Quranic view of the creation process : Earth/Land and Mountains
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Peace Jkhan,
Peace brother Iyyaka...
I hope you have more to say on this topic.. What are you trying to say by this topic anyway?No i expose ONLY what the QURAN tells us about the relationship between the earth and the mountains.
My speech is clear.
I have given enough elements to meditate on (then you have to look for yourself the verses quoted but not detailed in my intervention)
To summarize, and if we were to retain only one thing it is that, according to the Quran, the mountains are not part of the earth or do not come from it.
And like any element of the creation, in the Quran, they have first of all a UTILITY for the Men and their survival.This is in partial opposition with this remark (2 minutes and 5 seconds of the video below - that fascinates so many modern "Muslims"
"The Quranic descriptions are PERFECT agreement with modern geological data"- the phenomenon of plate tectonics or "folding" is not in the Quran
- The mountains in the Quran are not the result of this collision of the continental plates.
https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=RhsdUu-mLNk
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Peace Jkhan,
No i expose ONLY what the QURAN tells us about the relationship between the earth and the mountains.
My speech is clear.
I have given enough elements to meditate on (then you have to look for yourself the verses quoted but not detailed in my intervention)
To summarize, and if we were to retain only one thing it is that, according to the Quran, the mountains are not part of the earth or do not come from it.
And like any element of the creation, in the Quran, they have first of all a UTILITY for the Men and their survival.This is in partial opposition with this remark (2 minutes and 5 seconds of the video below - that fascinates so many modern "Muslims"
"The Quranic descriptions are PERFECT agreement with modern geological data"- the phenomenon of plate tectonics or "folding" is not in the Quran
- The mountains in the Quran are not the result of this collision of the continental plates.
https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=RhsdUu-mLNk
Peace..
Keep researching.. God will at one point you will grasp the creations of God and what they are... Until then good luck.. God bless you.. -
Peace Jkhan,
Peace..
Keep researching.. God will at one point you will grasp the creations of God and what they are... Until then good luck.. God bless you..I did a study and i quoted you clear excerpts from the Qur'an on the subject of the relationship between the earth and the mountains. And you say "Keep researching"... for what ? to come to other conclusions than what the Qur'an says or to conclude of what you think is true?
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Peace Jkhan,
I did a study and i quoted you clear excerpts from the Qur'an on the subject of the relationship between the earth and the mountains. And you say "Keep researching"... for what ? to come to other conclusions than what the Qur'an says or to conclude of what you think is true?Well.. Calm down.. Too much dispute.. Then Satan's job will be easy..
Red... If that is what I want from God... Then I deny God manifestly.. Coz if I expect anything other than QURAN then my destiny is needles to express.. Ensure that you also not seek anything other than what Quran says..
Brown.... Since Quran is true that is true.. What I think or you think or anyone else think won't make any change in what is already written in Quran ... Quran is true and find a way to get guidance from it.. Guidance cannot be of wrong option... There is no guidance with misguidance blended .. So choose wisely what is right within Quran... Debate until you get convinced... For example.. I call earth is stationary.. It is not my belief but those who are against stationary are relatively failing to respond meaningfully to my challenging questions... So my research works well coz my concerns are not answered rationally with truth.. But keep mocking..
Keep researching.. Allah's book is miraculous.. Don't confine yourself as if you are done with it..
Thank you.. God bless you.. Seek the guidance with patience.. -
Well.. Calm down.. Too much dispute.. Then Satan's job will be easy..
Red... If that is what I want from God... Then I deny God manifestly.. Coz if I expect anything other than QURAN then my destiny is needles to express.. Ensure that you also not seek anything other than what Quran says..
Brown.... Since Quran is true that is true.. What I think or you think or anyone else think won't make any change in what is already written in Quran ... Quran is true and find a way to get guidance from it.. Guidance cannot be of wrong option... There is no guidance with misguidance blended .. So choose wisely what is right within Quran... Debate until you get convinced... For example.. I call earth is stationary.. It is not my belief but those who are against stationary are relatively failing to respond meaningfully to my challenging questions... So my research works well coz my concerns are not answered rationally with truth.. But keep mocking..
Keep researching.. Allah's book is miraculous.. Don't confine yourself as if you are done with it..
Thank you.. God bless you.. Seek the guidance with patience..I am calm.
But you are dancing around the subject of this post.
