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    I am constantly adding the developments in the claims about Marduk as a new entry on the page; It seems that they planned to coincide with the catastrophes of the Nibiru Planetary System convergence, the Coronavirus/vaccines, and perhaps even the 3rd World War

    http//vekilsizmeclis.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=5628

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      I know a worse day for all humans is coming. Actually I am certain about it. Judgement day.
      But it should not worry us. What is the worse that can happen to us? We should be expecting it.
      Similarly whatever is going to happen in the future should not worry us if we trust in GOD, plan our life on the straight path and carry on doing our best daily.

      If we die, and that happens regardless, we should be happy to finally meet our Lord. Without a doubt our journey leads to that important meeting with our Lord.
      May our journey end in success GOD willing.
      Looking forward to it.
      GOD bless you all.
      Peace.

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        Peace

        If someone has a bad day, it's because they deserve to have a bad day. Nobody cares about goodness as much as God. We are the ones who betray God and goodness. So we deserve to suffer hardship. Or do we prefer for evil to be treated like its good?

        Either we want evil to oppress good or bring down good, or we don't. If don't, then we have nothing to worry or grieve about. When we face our difficult day, we will see that it was deserved, and we will be happy to see good (God's victory) prevail. Nobody good wants the antagonist to win in a movie. God is the true protagonist in terms of goodness. Who is allied to him, depends on who sincerely chooses to be. The greater the sincerity to God, the greater the being.

        Quran 231....if you are sincere

        Mark 1018 And Jesus said to him, “Why do you call me Good? No one is Good except God alone.

        If your standards were absolute/perfect, then only a perfect triangle would qualify as being triangular. An imperfect triangle resembles a perfect triangle (either weakly or strongly).

        If your standards were absolute/perfect, then only God (the perfect being) would qualify as being good.

        Genesis 126 Then God said, “Let Us make man/adam in Our image/resemblance, after Our likeness...

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          Peace ,

          Thank you for your message nimnimak_11.

          I add this, as Bassim Moraly says so well, the Koran is a message for the living in every era and not for the dead. It is important to read it with our
          with the eyes of the living today for a better understanding.

          The purpose of our life is to be worthy of our mission as vice manager khalifa on earth, to live in harmony with the universal system of Allah as it is exhibited in the universe / the book of the universe / kitab manshoor.

          To meditate and study the reading alquran / kitab mastoor and the creation, the universal system of Allah / kitab manshoor.

          do good deeds, purify ourselves of satanic thoughts that arise in our imagination.

          3030 So set your being to the system exclusively / haneefan. It is the inclination that Allah has nurtured the people on. There is no changing in the creation of Allah. Such is the pure system, but most of the people do not know.

          May allah increase our science.

          Peace

          If someone has a bad day, it's because they deserve to have a bad day. Nobody cares about goodness as much as God. We are the ones who betray God and goodness. So we deserve to suffer hardship. Or do we prefer for evil to be treated like its good?

          Either we want evil to oppress good or bring down good, or we don't. If don't, then we have nothing to worry or grieve about. When we face our difficult day, we will see that it was deserved, and we will be happy to see good (God's victory) prevail. Nobody good wants the antagonist to win in a movie. God is the true protagonist in terms of goodness. Who is allied to him, depends on who sincerely chooses to be. The greater the sincerity to God, the greater the being.

          Quran 231....if you are sincere

          Mark 1018 And Jesus said to him, “Why do you call me Good? No one is Good except God alone.

          If your standards were absolute/perfect, then only a perfect triangle would qualify as being triangular. An imperfect triangle resembles a perfect triangle (either weakly or strongly).

          If your standards were absolute/perfect, then only God (the perfect being) would qualify as being good.

          Genesis 126 Then God said, “Let Us make man/adam in Our image/resemblance, after Our likeness...

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            Drop the pagan hadith books please (Bible and others).

