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    tutti_frutti
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    salam everyone

    may anyone please suggest a couple of translations of the Quran in either french or english that you would recommend

    thank you

    peace

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      Wakas
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      I mainly use this site
      http//quranix.org

      All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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        Iyyaka
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        Salam tutti_frutti,

        In English

        https//www.islamawakened.com/quran/1/1/default.htm
        +
        quranix.org
        +
        Mazhar (http//haqeeqat.pk/Quran.Corpus-8PartSura30-37.htm)

        In French

        • Jacques Berque (pdf free),
        • Régis Blachère (pdf free),
        • Maurice Gloton (not free),
        • droit chemin (not free)
          and mine ! (but under construction)

        Best regards,

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          tutti_frutti
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          salam wakas

          thank you very much ! very interesting site that compares the translations

          if you have any other translations (ideally in physical print) that you would recommend please do share

          salam iyyaka

          thank you as well ! im going to read through the suggestions you made

          please let us know when you are done with your translation ! i am looking forward to reading it

          are you going to make it available in physical print as well?

          peace

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            personalquran
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            Peace tutti_frutti,

            You might want to check our website https//www.personalquran.com

            There you can find many English and French translations (also other languages). You can create your personal Quran translation in our website which you continuously update as your knowledge increases/understanding improves.

            Peace,
            Personal Quran

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              tutti_frutti
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              salam personalquran

              thank you, very interesting website !

              ill definately be checking it out often

              thank you

              peace

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                good_logic
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                Peace tutti_frutti.
                Also ,if it may help, I can tell you what I did.
                Like many I was looking for some"best" translation when I started my curiosity with Qoran.. I looked at yousef Ali and marmaduke first,then went on to browse the net with similar sites like you have been given above.

                Although my prefered two ended up being Rashad Khalifa and Mohammed Asad, I decided on studying Arabic, learning as much as I can to see if I can do my own translation,because I still have issues with all the translations out there.

                I am not saying I will produce my own translation for others , I am saying I wanted to verify with the Arabic and see the Arabic context for myself and try to sort out "my issues" with other translations.
                I believe, every individual should search their own translations from what there is out there and from what they can learn themselves.
                Also GOD should not be left out of this journey. I have found GOD to be a very essential "help" to me so far. Qoran says GOD explains it to all those seeking to study and understand Qoran with sincerity.
                I am finding it an ongoing project..
                Best of luck.
                GOD bless you.
                Peace

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                  tutti_frutti
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                  salam good logic

                  thank you for your reply

                  i have been searching for good translations. i cannot find one yet that i seem veeeery content with as it seems the translators always insert their understandings into their translations

                  i am looking for a translation that translates the Quran as it is without any of the translator’s interpretation stemming from his beliefs inserted in it

                  i very strongly disbelieve in code 19 and removing 2 verses from Coran so i avoid translations that do that and that support code 19

                  my arabic is not that good but i can sometimes compare arabic text and english/french translations

                  yes indeed I will seek help from The God in finding a good translation and in understanding the Quran better

                  thank you very much

                  may God please bless you

                  peace

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                    good_logic
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                    Peace tutti_frutti.
                    Thanks.
                    You say ,quote
                    i very strongly disbelieve in code 19 and removing 2 verses from Coran so i avoid translations that do that and that support code 19

                    Nothing bothers me about reading any translation because I know that GOD is powerful and capable of making sure the full Qoran given to the prophet will be transmitted to all the generations. GOD will see to that. I do not worry about those who add or take away verses, nor do I worry about those who misinterpret verses or...
                    If the devil himself translates Qoran , I will take a good look at it.
                    My aim is to learn the do s and don ts and search for the truth even among "falsehood". The main point is for things to make sense to me especially if I clearly see evidence of the truth.
                    GOD bless you.
                    Peace.

