The Universe

Emre_1974tr

Peace everyone...

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You're the one living in the fantasy world, jkhan. I hope one day you will be freed from the influence of hadiths and its source, the Bible, and you will see the multi-universe and multi-planet and the living things that live there, which the Qur'an clearly states.

Peace

jkhan

You're the one living in the fantasy world, jkhan. I hope one day you will be freed from the influence of hadiths and its source, the Bible, and you will see the multi-universe and multi-planet and the living things that live there, which the Qur'an clearly states.

Peace

oh.. please don't include me into your fantasy world... i am living in the real world which we all perceive and which we all live (you and me)...
Fantasy world is that of science fiction which has no reality ... no real videos no real picture... all just CGIs..
can't they even keep a camara to any of the rocket from the beginning to space station?
just leave them..
let's think within quran.. If Samawathi is Universe then what is universe in reality ? Does that include Earth or not? if Yes.. Did God created seven universes and similar number of earths? come on ... let's make some sense out of Quran verses

i would like all of you read this link which indicates basic seven reasons why Earth is sphere..

http//crosstalk.cell.com/blog/seven-ways-to-prove-earth-is-round

are these really convincing proofs for someone to accept? the one who has immense knowledge about nature would debunk all seven questions easily.... look at no. 01 question.. oh shame..

REQUEST is there anyone who is good at in drawing, if so would you please draw me a picture of the spherical earth... oops... but with conditions...
1.. remove all curved atmosphere which is almost 10000kms from the surface of the earth
2.... remove all seawater from earth..

now show me the real picture of the earth so that we can see the curvature from that picture...oh rubbish.. based on that we can deduce answers to their number 01 question in the link..

Emre_1974tr

oh.. please don't include me into your fantasy world... i am living in the real world which we all perceive and which we all live (you and me)...
Fantasy world is that of science fiction which has no reality ... no real videos no real picture... all just CGIs..
can't they even keep a camara to any of the rocket from the beginning to space station?
just leave them..
let's think within quran.. If Samawathi is Universe then what is universe in reality ? Does that include Earth or not? if Yes.. Did God created seven universes and similar number of earths? come on ... let's make some sense out of Quran verses

i would like all of you read this link which indicates basic seven reasons why Earth is sphere..

http//crosstalk.cell.com/blog/seven-ways-to-prove-earth-is-round

are these really convincing proofs for someone to accept? the one who has immense knowledge about nature would debunk all seven questions easily.... look at no. 01 question.. oh shame..

Your situation is more critical than I thought, my friend, I'm sorry for you.

In the meantime, they can use cgi images to hide the size of our planet, they can also do fake spacewalks for other interests.

But the world is a sphere. You're the one living in the fantasy world, jkhan. I hope one day you will be freed from the influence of hadiths and its source, the Bible, and you will see the multi-universe and multi-planet and the living things that live there, which the Qur'an clearly states.

Peace

jkhan

Your situation is more critical than I thought, my friend, I'm sorry for you.

In the meantime, they can use cgi images to hide the size of our planet, they can also do fake spacewalks for other interests.

But the world is a sphere. You're the one living in the fantasy world, jkhan. I hope one day you will be freed from the influence of hadiths and its source, the Bible, and you will see the multi-universe and multi-planet and the living things that live there, which the Qur'an clearly states.

Peace

Don't feel sorry for me brother... coz in sha allah i will die with that belief...

Hadith bible has no connection with me to influence me to accept what i have accepted... have i ever mentioned so for you to write what you have written..

Emre_1974tr

Don't feel sorry for me brother... coz in sha allah i will die with that belief...

No, I hope you will realize your mistake and turn to the truth about these universes, my brother.

If they are not Hadith, Bible and the flat earth current of today's christians etc. you wouldn't have thought of the model of the world you are thinking of now.

I can see multiverses and multiplanets not because today's scientific world advocates multiverse and multiplanet, but thanks to my own observations and Quran verses.

If I were someone who followed what was said in the name of science, I would be advocating for vaccines right now, but on the contrary, I say stay away from vaccines, right? I saying stay away from hospitals, do not get official covid treatment.

Again, if I were someone who believed in what was said in the name of science, I would defend evolution. But on the contrary, I say evolution is a lie. I say that God created living things separately.