            HOLY QURAN

            5122 In the heaven is your provision, and what you are promised. (Paradise and hell are both ready and outside the world, in the sky)

            The prophets living in Paradise will be summoned to the court as witnesses on the Day of Judgment

            7711 And when the messengers are gathered.

            heaven is not paradise. Heaven =universe
            Heavens = universes
            The Qur'an offers a multi-universe model.
            But it is not infinite.
            Seven universes, for example.
            Other universes have planets too.
            65.12 Allah is the one who created seven Heavens and from Earth like them (of corresponding type); command descends among them so that you may know that Allah is capable of anything and that Allah knows everything.
            Example "Floor of Lord" (Indallah) = afterlife universe
            Except for the Hereafter universe, all the other universes will end with big crunch.
            21104 On the day when We roll up the heavens like a scroll of books is rolled up. As We initiated the first creation, so shall We return it. It is a promise of Ours that We will do this.
            3967 They have not given God His true worth; and the whole earth is within His fist on the day of resurrection, and the heavens will be folded in His right hand. Be He glorified; He is much too high above what they set up.

            Quran A man came running from the farthest part of the city, saying "O my people, follow the messengers. Follow those who do not ask you for any wage, and are guided. Why should I not serve the One who initiated me, and to Him is your ultimate return? Shall I take gods besides Him? If the Gracious intends any harm for me, their intercession cannot help me in the least, nor can they save me. Then I would be clearly astray. I have acknowledged your Lord, so listen to me! It was said, "Enter Paradise." He said "Oh, how I wish my people only knew of what my Lord has forgiven me, and made me of the honored ones."We did not send down upon his people after him soldiers from the sky; for there was no need to send them down. For all it took was one scream, whereupon they were stilled. (3620-29)

            1956 And recall in the Book, Enoch; he was a man of truth, a prophet.
            1957 And We raised him to a high place.

            355 For God said "O Jesus, I will terminate your life, and raise you to Me, and cleanse you of those who have rejected, and make those who have followed you above those who have rejected until the Day of Resurrection. Then to Me is your return, all of you,so I will judge between you in what it was that you disputed."

            Prophets and very good peoples in Paradise now. They were created in Paradise (floor of Lord/other universe) without waiting for the Hour.

            But, Other people will wait for the Resurrection for re-creation.

            The Qur'an says that a group of exception people are already living in Paradise.

            And it even tells us that some of them are talking about the world's inhabitants. They say "they(World peoples) will come to us later". However, it is difficult to see them for you because the English translations of the Qur'an do not provide complete sentences.
            Likewise, the verses of the Lord's Floor are also mentioned, but you cannot see it again in English translations. Because, unfortunately, those under the influence of traditional interpretation make translations in their own understanding.

            Yes, according to the Qur'an there are already people living in Paradise.
            And that's where Christians believe that Jesus is in paradise.

            In the false Gospels, the event was described incorrectly, so you could not see the painting until today.
            Jesus and all other messengers/ prophets live in paradise now.

            3169 Do not count that those who are killed in the sake of God are dead. No, they are alive at their Lord receiving provisions.
            3170 Happy with what God has granted them from His grace, and they rejoice in those who have yet to follow after them. There is no fear upon them nor do they grieve.
            517 Ingrates indeed are those who have said, "God is the Messiah the son of Mary." Say, "Who has any power against God if He had wanted to destroy the Messiah son of Mary, and his mother, and all who are on earth!" To God is the sovereignty of heavens and earth and all that is in-between; He creates what He pleases. God is capable of all things. (Jesus and his mother living in other universe, Like other prophets...)

            848 He will then receive an easy reckoning.
            849 He will return to his family in joy! (The person who is called from Paradise to the day of judgment will return to Paradise again with joy)

            5313 Indeed, he saw him in another descent.
            5314 At the ultimate point.
            5315 Next to the eternal Paradise.
            (Even when the prophet Muhammad lived in the world, he was taken to visit the universe of the Hereafter/ Floor of Lord)

            567 You will be in three groupings.
            568 So those on the right; who will be from those on the right?
            569 Those on the left; who will be from those on the left?
            5610 And those foremost, who will be from those foremost?
            (8th verse about peple who after the apocalyptic blessing will enter the paradise, 9th verse about who will enter hell, and the 10th verse talking about the already pioneering group living in Paradise. Thus, the three classes mentioned in verse 7 are completed)

            1993 When all there is in the heavens and the earth will but come to the Gracious as servants.

            1956 Recall in the book Enoch; he was truthful, a prophet.
            1957 We raised him to a high place.
            (Enoch is living in Paradise now)

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              Peace

              You say, quote

              "...(Paradise and hell are both ready and outside the world, in the sky)"

              Where do you get that hell is ready from? Do you have verse/s from Qoran to confirm this?
              GOD bless you.
              Peace.