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                      tutti_frutti
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                      salam good logic

                      i hope The God guides you

                      i personally do not agree with those who have removed verses as i believe it to be blasphemous and i believe code 19 to be nonesense

                      im looking for a translation where there is no “interpretation” but rather a literal approach to the meaning of the verses exactly as they are

                      example verse 69 of surah 7

                      hud pbuh tells his people That God increased them in “khalka” ... most translations translate the word “khalka “ as “stature” or “power” etc

                      i understand the word “khalka” to be “creation”
                      The God increased the people of hud pbuh in creation in respect to noah’s people

                      edip yuksel (i read his translation although sadly he removed the two verses of surah 9) and ali qari qurai got it right and the translation of the word “khalka” changes the whole meaning of the verse

                      by keeping the word creation (as it is the true translation i believe) i understand that noah pbuh and his people where different in creation than subsequent humans which makes me understand they were what scientists call neanderthals

                      things like that are very important to me

                      thank you

                      peace to you brother

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                        TellMeTheTruth
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                        Salam brother tutti frutti!

                        There is no such literal translation in existence. You will have to find truth yourself as Allah has gifted you everything required to gain knowledge. I have worked on a very few ayats and found out that the truth is different than those translations and tafasir/interpretations scattered all around us.

                        خلق means "to give a physical constitution (or quality)". See 351 also where addition in wings of malaikah is called یزید فی الخلق. This meaning fits all occurrences. For example 4119 and 3030.

                        Peace!

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                          tutti_frutti
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                          salam tellmethetruth

                          thank you for your reply

                          yes i believe the same rhat ther eis no true translation and those around us have interpetations from their translators that miss the point (as per my little understanding)

                          regarding “khalka” maybe you are right but i still believe it means “creation”
                          the word in arabic means “created” and i think there is no need to give its meaning intepretation

                          thank you

                          peace

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                            i understand the word “khalka” to be “creation”
                            The God increased the people of hud pbuh in creation in respect to noah’s people

                            edip yuksel (i read his translation although sadly he removed the two verses of surah 9) and ali qari qurai got it right and the translation of the word “khalka” changes the whole meaning of the verse

                            by keeping the word creation (as it is the true translation i believe) i understand that noah pbuh and his people where different in creation than subsequent humans which makes me understand they were what scientists call neanderthals

                            Peace,

                            this kind of Qur'an interpretation is called "concordism", where one tries to match / concord Qur'an interpretation with newly discovered scientific facts during the 20th CE.

                            I would advise against doing that because science is not tied to any Qur'an interpretation agenda, and whatever discovery was made in the past can be challenged by new ones in the future.
                            Especially in the case of Neanderthal vs. Homo Sapiens see e.g. https//science.sciencemag.org/content/357/6346/14.long or https//www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/09/how-neanderthals-lost-their-y-chromosome?utm_campaign=news_daily_2020-09-24&et_rid=419349887&et_cid=3496611

                            People at the time of the Qur'an messenger in the 7th CE didn't know anything about Denisovian, Neanderthal, Sapiens, and so on, and even today, paleontologists are not even sure who is the ancestor of whom, and it even seems none actually was the ancestor of the others.
                            Yet, Qur'an claims it brings "clear" signs for mankind.

                            Maybe we should wait for a couple of centuries more, in order Qur'an to be definitely "clear" once scientists will have made a definite established and stable theory, no ?

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                              TellMeTheTruth
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                              salam tellmethetruth

                              thank you for your reply

                              yes i believe the same rhat ther eis no true translation and those around us have interpetations from their translators that miss the point (as per my little understanding)

                              regarding “khalka” maybe you are right but i still believe it means “creation”
                              the word in arabic means “created” and i think there is no need to give its meaning intepretation

                              thank you

                              peace

                              Salam brother!
                              You are welcome! It is not interpreting. It is finding the exact literal meaning which could fit all occurrences. Not an easy job. You can check and cinfirm this meaning from dictionaries or prlonline.
                              Belief is something which stops the mind to procced further! For example believing in الغیب which is usually translated as unseen, means that you believe in all unseen things, events, persons, or places. Do you? If you take it as an opposite of حاضر then it would mean 'absent' while Allah is not absent. Then what is its true/literal meaning?

                              im looking for a translation where there is no “interpretation” but rather a literal approach to the meaning of the verses exactly as they are

                              Hope you succeed in your journey.
                              Peace!

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