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    reel
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    Peace reel,

    I am very gullible,

    Shut up, it isn't you, but that guy's handler is the gullible one here. Using of this community for political purpose can only be a great parody.

    if it were not for Allah's Grace & Qur'an I would be at a loss,
    I am fortunate to have learnt Arabic from an old woman (my nanny) of the south of Algeria who spoke pure Arabic of the Arab nomads,
    when I read a translation & its corresponding translation side by side my Arabic tells me straight away if it makes sense,
    waverer for hypocrite/munafiq is enough for me to disregard Sam Gerrans as an idiot,
    the term munafiq is a grave term that consigns its wearer if he/she does not repent to the deepest fiercest part of Hell even below the unbeliever & the idolater,
    translating munafiq as waverer makes it a mockery & an insult to Allah & His Qur'an.
    /bipolar rant over> tempt
    May Allah protect us from being in the rank of munafiqeen/hypocrites.

    He distorts verses intentionally. He needs to make us fascist.

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      noble
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      Shut up, it isn't you, but that guy's handler is the gullible one here. Using of this community for political purpose can only be a great parody.

      He distorts verses intentionally. He needs to make us fascist.

      Mayhaps he is jealous of Allah only believers? or maybe he is a subversive paid by Gog & Magog powers that be to further divide Believers, I also notice he never touches the subject of Gog & Magog which is currently what we are immersed into in this inverted morality era.

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        noble
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        Bros Sis tlihawa, reel,

        Respect.

        Peace.

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          tutti_frutti
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          salam thenabster

          hope all is well

          you mentioned gog & magog in your previous post

          i am curious as to what/who do you think gog & magog are

          peace

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            noble
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            Debunking Sam Gerrans "The God Protocol" -
            added to my feeds on Twitter accounts @inabster / @meNabster
            "But there is a ban on a town which We've destroyed they (townspeople) shan't return (to reclaim that town as their own); until Gog & Magog are let through (their barrier), & they swiftly spread out in every direction (replicating themselves amongst all people of the world)." Qur'an 2195-96 -

            Your "The God Protocol" no longer valid near the Last Day, we're now in the Gog & Magog era just before the Hour, where all destroyed towns after they were warned & disobeyed the Messengers are being repopulated by Gog & Magog as the above verses show, take that into account.

            Also Qur'an 1898 - Or to qualify this better, next detonation will be the first sound made by the Trumpet when all living sentient will be ordered to die & the Universe destroyed, it is now a countdown to the Last Day, a countdown to the Hour, you cannot force it by O my people, no longer valid.

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              noble
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              salam thenabster

              hope all is well

              you mentioned gog & magog in your previous post

              i am curious as to what/who do you think gog & magog are

              peace

              Today Gog & Magog are us as a group. The World has been taken over by them - "yunsilun min kuly hadab" "they slither down from all directions" prophecy has been fulfilled.

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                Today Gog & Magog are us as a group. The World has been taken over by them - "yunsilun min kuly hadab" "they slither down from all directions" prophecy has been fulfilled.

                Peace

                How can you be so sure it's us? I always thought Gog & Magog were different from the rest of humanity? Multiculturalism is a sign of the end times?

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                  noble
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                  Peace

                  How can you be so sure it's us? I always thought Gog & Magog were different from the rest of humanity? Multiculturalism is a sign of the end times?

                  Gog & Magog are humans like us, there is a posit they are a genetic mutation that appeared after Noah around 3,000 BCE, between the after flood & their appearance things went rather smooth for humanity with Satan defeated, they represented the new fitna who were temporaily subdued by Cyrus the Great (dhul qarnain) & pushed behind the Caucasus mountain through the Daryal Gorge.

                  Look up Imam Imran Hosein, he does use hadiths, but his Quranic interpretation of the verses that refer them is impeccable, I got convinced from him.

                  Today the Gog & Magog gene has been diluted through all our bloodlines.

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                    tutti_frutti
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                    salm thenabster

                    a theory i am exploring for dhul qarnayn as follows

                    i think he was perhaps solomon, and whom we refer to today as cyrus the great

                    he used iron to close off gog and magog ... and we know that iron was maxe pliable to david which ushered the iton age ... so perhaps we can infer that dhul qarnayn existed during iron age or after (unless iron was used before and to david it was made pliable only as armor)

                    from verse 2181 as below perhaps we can infer that solomon was not in the blessed land (which i believe is misr) ... so perhaps he was in persia?

                    “and to solomon the wind, blowing forcefully, proceeding by his command toward the land which We had blessed. and We are ever, of all things, Knowing” (2281)

                    also, given he asked the people to bring him iron ... perhaps the people that asked for help against gog and magog exist in a place where natural iron is found (which includes iran when one googles map of iron in the world)

                    we also know the directions dhul qarnayn was travelling when taking into consideration where the sun sets and pwrhaos we could also infer dhul qarnayn was at some point in a hot spring (i googled hot natural springs in iran)

                    ...

                    i do not unserstand what you mean by gog and magog are us

                    ... i think gog and magog are simply humans (perhaps giant race? gogmagog mentioned in albion myth as a giant slained) who are somewhere on earth and will be permitted to come out of the land they are in when the end of times comes ... and in my opinion they have definately not intermingled with our predecessors aa you me tion we have their dikhted dna ... but who they are ... no idea

                    peace

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                      noble
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                      tutti_frutti
                      Salam
                      I beg to differ, strongly & absolutely disagree with all you said.
                      No need to argue.
                      You can start a thread on Gog & Magog & whatever theory you are exploring.
                      Salam.

