Believer in heart but Gay and not willing to change.

jkhan

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Salam everyone...

I met a quite strange person in this forum...
For me he is a quality person... Believes in God.. Does righteous good deeds performs even Salat making even charities.. And much willing to do charity..

But not willing to change being a gay.. He says he is born gay.. He has had gay sex before... But from certain period of time he has stopped and promises that he will never do again.. But he himself still willing to be called a gay and never wants to marry a girl a cheat her..
Half I don't understand... I dont know whether he is okay I have created a topic here.. But no one knows who he is... So no harm...

All I want is give him some advice or your opinion or suggestions within Quran...
Can he continue as gay and hope the salvation... Or he has to change and reform be a a true believer like messengers were..

What is gay brothers? Is it really something which cannot be defined.. He was furious with me and says noone can define what gay is and you can't help me... I feel for this fellow coz I am afraid whether God would reject his faith... I don't know what Gof decides but I fear for this fellow so let me hear some truth on this..

I hope he is reading... Let him read... Perhaps he opens his eyes or perhaps he get angry with all.. Or perhaps it is his destiny...
I don't know.. Are gays not believers while they truly believe in God..
Is it something that a person cannot change.. Why he claim he cannot change?
I have no knowledge on this..
I am sure he is reading.. He is an active member here.. So share your thoughts.. Let him ponder.. I don't want him to end up as disbeliever.. God knows best..
Does Quran really have answers to this?

good_logic

Peace jkhan

God has not put limits on our feelings /thoughts/. GOD has sent us guidance for our actions/deeds.
The feelings of people are one thing, our actions deeds are something else .The deeds of exhibition of privacy is something else, and the people's privacy something else...etc

It is up to every person in his or her circumstances to reflect or consider thoroughly how to follow GOD s guidance and seek help on their private relationship with GOD from HIM in order to deal with the conflicts and difficulties of his or her own destiny, it is his or her task as a human being that must return to God, but for that there are things which the Qur'an does not say it is prohibited or it is not prohibited. GOD knows we don't.

WE ARE TO TREET EVERY PEACEFUL HUMAN WITH DIGNITY AND ESPECT. GOD IS THE JUDGE..

It is each person that decides, and it is up to each person to seek the guidance with sincerity, very abundant guidance found in Qoran.
GOD will guide the sincere in the right path.
GOD bless you.
Peace.

jkhan

Peace jkhan

God has not put limits on our feelings /thoughts/. GOD has sent us guidance for our actions/deeds.
The feelings of people are one thing, our actions deeds are something else .The deeds of exhibition of privacy is something else, and the people's privacy something else...etc

It is up to every person in his or her circumstances to reflect or consider thoroughly how to follow GOD s guidance and seek help on their private relationship with GOD from HIM in order to deal with the conflicts and difficulties of his or her own destiny, it is his or her task as a human being that must return to God, but for that there are things which the Qur'an does not say it is prohibited or it is not prohibited. GOD knows we don't.

WE ARE TO TREET EVERY PEACEFUL HUMAN WITH DIGNITY AND ESPECT. GOD IS THE JUDGE..

It is each person that decides, and it is up to each person to seek the guidance with sincerity, very abundant guidance found in Qoran.
GOD will guide the sincere in the right path.
GOD bless you.
Peace.

Peace big brother..

Thank you.. But such advices I gave him over whatsapp... He is not satisfied..
He insist he can't change and it is impossible... I don't understand it... He is furious on me claiming I have no knowledge what gay is.. He wants to shut my mouth coz he says no one can him..

What Quran says on it... Can one be gay (not practicing) but claiming to be gay and still be a believer according to Quran verses.. Does that mean he follows Quran while he is gay?

I'd there any such person in this forum who is a gay or lesbians (but not active) but still honestly believe in God and practice God's law and find peace in life.. Would you please share your thoughts...

Or am I just worry too much while God has accepted him as believer.. Or we think and I think we have to be normal person to believe in God...
Why one should claim he is Gay if he is not practicing? Why he keeps away from marrying a girl just saying he is a gay and no any other reason...

Furthet he disclosed that he is not born with any sexual defects either.. Perfectly alright.. So what is gay my fellow believers? I gave my view it is may addiction and he is not able to get rid of it.. Biy he is not even accepting it..

If one is practicing we can bring verses to support it.. Fine.. It obvious father and son cannot have sex.. So it is part of fahisha.. But what about who claim they are gay but not practicing and still follow Quran..

I don't know... He got angry with me.. I blocked him hypno

good_logic

Peace jkhan.

It may be our test in some situation if we incorrectly assume what someone needs instead of imploring God for His guidance for us to do the right thing

Of course, reminders are good, in fact, God encourages in the Quran (5155) And remind, for the reminder benefits the believers. But we need to remind in the best possible manner.
GOD is always there for anyone who seeks HIM

652 ... Anyone who reverences GOD, He will create an exit for him.

654 ... Anyone who reverences GOD, He makes everything easy for him.

655 ... Anyone who reverences GOD, He remits his sins, and rewards him generously.

God says each one of us will be tested. He created each of us unique. Thus, our tests are also designed uniquely for our souls.

So, we should remember we may not know the reasons for anybody else’s test and what’s going on in their lives. Rather than assuming the worst, we should assume the best as we offer our support, compassion and love as we would to a brother or sister in our family.

God is the best supporter (227. God never burdens any soul beyond its ability/means (2362). And while God does not need us to do anything sometimes, I feel it is in my own soul’s interest to help someone if God gives me the opportunity to (9012-17). With God’s help,but the love and care we show towards a friend will make them feel that they indeed have a good friend whom they can rely on.

Tell My servants to treat each other in the best possible manner, for the devil will always try to drive a wedge among them. Surely, the devil is man’s most ardent enemy.

Not equal is the good response and the bad response. You shall resort to the nicest possible response. Thus, even the one who used to be your enemy, may become your best friend.

All those who follow God’s commandments in 262 and 569 are Muslims to HIM.
GOD bless you.
Peace.

jkhan