Can God forget?
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hello,
I was reading this verse, فَالْيَوْمَ نَنسَاهُمْ كَمَا نَسُواْ لِقَاءَ يَوْمِهِمْ 751 people who forgot god in this world god will forget them in the hereafter, and thinking 'can god forget?'
Salam!
Question should be "can Allah forget? Answer is Yes! He will forget people similarily as they used to forget Him. and this is Allah's own words in Al-Quran 751. If you cannot or don't want to believe His words then who would you believe?
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salam
yea the blood flesh doesnt reach Him but our piety does ... when we slaighter animals or eat of anything we mention Him and give thanks .. that is prt of worshipping Him
yes He does not need anyone or anything but we do need Him ... but that does not go against the definition of God
i understand God to mean the Lord .. the Creator ... they are interchangeable
He is THE God, there is No God/Lord/Creator ... but Him
so what does Al-Lah mean in terms of pure definition?
what do you define God to mean?
Al-Lah does not forget anything or anyone ... He is not bound by anything ... He literally does what He wants and He is the ONLY to literally do what He wants
when He says He will forget them i understand He will discard them and not have mercy on them or respond to their supplication
peace )
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yea the blood flesh doesnt reach Him but our piety does ... when we slaighter animals or eat of anything we mention Him and give thanks .. that is prt of worshipping Him
Salam!
Piety? What is its definition?
Killing a living being by mentioning His name is not killing?
Allah says in Al-Quran 532 that
Because of that, We decreed upon the Children of Israel that whoever kills a "soul" unless for a "soul" or for corruption in the land - it is as if he had slain "mankind" entirely. And whoever saves one - it is as if he had saved mankind entirely. And our messengers had certainly come to them with clear proofs. Then indeed many of them, after that, throughout the land, were transgressors.
Which "soul"? If you kill an animal for yourself and for your people then why mention His name?
Al-Quran 2205
And when he goes away, he strives throughout the land to cause corruption therein and destroy crops and animals. And Allah does not like corruption.
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Peace TellMeTheTruth.
Allah/GOD is The Creator and The Ruler of this universe .
Exactly.That is what I wanted to say to you all along.Allah/GOD bless you.
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TellMeTheTruth, for the sake of your name, Allah is presented in the quran as the "true god", while other gods of the region are presented as false gods (allat, uza, manat). Another thing is the pre-islamic rituals done to the false gods (or any god for that matter) like animal sacrifice carried over to the god of the quran. But also pre-islamic local beliefs like the invisible desert dwellers (the Jinn) who were not mentioned in the previous abrahamic religions. So you make of that what you will. Also correct me if I'm wrong.
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salam tellmethetruth
killing animals is a corruption?
are we not told by God that we could eat from their meat and ride on them etc and that we should not eat of them if they were not dedicated to Him?
peace
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TellMeTheTruth, for the sake of your name, Allah is presented in the quran as the "true god", while other gods of the region are presented as false gods (allat, uza, manat). Another thing is the pre-islamic rituals done to the false gods (or any god for that matter) like animal sacrifice carried over to the god of the quran. But also pre-islamic local beliefs like the invisible desert dwellers (the Jinn) who were not mentioned in the previous abrahamic religions. So you make of that what you will. Also correct me if I'm wrong.
Salam, dear brother!
A god is a god. You believe in one god because you believe that he/she/it is the true god. Similarily someone else bielieves in another god because he/she believes that his/her god is the true god. You will call others' god as a false god and they will call your god a false god.
Allah tells in quran that they will never follow your qibla and you will never follow their qibla. And that is due to the above-mentioned reason.
Pre-islamic Arabs worshipped a god called Allah. Do you worship the same Allah? Or some other Allah? Which Allah is a true god?
In Quran 6154
Then We gave Moses the Scripture, making complete upon the one who did good and as a " detailed explanation of all things and as guidance and mercy " that perhaps in the meeting with their Lord they would believe.
Secondly, it is true that pre-islamic rituals are added up in deen.
Well, why not fully detailed book given to moses, had no mention of desert-dwelling djinns? Let's tell Allah that He forgot to mention something in His previous scriptures (استعذ باللہ).
I will appreciate your answer if you also give references from Quran in support.