Look, I wrote the following in a part of my article about the heavens/universes (again, I'm giving it with machine translation)

Quran saying stars shooting 'fireballs' into space

Holy Quran

Al Jinn Surah

´And we pried into the secrets of heaven; but we found it filled with stern guards and flaming fires.
´We used, indeed, to sit there in (hidden) stations, to (steal) a hearing; but any who listen now will find a flaming fire watching him in ambush.

675 We have adorned the lower heaven with lamps, and We made it with projectiles against the devils; and We prepared for them the retribution of the blazing fire.

Saffat Surah

We have indeed decked the lower heaven with beauty (in) the stars,-
(For beauty) and for guard against all obstinate rebellious evil
(So) they should not strain their ears in the direction of the Exalted Assembly but be cast away from every side,
Repulsed, for they are under a perpetual penalty,
Except such as snatch away something by stealth, and they are pursued by a flaming fire, of piercing brightness.

Months after writing this article, the following discovery was made

And today Hubble sees star shooting 'cannonballs' into space

https//www.upi.com/Science_News/2016/10/06/Hubble-sees-star-shooting-cannonballs-into-space/9071475783632/?ur3=1

So the discovery was made after my post. I only found this truth by looking at the verses. You can check this by looking at my Turkish articles and their writing dates.

https//emre1974tr.blogspot.com/2016/05/goklerevrenler.html

Peace

Iyyaka

Peace Emre_1974tr,

You're the one living in the fantasy world, jkhan. I hope one day you will be freed from the influence of hadiths and its source, the Bible, and you will see the multi-universe and multi-planet and the living things that live there, which the Qur'an clearly states.

You should be more cautious with your statements (in bold above)...Maybe you are the one who is so overwhelmed by its own fantasies that you no longer read the text according to what it says but according to what you want it to say (self-persuasion)

Emre_1974tr

No, I hope you will realize your mistake and turn to the truth about these universes, my brother.

If they are not Hadith, Bible and the flat earth current of today's christians etc. you wouldn't have thought of the model of the world you are thinking of now.

I can see multiverses and multiplanets not because today's scientific world advocates multiverse and multiplanet, but thanks to my own observations and Quran verses.

If I were someone who followed what was said in the name of science, I would be advocating for vaccines right now, but on the contrary, I say stay away from vaccines, right? I saying stay away from hospitals, do not get official covid treatment.

Again, if I were someone who believed in what was said in the name of science, I would defend evolution. But on the contrary, I say evolution is a lie. I say that God created living things separately.

Look, I wrote the following in a part of my article about the heavens/universes (again, I'm giving it with machine translation)

Quran saying stars shooting 'fireballs' into space

Holy Quran

Al Jinn Surah

´And we pried into the secrets of heaven; but we found it filled with stern guards and flaming fires.
´We used, indeed, to sit there in (hidden) stations, to (steal) a hearing; but any who listen now will find a flaming fire watching him in ambush.

675 We have adorned the lower heaven with lamps, and We made it with projectiles against the devils; and We prepared for them the retribution of the blazing fire.

Saffat Surah

We have indeed decked the lower heaven with beauty (in) the stars,-
(For beauty) and for guard against all obstinate rebellious evil
(So) they should not strain their ears in the direction of the Exalted Assembly but be cast away from every side,
Repulsed, for they are under a perpetual penalty,
Except such as snatch away something by stealth, and they are pursued by a flaming fire, of piercing brightness.

Months after writing this article, the following discovery was made

And today Hubble sees star shooting 'cannonballs' into space

https//www.upi.com/Science_News/2016/10/06/Hubble-sees-star-shooting-cannonballs-into-space/9071475783632/?ur3=1

So the discovery was made after my post. I only found this truth by looking at the verses. You can check this by looking at my Turkish articles and their writing dates.

https//emre1974tr.blogspot.com/2016/05/goklerevrenler.html

Peace

And;

https//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9611500.0

https//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9611616.0

jkhan

No, I hope you will realize your mistake and turn to the truth about these universes, my brother.

If they are not Hadith, Bible and the flat earth current of today's christians etc. you wouldn't have thought of the model of the world you are thinking of now.

I can see multiverses and multiplanets not because today's scientific world advocates multiverse and multiplanet, but thanks to my own observations and Quran verses.

If I were someone who followed what was said in the name of science, I would be advocating for vaccines right now, but on the contrary, I say stay away from vaccines, right? I saying stay away from hospitals, do not get official covid treatment.