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                Peace

                You say, quote

                "...(Paradise and hell are both ready and outside the world, in the sky)"

                Where do you get that hell is ready from? Do you have verse/s from Qoran to confirm this?
                GOD bless you.
                Peace.

                Hi my friend,

                I am giving a machine translation of my Turkish writing.

                https//translate.google.com/translate?sl=tr&tl=en&u=http//www.diniyazilar.com/2016/06/goklerevrenler/

                Yours sincerely
                Peace

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                  Still I do not see a single verse saying that hell is ready now. I see many with hell brought on judgement day.
                  Who is in hell now then?
                  GOD bless you.
                  Peace.

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                    Just to clarify what I said ,here are the verses
                    6915-17
                    "That is the day when the inevitable event will come to pass.
                    فَيَومَئِذٍ وَقَعَتِ الواقِعَةُ
                    The heaven will crack, and fall apart.
                    وَانشَقَّتِ السَّماءُ فَهِىَ يَومَئِذٍ واهِيَةٌ
                    The angels will be all around, and Your Lord's dominion will then encompass eight (universes).*
                    وَالمَلَكُ عَلىٰ أَرجائِها وَيَحمِلُ عَرشَ رَبِّكَ فَوقَهُم يَومَئِذٍ ثَمٰنِيَ
                    8921-23
                    "Indeed, when the earth is crushed, utterly crushed.
                    كَلّا إِذا دُكَّتِ الأَرضُ دَكًّا دَكًّا
                    And your Lord comes, together with the angels in row after row.
                    وَجاءَ رَبُّكَ وَالمَلَكُ صَفًّا صَفًّا
                    On that day, Gehenna will be brought forth. On that day, the human being will remember - but what a remembrance - it will be too late.
                    وَجِا۟ىءَ يَومَئِذٍ بِجَهَنَّمَ يَومَئِذٍ يَتَذَكَّرُ الإِنسٰنُ وَأَنّىٰ لَهُ الذِّكرىٰ

                    A new eight universe- Hell- created at the end of this life. i.e not ready now brother!
                    GOD bless you.
                    Peace.

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                      Nobody needs to be in hell right now. But There are some special people living in Paradise now.

                      Hell seems to exist as an entity now.

                      The Lord's Floor (Indallah) Name of the Hereafter Universe.

                      In the verse you gave, it is told that the resurrected people will encounter hell on the Day of Judgment. It is not told that Hell was created at that time.

                      5122 In the heaven is your provision, and what you are promised.

                      Heaven is universe and it has got hell and paradise.

                      7312 We have with Us chains and a raging fire.

                      And look at my English article

                      http//emre1974tr.blogspot.com/2011/07/nobody-has-got-ghost-according-to-quran.html

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                        Nobody needs to be in hell right now. But There are some special people living in Paradise now.

                        Hell seems to exist as an entity now.

                        The Lord's Floor (Indallah) Name of the Hereafter Universe.

                        In the verse you gave, it is told that the resurrected people will encounter hell on the Day of Judgment. It is not told that Hell was created at that time.

                        5122 In the heaven is your provision, and what you are promised.

                        Heaven is universe and it has got hell and paradise.

                        7312 We have with Us chains and a raging fire.

                        And look at my English article

                        http//emre1974tr.blogspot.com/2011/07/nobody-has-got-ghost-according-to-quran.html

                        What about the below authentic hadith of bukhari brother.... It clearly says Mohamed has witnessed poor women were in hell more than men for hilarious reason... Point is hell is active and people living and women more... So... Hell is not yet created according to Quran that's manifest within Quran and point to debate in detail...