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salam tellmethetruth
The God never tells us in Quran that djinn are desert dwelling !
and i understand that people changed the sayings in Torah and Injeel so maybe djinn where slowly erased from those books
or maybe the djinn in the other books are what they call fallen angels ... as from my understanding in Quran angels and djinns are perhaps same creation but angels believed and were chosen by God to be His “assistants” but sjinns initially disbelieves until some reverted when the Quran was sent down
Al-Lah means The God so perhaps “pre islamic” arabia believed in a God they called The God but had some additions (the female alat etc) or they believed in The God and had additions
maybe I am wrong but perhaps prophet mohammed pbuh and people with him are descendants of ishmail pbuh and those who were with him and hence why the word Al-Lah survived (mohammed pbuh and his people are referred to as people of the shrine and ishmael pbuh resided in/around the shrine) i believe sacred shrine to be in/around petra perhaps the monastery (God mentions in Quran the romans and about people saying trinity ... there were no romans or christians in southern arabia as per my understanding)
that is just my thoughts maybe i am wrong
in any case i still have trouble understanding what your point is
on a side note about monastery in petra being the sacred shrine
*counter arguments for monastery being the sacred shrine - i read byzantine carved crosses inside and that it had hellenistic influence in architecture ...
*arguments pro - in an elevated place, no pagan drawings (except carved crosses), romans took over it so maybe that is what is meant by barring the prophet mohammed pbuh and muslims from it, thought to be a religious gathering place ...
peace
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salam tellmethetruth
killing animals is a corruption?
are we not told by God that we could eat from their meat and ride on them etc and that we should not eat of them if they were not dedicated to Him?
peace
Salam, dear tutti frutti!
In my previous post/answer, I have given references from Quran and you may verify.
Animals are also Allah's creations as we are. For example
Saheeh International
And there is no creature on the earth or bird that flies with its wings except communities like you. We have not neglected in the Register a thing. Then unto their Lord they will be gathered.
are they not living beings like us? They have red blood as we have, they breathe like us, they bear children like us. (The only difference is of intelligence level, which is Ruh from Allah. 1529 and 3879. Note روحی My Ruh is used in first person.)- If you dedicate an animal to Allah by mentioning His name on them then why you or other people eat from them? Will you not become partners of Allah? On the other hand, Allah does not need Rizq from us.
- If you kill animals for youself or your family/people then it becomes اھل لغیر اللہ (i.e., killed for other than Allah) so it would be haram.
Allah has told what you can eat from animals. Refer to Quran I666.
Peace!
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salam tellmethetruth
thank you for your reply
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mentioning the name of God when killing animals is to thank Him and acknoweldge that He creates them (and everything else)
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we dont slaughter them for us or our family as in our glory .. no one has any glory as all glory belongs to The God ... humans slaughter animals to eat and so they could live an extra day non? we supposed to not eat animals or fruits etc?
vivons d’amour et d’eau fraiche alors ) lol
what is your point? lol
peace my friend
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salam tellmethetruth
thank you for your reply
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mentioning the name of God when killing animals is to thank Him and acknoweldge that He creates them (and everything else)
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we dont slaughter them for us or our family as in our glory .. no one has any glory as all glory belongs to The God ... humans slaughter animals to eat and so they could live an extra day non? we supposed to not eat animals or fruits etc?
vivons d’amour et d’eau fraiche alors lol
what is your point? lol
peace my friend
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Salam!
You need to eat for survival so eat whatever you need. Why say halal and/or haram then?
Keep on shedding the blood and corrupting the earth.
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salam
i dont say halal or haram only The God decides
and He told us what is haram (blood, swine, food dedicated to other than Him ...)
mais what are you saying? we should not eat?
im confused as to what you are actually trying to say lol
peace
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Salam!
I want to say that stop shedding the blood. Stop killing living beings.
When you eat meat, is it alive or 'already dead'?
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salam
i really do not understand what you are trying to say lol
anyways thank you for the exchange
good luck to you
peace
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Well, why not fully detailed book given to moses, had no mention of desert-dwelling djinns? Let's tell Allah that He forgot to mention something in His previous scriptures (استعذ باللہ).
Reading this I think it's worthless to even try to go further into it.
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Salam!
What's wrong?
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Salam!
You cannot change words of Allah.
Peace!