Again, if I were someone who believed in what was said in the name of science, I would defend evolution. But on the contrary, I say evolution is a lie. I say that God created living things separately.

Look, I wrote the following in a part of my article about the heavens/universes (again, I'm giving it with machine translation)

Quran saying stars shooting 'fireballs' into space

Holy Quran

Al Jinn Surah

´And we pried into the secrets of heaven; but we found it filled with stern guards and flaming fires.
´We used, indeed, to sit there in (hidden) stations, to (steal) a hearing; but any who listen now will find a flaming fire watching him in ambush.

675 We have adorned the lower heaven with lamps, and We made it with projectiles against the devils; and We prepared for them the retribution of the blazing fire.

Saffat Surah

We have indeed decked the lower heaven with beauty (in) the stars,-
(For beauty) and for guard against all obstinate rebellious evil
(So) they should not strain their ears in the direction of the Exalted Assembly but be cast away from every side,
Repulsed, for they are under a perpetual penalty,
Except such as snatch away something by stealth, and they are pursued by a flaming fire, of piercing brightness.

Months after writing this article, the following discovery was made

And today Hubble sees star shooting 'cannonballs' into space

https//www.upi.com/Science_News/2016/10/06/Hubble-sees-star-shooting-cannonballs-into-space/9071475783632/?ur3=1

So the discovery was made after my post. I only found this truth by looking at the verses. You can check this by looking at my Turkish articles and their writing dates.

https//emre1974tr.blogspot.com/2016/05/goklerevrenler.html

Peace

Peace lovely brother...

You and me and everyonr are living on the same earth whereever you you may be... Fantasy is something that we've never seen but still tempting to make it true... You have made the fantasy true without any proof... As I said earlier NO EMPIRICAL evidence. But weak and fragile but still insist...
Mistake.. Lol. If I am mistaken then you are right... That's weird...
Research... You are totally covered and blinded while you are living in real world...

Just answer me within your own perception ... According to link no. 01 point is mast and flag is disappearing coz earth has curvature. . Does that what you believe....? Okay fine... Why then while I am lying on the beach flights go over my head and then after few minutes it is disappearing on the horizon as if it was landed... Ship and mast and flag are on the surface for that matter in the levelled surface of sea. So they call curvature of earth makes it dissapeares ...Then why would what is above the surface of earth also should disappear same. Two logic here? One curvature of earth and the other is field of view (OR maximum limit eye sight can reach) ... Come on science. .

Sheer wrong logic...
Why I see top part of clouds being on the earth... Why I see clouds setting...
Curvature is horrible lie which has no sense at all...
I am waiting for an earth picture without atmosphere and sea water... Lol..

good_logic

And much more questions to ponder...
https//lisbdnet.com/what-keeps-water-from-falling-off-the-earth/

I wonder if we ever run out of questions...
There is a lot to learn, we need endless of lives and endless arguments and endless lessons ...
One thing for sure, I wont be here, in this life, long enough to know even a spec of what there is to know. Yes even if I lived millions of years.

But we know few things ,think we know other things , and argue about everything we learn.
GOD bless you all.
Peace.

jkhan

And much more questions to ponder...
https//lisbdnet.com/what-keeps-water-from-falling-off-the-earth/

I wonder if we ever run out of questions...
There is a lot to learn, we need endless of lives and endless arguments and endless lessons ...
One thing for sure, I wont be here, in this life, long enough to know even a spec of what there is to know. Yes even if I lived millions of years.

But we know few things ,think we know other things , and argue about everything we learn.
GOD bless you all.
Peace.

Peace...
Amazing how people try to avert their own belief by saying nothing but still say something that has no meaning.. Live millions of years to know where you live.. rotfl

Here is my question...
Suppose if we dig a big hole to a lake and connect that hole through pipeline to sea, will the water of the lake dry out? I don't know.. Either try it speculate ... Suppose Luths lake or any interlocked water body or reserve OR for that matter Casbian OR black sea or even Ural sea..
For me they will dry out coz its water seep through the whole and fall into major ocean.. So a hole works againat gravity..
Have you guys ever wondered what would happen if again I reiterate IF one dig a hole in North pole Upto south pole in sphere earth what would happen to water.. Just a hilarious question.. Ah ah.. May be not.. Where ever you dig hole where there is water, water definitely find its way through it... Can anyone imagine what I say.... A hole from north pole to south pole or vice versa.. Or east to west.. Do we see water finds its way through it or Gravity stops it? If gravity stops it then why it works in a lake or small body of water basins... Thing is
..no one can stop water from flowing when it doesn't have a basin to hold it.. If the basin has a hole it definitely go through it until the hole is locked..

