours and in Corpus has huge difference... It doesn't say when. The day it happens...but see word by word...

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      Layth
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      #32

      Salam.

      Based on the responces here, I am inclined to believe that the ‘daba’ is even simpler than I had initially thought.

      The 2 verses that proceed 2782 as brother Jkhan shared are indeed meaningful to this topic.

      Here is a breakdown of some of the key words in this prophecy

      Daba = Movement/Moving Creature
      Min Alardh = from the ground/earth
      Tukalim = Speaks/Speech/Talk

      As a sign from God that the retribution is now due, a ‘thing’ that can move is brought out from the earth and it “talks” to people.

      The 2 verses that Jkhan pointed to speak twice about “hearing/listening”.

      So, what is the item that has been made from earthly material that is both mobile and is related to speaking/listening?

      https//www.google.com/amp/s/amp.news.com.au/technology/innovation/inventions/inside-story-of-the-worlds-first-mobile-phone-call/news-story/8f25cd59d136e2d6c3cbb0e4961de278

      If we look at these timelines of the moon landing in 1969 (541), the mobile phone being invented in 1973 (2782), and the mathematical structure of the Quran being discovered in 1974 (7429-30) - then I would say we are in for a wild ride perhaps in our lifetimes!

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        Houriya
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        2445 And God created every moving creature /dabbatin from water. So some of them move on their bellies, and some walk on two legs, and some walk on four. God creates whatever He wills. God is capable of all things.

        2782 And when the sentence has fallen upon them, We will bring out for them a creature—from of the earth—that speaks to them that / anna the people are unaware regarding Our signs.

        Dabbat will speak to them

        “And when the word has fallen upon them, We will produce for them a creature of the Earth that will speak to them.

        to tell what

        That / anna the people are unaware of Our signs”

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          Layth
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          2445 And God created every moving creature /dabbatin from water. So some of them move on their bellies, and some walk on two legs, and some walk on four. God creates whatever He wills. God is capable of all things.

          If the daba in question is 'made' (by man?), then it would not fall under this law of being 'created' from water.

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            Houriya
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            We will bring out for them a creature—from of the earth—that speaks to them that / anna the people are unaware regarding Our signs.

            We will bring out for them refers to the creator.

            Everything is created from water and the earth like the plants that emerge from the earth

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              Layth
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              Bringing something out does not always mean the thing brought out was 'created' or is 'alive' (e.g. God 'brings out' jewelry and ornaments for the people 732).

              Therefore, the Daba can be an inanimate/inorganic object that is 'brought out' from the materials of the earth by God.

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                Houriya
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                Dabbat in the light of the quran is a creature that moves and according to our verse Dabbat talks to the people..

                3414 Then, when We decreed death for him, nothing informed them of his death until an earth worm /dabbatu kept eating from his staff, so when he fell down, the Jinn realized that if they had known the unseen, they would not have remained in the humiliating retribution.

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                  tutti_frutti
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                  salam

                  my understanding is that the creature is literally a creature made from earth (humans are made from earth... and other i think the other earthly creatures too, as recall when jesus pbuh shaped a bird from
                  clay and it came to life by The God’s permission) that will speak to the people and tell them that they were unaware of the signs from The God (my opinion is that it will be an organic creature)

                  the mobile phone does not speak to people and does not tell them they were unaware of the signs

                  i believe we should take the Quran literally and not delve into interpretation wildly

                  that is my opinion - the creature is an organic creature that will literally talk to the people

                  peace

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                    Layth
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                    Salam.

                    There is no right or wrong interpretation when it comes to future prophecies - they remain conjecture until the act takes place and is no longer hidden.

                    It may very well be a creature, or it maybe a man made item, or it maybe neither.

                    I only gave my views as a) they can be supported by the text, and b) sometimes prophecies end up having the most simple of explanations.

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                      jkhan
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                      Peace everyone..

                      I've got a message stating that this verse 2782 could be refering to TV and there on all latest technology through which people get the communication..

                      He refers that TV was invented first in 1927 ..

                      1 + 9 + 2 + 7 = 19
                      2 + 7 + 8 + 2 = 19

                      It is not a bad choice either..
                      Everything speaks to us.. When we watch, we listen and let the TV or computer or mobile do the talking.. We have witnessed enough things through these medias.. If that is the right option, we are living in a period in which word of God is fallen already.. Only waiting for the Hour to occur.. Leta be patient and see what happens..

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