                        If anyone says hell is already created and people living in it literally then can welcome this haditg and many more hadith concocted unfortunately in the name of innocent Prophet Muhammad...

                        As simple as that... God will recreate everything again in better shape... That's his promos... And hell is not far for others to ask for some water...

                        https//i.postimg.cc/TwxLpMWK/IMG-20210827-155823.jpg

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                          Drop the pagan hadith books please (Bible and others).

                          Peace Emre

                          I've not read all of the Bible, but I think I am good at recognising products of divine inspiration. The Bible (that which I have read of it so far) is as clearly a product of divine inspiration to me as the Quran is. But I do think the Quran is more gentle. Almost as if the wrath God had lessened on humanity by Muhammad's time.

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                            Peace Emre_1974tr
                            Without verses clearly indicating that hell exists now, this is your assumption,quote.

                            "Hell seems to exist as an entity now."

                            Why would hell exist now if it is not operational?
                            Qoran clearly states in the above verses I gave you that hell will exist and be operational on the day of judgement.

                            As for what is with GOD, well everything is with GOD,the past, present and future.What He created, what He is creating and what He will create.
                            GOD bless you.
                            Peace.

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                              Peace Emre

                              I've not read all of the Bible, but I think I am good at recognising products of divine inspiration. The Bible (that which I have read of it so far) is as clearly a product of divine inspiration to me as the Quran is. But I do think the Quran is more gentle. Almost as if the wrath God had lessened on humanity by Muhammad's time.

                              Hi friend;

                              False Bible is pagan hadith book

                              https//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9609978.0

                              But of course, extraordinarily accurate and beautiful information can also be found in hadith books.

                              Peace

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                                Peace Emre_1974tr
                                Without verses clearly indicating that hell exists now, this is your assumption,quote.

                                "Hell seems to exist as an entity now."

                                Why would hell exist now if it is not operational?
                                Qoran clearly states in the above verses I gave you that hell will exist and be operational on the day of judgement.

                                As for what is with GOD, well everything is with GOD,the past, present and future.What He created, what He is creating and what He will create.
                                GOD bless you.
                                Peace.

                                Peace friend;

                                The verses describe the existence of Hell and I give examples. You are not considering my article in its entirety.

                                The verse you gave describes people's encounter with Hell on the Day of Judgment. He never says that hell is being created at that moment. Hell already existed and is approaching in the apocalypse. Just like Paradise. The Universe of the Hereafter, that is, the Floor of the Lord (Indallah) exists right now.The verses describing the present tense really describe the present tense.

                                There may be many reasons why hell has already been created.Currently, there are many non-living planets in our universe (besides many living planets...). But also, as I showed in my article, some people like Pharaoh may already be punished in hell.

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                                  As simple as that... God will recreate everything again in better shape... That's his promos... And hell is not far for others to ask for some water...

                                  The Universe of the Hereafter has already been created in the most beautiful way. It is as old as our universe. The re-creation mentioned in the verses is persons re-creation in this Hereafter Universe. Paradise and hell already exist.

                                  Peace

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                                    The Universe of the Hereafter has already been created in the most beautiful way. It is as old as our universe. The re-creation mentioned in the verses is persons re-creation in this Hereafter Universe. Paradise and hell already exist.

                                    Peace

                                    Peace...

                                    Probably Yes.. God has already created Janna and Jahanna... Even probably the Janna adam and rest lived is the same Janna which is the place of shelter for all believers...

                                    But God didnt create everything in vain... For me.. 400 times bigger sun than earth and 2000 times bigger than sun some stars... It doesn't make sense... And this moving nonsensical approach of science never matches with Quran.. That's different topic.. For example 3541 "Indeed, Allah holds/prevents the heavens/skies(samawathi) and the Earth, in case they(both) move. And if they(Earth and Heavens) move, no one could hold/prevent them after Him. Indeed, He is Forbearing and Forgiving." .... How come one deny such verses of Quran and go for options of moving universes.. Lol.. Whatever..