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                        reel
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                        Mayhaps he is jealous of Allah only believers? or maybe he is a subversive paid by Gog & Magog powers that be to further divide Believers, I also notice he never touches the subject of Gog & Magog which is currently what we are immersed into in this inverted morality era.

                        Jealousy is unlikely since it is clear he is clueless on what we truly believe. But they do look to collect as many pawns as possible for politcal purpose. His website does give a bit about his agenda. Its the same thing that collapsed the golden age of Islam and now is in action across Europe and the US via Russia backed far right groups. I "honestly" feel bad for Putin here. We are a terrible waste of time for an agenda like that.

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                          noble
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                          Sister reel, Salam
                          I used to support VV Putin, even naively thinking & wanting to believe he is the new Cyrus the Great, coming as Peacemaker to restore the World, sadly his behaviour in Donbas betraying his own Russian brothers, & his supporting of extremists groups, his dealing with Mohamed bin Salman ibn Saud, his lack of interest in helping the Palestinians, his letting Gaddafi being massacred by NATO, etc.
                          VV Putin is an instrument of Satan like Donald Trump & Joe Biden are, they all are indeed Gog & Magog, even though they fight among themselves, they are guided by Satan.
                          Maybe they even pretend to fight one another in fact.
                          Salam
                          Nabil

                          PS I have no real interest in Sam Gerrans, he is like Hollywood entertainment to me, watch a movie as opium, not a serious source of guidance, but it is interesting to hear his views,
                          I just wish we had an eloquent podcaster making the point & giving rationales about the validity of rejecting Hadiths & explaining Qur'an to non Arabic interested people.

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                            My latest comment on @SamGerrans @Youtube channel where he criticises cults - https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwWYt3PL8vo&feature=push-sd&attr_tag=Jm4zz9qRy17EloCT%3A6

                            You are a cult of sorts, you have solid followers who will defend you tooth & nail, you also have your own sets of hadiths, you are a modern Bukhari, Muslim, Tirmidhi or Abu Dawud, interpreting the Qur'an with your supposedly accurate hermeneutics heuristics method, translating munafiq as waverer, salat as duty & zakat as purity,
                            in other words you are a fraud Sam.
                            I ain't following any cults, I tried since I was 13 & given an Arabic copy of the Qur'an by my father to understand Qur'an from my Arabic native speaking tongue, Arabic nomad one as close as can be to Arabic of Qur'an,
                            I can spot mistakes in translations to English & French (I am also French native speaker), you are stubborn, disregard criticism, your podcasts are entertainment to me like Hollywood movies, nothing more,
                            you are a fitnah leading astray your followers, have you no shame, no fear of Allah?

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                              I used to like Putin also. But now no more. I am glad he supported Donny, the cursed guy. A little bit more and Putin is all out in hell! This is not superstition. Whatever Donny touches dies. Biden is not evil. He probably wouldn't have won. But alot would have gone wrong in the world under donny's watch. Apparently, he was only a few steps away from starting wars by mistake. They also had to redesign the use of nuclear football and eventually it was moved from Trump to Pence. America is now going towards a diff direction. Donny showed everyone where things were going wrong.

                              My latest comment on @SamGerrans @Youtube channel where he criticises cults - https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwWYt3PL8vo&feature=push-sd&attr_tag=Jm4zz9qRy17EloCT%3A6

                              You are a cult of sorts, you have solid followers who will defend you tooth & nail, you also have your own sets of hadiths, you are a modern Bukhari, Muslim, Tirmidhi or Abu Dawud, interpreting the Qur'an with your supposedly accurate hermeneutics heuristics method, translating munafiq as waverer, salat as duty & zakat as purity,
                              in other words you are a fraud Sam.
                              I ain't following any cults, I tried since I was 13 & given an Arabic copy of the Qur'an by my father to understand Qur'an from my Arabic native speaking tongue, Arabic nomad one as close as can be to Arabic of Qur'an,
                              I can spot mistakes in translations to English & French (I am also French native speaker), you are stubborn, disregard criticism, your podcasts are entertainment to me like Hollywood movies, nothing more,
                              you are a fitnah leading astray your followers, have you no shame, no fear of Allah?

                              Additionally, it is best for Sam to charter new waters. There is nothing to gain from this community since it is very much free of herd mentality.

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                                noble
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                                Peace Sister reel,
                                Sam Gerrans is an odd case, I still benefitted from listening to his podcasts as even when one disagrees with a podcaster, one can look deeper into issues & he did induce me to evaluate some matters,

                                Allah says those who listen & take what is best from what they hear, his perspective is from his own culture which is Christian & White English,
                                I also even accused him as a reaction to one of his podcasts of being a white supremacist LOL!...

                                I also benefitted from listening to lectures by Imran Hosein about Gog & Magog despite him using & believing in the validity of Hadiths as valid sources of guidance.

                                There was also a book from an unknown author which informed me further about Gog & Magog - from my @Twitter feeds https//twitter.com/meNabster/status/883478963854729216
                                https//twitter.com/inabster/status/884139670547951617
                                https//twitter.com/inabster/status/884137318747176961
                                https//twitter.com/inabster/status/878908687041138688

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