That's so simple as one can think... No need millions of years of applications of thoughts for it...

BTW brother Emere.. I am not influenced at all by hadith or bible or or flat earth movements.. But when I read Quran ubonlyvsent get that earth is stationary... Can't go agaisnt the reality of Quran.. Thank you.

Emre_1974tr

Peace lovely brother...

You and me and everyonr are living on the same earth whereever you you may be... Fantasy is something that we've never seen but still tempting to make it true... You have made the fantasy true without any proof... As I said earlier NO EMPIRICAL evidence. But weak and

As I said, you live in a fantasy world, my friend, and unfortunately, you believed these lies under the influence of hadith, the Bible, and the flat world movement. You have no proof. But I bear witness to the truth based on the evidence. And I turn to the truth by looking at the verses of the Qur'an. But you have turned your back on both the verses and the evidence.

I hope you will come back from this mistake my friend.

First of all, although I did not make any comments on the subject you mentioned, your talking to yourself as if I was defending what was written there shows what kind of fantasy world you are in.

I discussed those issues at length with flat earthers years ago. almost all of them fell apart even in my first question. For example, no answer was given to my question why the sun cannot be seen even with telescopes at night. They could not explain why the Himalayan peak could not be seen from a distance(After a certain distance, the top of the mountain disappears due to the tilt of the earth. So while you can see the lower part of the mountain, some parts of it, the summit mysteriously disappears. Actually, this mysterious disappearance is for flat earthers, of course). They always tried to change subjects.

I'm always researched and thinked about these issues, don't worry.

I hope you will get rid of your superstitions and see the reality of the multiverse, multi-planet, and the living creatures that live there,The earth is a spinning globe as it is said in the Qur'an.

Peace dear brother

truth

Contemplate...

Why are all the celestial bodies that we see with our eyes and instruments all round and spherical?

The moon, the planets and the sun itself.

good_logic

Peace jkhan.

Does it really matter if we differ on what shape the earth is?
Have we not all got more questions on both sides of the argument?

For me, it is pointless trying to insist on something that can be taken or left and makes no difference to our salvation/redemption/role and purpose.

I am also saying we should keep learning all of us
My opinion is with the spherical earth. My understanding is for me. living with others that view the earth differently does not concern me and is irrelevant to my unity in belief of the creator with them and their friendship with me.
GOD bless you.
Peace.

jkhan

Peace jkhan.

Does it really matter if we differ on what shape the earth is?
Have we not all got more questions on both sides of the argument?

For me, it is pointless trying to insist on something that can be taken or left and makes no difference to our salvation/redemption/role and purpose.

I am also saying we should keep learning all of us
My opinion is with the spherical earth. My understanding is for me. living with others that view the earth differently does not concern me and is irrelevant to my unity in belief of the creator with them and their friendship with me.
GOD bless you.
Peace.

Peace fellow brother..

You are type of strange character when you reply to certain topics.. When someone dig deep you start to say same old phrase.. " does it really matter..... "
Yes... It matters... It does really matters... Coz God claims He created the Earth and Heavens... And questions don't you see how we have raised the sky without pilars... He further question do you doubt the one who created the Earth in 4 days.... Yes.. One can doubt it means if not he finds it get guided from God Himself what actually He has created.... How can one doubt God? Coz either the knowledge of nature of a person should excel or he should agree what science explains... So.. In order not to doubt things which are explained in Quran should make sense in accordance with God gifted knowledge and guidance or it should at least match with so science.... If not doubting in an ancient book is much worthy abd thus lead to harbor doubts on the author of the book... It is imperative for me and it should be important for all sensible person...
If creator doesn't know to explain what He has created and then it exposes He is not the Creator of Heavens and Earth... So for me within mere Quran stationary Earth is the only option coupled with my knowledge to certain extent it gives me only one option that this earth is massive and stationary and round and every other celestial bodies are minute compared to the size of Earth ..
No one will understand this unless God willing.. In my thorough understanding if one chooses the wrong option out of two Either spinning or stationary then I am sure the wrong option is sheer misguidance from God.. Claiming that God has this and that while He indeed not is blasphemy... That's why it matters... For example if one calls with intent that sun is 400 times bigger than Moon and 93miluon miles away without any tangible proof then it is sheer blasphemy... Same for stationary Earth... If I call stationary and if not stationary and spinning... So... So choose wisely or be silent.. Brother GL.. While being on the side of heliocentric model of earth and when others question why suddenly say "Why it matters"..
Either say I don't know.. Or say Yes it is spinning....
Saying I don't know is much worthy statement for those who have not researched it thoroughly...