                                    Hell... Yeah no one can be in hell that's very obvious within Quran... It all will happen after judgement... But in Janna people do live... That's incontrovertible...

                                    But verses like 21104 ... It seems God promise to repeat like his first creation.. His first creation was Earth and heavens... Who knows may be He will create another adter everything is settled...

                                    Yeah... Janna it's width is the width of Heavens and Earth... Whatever you understand about it.. I don't know... But God's verses are very literal... In 3133 .. It says it is prepared (uiddath) .. So perhaps.. It is already there... If God says He has prepared in clear verses then it can be the truth.. I leave it to God to guide me and all...

                                    Seven samawathi can never be 7 universe... rotfl
                                    When God said sama He means even the sky which brings water... Sama the birds fly.. Sama.. In the midst sun and moon float.. Sama in which all stars are placed.. Sama where we don't see but malaika live.. All these are not universe...
                                    Width of Janna (Garden) equal to seven universes (according to science) just needless.. And meaningless...
                                    Decorations God says stars... But 2000 times bigger than earth to decorate Earth.. Sheer myth.. rotfl

                                    May God guide the believers regarding His creations truth.. Especially Earth and heavens (skies)

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                                      This is your assumption brother,quote

                                      "There may be many reasons why hell has already been created.Currently, there are many non-living planets in our universe (besides many living planets...). But also, as I showed in my article, some people like Pharaoh may already be punished in hell."

                                      GOD has set up a resurrection /judgement day yet o come for all of us including Pharaoh.
                                      Nowhere in Qoran does it say that anyone is in hell now, they are waiting judgement. Nor that hell has been created now.

                                      Just state the verses you have based your view on please I do not find any on your article or Qoran.
                                      GOD bless you.
                                      Peace.

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                                        This is your assumption brother,quote

                                        "There may be many reasons why hell has already been created.Currently, there are many non-living planets in our universe (besides many living planets...). But also, as I showed in my article, some people like Pharaoh may already be punished in hell."

                                        GOD has set up a resurrection /judgement day yet o come for all of us including Pharaoh.
                                        Nowhere in Qoran does it say that anyone is in hell now, they are waiting judgement. Nor that hell has been created now.

                                        Just state the verses you have based your view on please I do not find any on your article or Qoran.
                                        GOD bless you.
                                        Peace.

                                        Peace...

                                        What about verses like 364 ...
                                        There are so many verses using uiddath plus Jaheem... Does that mean God has prepared the blaze or Jaheem...

                                        But there is no doubt Quran never says that there is anyone in Jahanna.. Coz even King Pharaoh in the day of judgement he will lead his people to hell.. So it is literal verse.. No need to create ambiguity in that...

                                        But perhaps janna and Jahanna is around.... But flr me on this very earth...

                                        Coz all what God created is Earth and heavens and whatever between both of them..

                                        One should clearly perceive the glaring verses that says janna and Jahanna will last as long as the Earth and heavens bear it 11107... So.. These two profound verses indicate that Janna that believers gonna live and Jahanna that disbelievers or unfortunate ones gonna abide is on this very earth...
                                        But we all know God has promised to put an end to how it looks on the day it all ends.. Even everything of heavens are subject to destruction... It seems recreation is mandatory...

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                                          This is your assumption brother,quote

                                          "There may be many reasons why hell has already been created.Currently, there are many non-living planets in our universe (besides many living planets...). But also, as I showed in my article, some people like Pharaoh may already be punished in hell."

                                          GOD has set up a resurrection /judgement day yet o come for all of us including Pharaoh.
                                          Nowhere in Qoran does it say that anyone is in hell now, they are waiting judgement. Nor that hell has been created now.

                                          Just state the verses you have based your view on please I do not find any on your article or Qoran.
                                          GOD bless you.
                                          Peace.

                                          4045-46 The English translation of the verses is problematic. In these verses, it is written that Pharaoh was presented to the fire day and night, but on the Day of Judgment, he will be presented to real torment.

                                          I said that this verse might be a sign that Pharaoh is burning in hell right now. But I'm not claiming there's anyone in hell right definite now.

                                          Peace

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