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    LetTheTruthBeTold
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    I am confused on why the son of Adam did not defend himself against his brother's intent to kill, when throughout the Quran The God tells us to fight/defend those who fight against you.

    ...If you extend your hand towards me to kill me, I will not extend my hand to you to kill you for I fear Allah, the Lord of the Universe. I want you to leave with the sin of killing me and with your own sin then you will be among the people of the Fire. This is the reward of the unjust. His soul made him kill his brother. So he killed him and became one of the losers. S5V27-30

    Is it more righteous to not reciprocate like the son of Adam did? Or am I missing something?

    Peace

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      Peace

      Note that the murdered son's offering was accepted. According to the Bible, the murdered son is called Abel. The murdering son is called Cain. Cain was the older one.

      To my understanding, after your offering is accepted (as in you have been complete and true in your sacrifice to God to be worthy of heaven), your fight against evil as a human is over. What's interesting is Abel saying "I want you to have my sin as well as your sin...". Maybe Abel was the equivalent of a messenger to his brother. The Children of Israel are described as killing the prophets and messengers sent to them.

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        I am confused on why the son of Adam did not defend himself against his brother's intent to kill, when throughout the Quran The God tells us to fight/defend those who fight against you.

        ...If you extend your hand towards me to kill me, I will not extend my hand to you to kill you for I fear Allah, the Lord of the Universe. I want you to leave with the sin of killing me and with your own sin then you will be among the people of the Fire. This is the reward of the unjust. His soul made him kill his brother. So he killed him and became one of the losers. S5V27-30

        Is it more righteous to not reciprocate like the son of Adam did? Or am I missing something?

        Peace

        Peace LTTBT

        Be a believer or none believing person.. Their quotes are not necessarily the command of Allah even though they are in Quran as a complete verse.. ... We are not to follow every verse of Quran.. We are to believe in all of them and to adhere what is asked to be followed.. There are lessons in Quran as well orders.. We are not ordered to destroy all deities like Ibrahim did.. Ibrahim did doesn't mean we should do coz it is in Quran.. They are lessons not command of God.. Do follow command of God if it applies to all believers..

        It was the sole decision of one of the sons of Adam.. He told his brother what He wanted to say.. He may be loving his brother and cannot do something to the extent of killing even in self defence... It can happen to any kind hearted person.. Even if such a thing happen in my life I can't think of killing my own sibling even though they want to kill me for a silly reason out of jealousy ... Coz once I have killed own sibling for self defence the pain will only remain with me... But it is different killing an another person who came against you and you would try to protect yourself.. And in that case anything could happen.. Even you overcome and kill the one who attacked you you won't bother much coz you can be satisfied after sometime.. But not in case of the one you love.. Suppose if one's father try to kill his son while son loves him more than anyone, can son kill father for self defence.. Such approach is tough with love..
        So it was comprehensive decision of Adam's son and not what God ordered or prefer necessarily..
        Furthermore.. We have no idea how he murdered his brother.. Was there any chance for defence? Though he told I won't attack you, he would have defended spontaneously if it was face to face.. But who knows.. It could be a cowardly killing without knowledge to his brother.. For example.. Poisoning, attack from rear.. Etc etc..

        God gives as law what is best for human being though we like it or not.. Can do it or not.. But Allah knows what suits best for human heart as law..
        Self defence for the sake of others is best.. Self defence for the sake of self is personal choice like Adam's son..

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