So God created UNIVERSE and tiny mote EARTH in 6 days..? rotfl
Guidance from God only.. Seek with patience.. Thank you

Emre_1974tr

As I said, you live in a fantasy world, my friend, and unfortunately, you believed these lies under the influence of hadith, the Bible, and the flat world movement. You have no proof. But I bear witness to the truth based on the evidence. And I turn to the truth by looking at the verses of the Qur'an. But you have turned your back on both the verses and the evidence.

I hope you will come back from this mistake my friend.

First of all, although I did not make any comments on the subject you mentioned, your talking to yourself as if I was defending what was written there shows what kind of fantasy world you are in.

I discussed those issues at length with flat earthers years ago. almost all of them fell apart even in my first question. For example, no answer was given to my question why the sun cannot be seen even with telescopes at night. They could not explain why the Himalayan peak could not be seen from a distance(After a certain distance, the top of the mountain disappears due to the tilt of the earth. So while you can see the lower part of the mountain, some parts of it, the summit mysteriously disappears. Actually, this mysterious disappearance is for flat earthers, of course). They always tried to change subjects.

I'm always researched and thinked about these issues, don't worry.

I hope you will get rid of your superstitions and see the reality of the multiverse, multi-planet, and the living creatures that live there,The earth is a spinning globe as it is said in the Qur'an.

Peace dear brother

And by the way, I found out that the stars were throwing fireballs into space just by looking at the verses. Months after my writing, the scientific world discovered this. You can check the date of my post.

The Qur'an is truly a book full of miracles.

Peace

Iyyaka

And by the way, I found out that the stars were throwing fireballs into space just by looking at the verses. Months after my writing, the scientific world discovered this. You can check the date of my post.

The Qur'an is truly a book full of miracles.

Congratulations! You deserve the first prize for...ridiculousness. Just like the one who says the earth is flat.
In the age of satellites and rockets with on-board cameras, in a way, we live in strange times (blinded by our deep beliefs); although I can understand that the confrontation of modern science with the holy scriptures may confuse some.

The word "maṣābīḥa" (675) does not mean "star" but "lamp/lantern" (to describe comets and/or shooting stars). The word for ordinary star is "najm" in the Quran.
Furthermore, the Qur'an describes these celestial objects as "moving" (cf. arabic terme "rujūman&quot, not "static" or projecting balls of energy invisible to the human eye.
Finally, the word "shuhuban" (720 refers to special "stars" that shine brightly in the form of flames. These are not ordinary stars that appear round and static in the sky.

Emre_1974tr

And by the way, I found out that the stars were throwing fireballs into space just by looking at the verses. Months after my writing, the scientific world discovered this. You can check the date of my post.

The Qur'an is truly a book full of miracles.

Peace

And I am the first person in the world to discover it(NASA's invention was published after my writing). The Qur'an is truly a book full of evidence.

By the way, the holy Quran also uses the term lamp for our sun. In addition, by using the expression lamp for all the stars in other verses, he also informs that all stars are actually suns. In other words, it states that the sun is also a star/lamp.

And by stating that the fire atmosphere above the stars resembles hell, the Qur'an offers us another miracle.

Peace

Noon_waalqalami

If I call stationary and if not stationary and spinning...

So God created UNIVERSE and tiny mote EARTH in 6 days..?

peace, nothing is stationary and yes the earth is very tiny and we are extremely tiny compared to it.

https//media0.giphy.com/media/J2h1RiPrjnqgQ9EDo9/giphy.gif?cid=790b76115a09ebf82cd14a8ad070fa919fefc75810580fb5&rid=giphy.gif&ct=g

2130 اولم do they not ىر see الذىن the ones كفروا reject they of ان that indeed السموت the skies والارض and the land كانتا were dual رتقا sewn of ففتقنهما so rip we them dual وجعلنا and made we of من from الما the water كل every شى thing حى live افلا then so not ىومنون believing 2131 وجعلنا and made we of فى in الارض the land روسى high peaks ان an/that تمىد shake (shift) بهم with them وجعلنا and made we of فىها therein فجاجا wide ravine of سبلا paths of لعلهم perhaps they ىهتدون guided being 2132 وجعلنا and made we of السما the sky سقفا roof of محفوظا safeguard/protective of وهم and they عن about اىتها signs its معرضون who away turning 2133 وهو and he الذى the one خلقا creation of للىل the night والنهر and the daytime والشمس and the sun والقمر and the moon كل kullun/each (all mentioned prior) فى in فلك falakin/ship ىسبحون sailing (floating)

2,252 yrs ago Eratosthenes (sticks & shadows) measured circumference

41,132 feet = 12,100 ft (average depth of ocean) + 29,032 ft Mt Everest
131,477,280 feet = 24,901 miles (earth's circumference) x 5,280 ft/mile

0.0003 = average depth of oceans + highest mountain/circumference

giant holding globe would not feel mountains or oceans!

likewise, travel east or west guaranteed you'll return full circle!

And I am the first person in the world to discover it(NASA's invention was published after my writing). The Qur'an is truly a book full of evidence.

By the way, the holy Quran also uses the term lamp for our sun. In addition, by using the expression lamp for all the stars in other verses, he also informs that all stars are actually suns. In other words, it states that the sun is also a star/lamp.

peace, reposting does not help; what did you discover?
likewise show verse and words you translated as what?

7116 وجعل and made القمر the moon فىهن in them (f/p) نورا nuran/light of
وجعل and made الشمس the sun سرجا sirajan/radiant lamp of
7813 وجعلنا and made we of سرجا sirajan/radiant lamp of وهاجا wahhajan/fiery of

1516 2561 تبرك blesseth الذى the one جعل made فى in السما the sky بروجا burujan/constructs of
وجعل and made فىها in it (f) سرجا sirajan/radiant lamp of وقمرا and moon of منىرا muniran/illuminate of

851 البروج l-buruji/the constructs (constellations)

676 124 كوكبا kawkaban/cosmic object of (planet, etc.)
2435 كوكب kawkabun/cosmic object
376 الكوكب l-kawakibi/the cosmic objects
822 الكوكب l-kawakibu/the cosmic objects

697 3788 5249 5675 778 812 النجوم l-nujuma/the stars
754 1612 2218 والنجوم wal-nujuma/and the stars
1616 وبالنجم wabil-najmi/and by the star

4112 675 بمصبىح bimasabiha/with torches

good_logic

Peace jkhan.
Did I not say the earth is spherical and spinning in an orbit around the sun according to my understanding of Qoran and Science?
This is how GOD made the day and night alternate on earth and how the seasons are alternating.

I also say qoran does not instruct us to believe in earth as a certain shape or size as part of our redemption/salvation
And it does not matter to me what people believe about the earth if they believe in their creator and accountability of their deeds.

GOD bless you.
Peace.

truth

Peace,

I want to share a short thought experiment I came upon a couple of years ago during a contemplation. It involves the 'young earth' pov that some believers hold onto based on the assumed historicity of the Scriptures. Their calculations give them an age for the universe as we see it of around 6000 years.

Here is the experiment.

If you had to determine an actual point of creation, as in a time in which everything just began, then consider this...

What if the entire universe as you now appreciate it, every state of every thing, was created just NOW.

You were created as you are just a moment ago with all the memories you think you remember already implanted and formed in your neural networks, every scar and line on your skin put there as part of the starting conditions. How could you distinguish and argue that it wasn't made that way right from that very moment?

That is in effect what the young earthers are assuming happened 6000 or so years ago. That it all started from a point in which 13 billion years was not required before it in order for things to emerge that way. So if that could be the case 6000 years ago, then it could very well have been a minute or so ago as well. All the histories etc that have been written are just like the fossils in the earth etc. All put there and placed into existence to give you the sense that it is all old.

Is The God capable of starting up the world and universe in this way? Absolutely. Is it what happened? I say no because there is a more logical answer, that is more miraculous than the 'instant on simulation' scenario that I have described and of which 'young earth' belief is a version of. The one where the universe and everyhing in it start from a singularity with unseen laws and design in the starting conditions making the universe and humanity evolve an intellect that is capable of inquiring and understanding what The God created in due course.

The God is The Creator and The Teacher.