If you don't want to meditate on my study with Quranic proofs, no problem bro (don't do any interventions and it's over)
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Earth creation is mostly based on unproven theories. However, just recently this is what we got
Study reveals a “boring” era when Earth was flat, with no mountains
Scientists discovered that Earth was likely quite flat during it’s so-called middle ages. Not flat as in conspiracies that don’t believe our planet is round, but lacking in mountains. It was also a period of little growth of life. In fact, this stretch of time from 1.8 billion to 0.8 billion years ago is also known as the “Boring Billion” and referred to as “the dullest period in Earth’s history.”
Nothing dull about what the researchers found, however, by studying the chemical element europium, embedded in zircon crystals. Their analysis revealed that during the Boring Billion, the absence of tectonic activity that’s crucial to mountain creation also slowed the nutrient cycling vital for the evolution of life.
The research involved studying zircon crystals from around the globe, carried out by teams from Peking University, the University of Toronto, Rutgers University, and the University of Science and Technology of China. They based their work on previous findings that showed a connection between the amount of europium located inside a zircon crystal and the thickness of the Earth’s crust when the crystal was formed. A larger amount of the europium meant more pressure pushing down on it from above. This indicated that the crust was thicker.
The scientists, led by Ming Tang from Peking University, found that during the so-called middle or “Boring” period, Earth’s crust was thinner than it is now. There were no mountains and the surface was all oceans and flat land masses. This indicated to the researchers that tectonic activity likely stopped or at least slowed majorly for about 1 billion years. Tectonic activity is known to push mountains up, leading also to erosion that enriches oceanic environments and fosters evolving life. If such a cycle was disrupted, evolution would have slowed to a crawl. This is what previous studies have suggested for that time period.https//bigthink.com/hard-science/study-earth-flat-no-mountains/
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Earth creation is mostly based on unproven theories. However, just recently this is what we got
Thank you for sharing this research.
But from a Quranic perspective (the subject of this topic) the mountains are SEPARATED pieces from the earth (another entity autonomous from the earth).
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Thank you for sharing this research.
But from a Quranic perspective (the subject of this topic) the mountains are SEPARATED pieces from the earth (another entity autonomous from the earth).
So two differents subjects (modern science and Quranic perspective).Wait, isnt it general knowledge that mountains are separated pieces and also do what earth can't? Science isnt needed to get that.
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Wait, isnt it general knowledge that mountains are separated pieces and also do what earth can't? Science isnt needed to get that.
Mountains take on very different forms depending on the processes leading to their orogeny from continental margin escarpments and rifts in the extensive domain, to collision and folding chains, via subduction phases creating explosive volcanoes in island arcs or along cordilleras, not forgetting effusive hot spot volcanism and intrusions uncovered by erosion.
=> Modern science demonstrates that mountains are linked to the earth/land (they are part of it).
=> For the Qur'an the view is not the same they (mountains) are brought in as elements planted in the earth/land. -
Mountains take on very different forms depending on the processes leading to their orogeny from continental margin escarpments and rifts in the extensive domain, to collision and folding chains, via subduction phases creating explosive volcanoes in island arcs or along cordilleras, not forgetting effusive hot spot volcanism and intrusions uncovered by erosion.
=> Modern science demonstrates that mountains are linked to the earth/land (they are part of it).
=> For the Qur'an the view is not the same they (mountains) are brought in as elements planted in the earth/land.All things like rocks and plants outside are linked to earth. Thats a general thing. Mountains do mimick plants.Neither of them can stay without roots. Mountains must push themselves downward to the mantle as a way to manage their weight and height. Iceberg behaves the same way. Some mountains are apparently still under the earth surface.That said, I think your last line is quite intriguing and should be scientifically researched. At the end of the day, many natural things we take for granted indeed came from space.
Peace
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All things like rocks and plants outside are linked to earth. Thats a general thing. Mountains do mimick plants.Neither of them can stay without roots. Mountains must push themselves downward to the mantle as a way to manage their weight and height. Iceberg behaves the same way. Some mountains are apparently still under the earth surface.That said, I think your last line is quite intriguing and should be scientifically researched. At the end of the day, many natural things we take for granted indeed came from space.
Peace reel,
I just expose what the Quran inform us about his vision of the Creation (trying to be neutral).
Modern science already DEMONSTRATE how the moutains are born (part of the earth, not separated with it).
On this aspect, the vision of the Quran is different. But as a believer I don't mind that WHEN the Qur'anic word is placed in its original environment (avoiding anachronism).NB
- Mazhar has understood the creation of the mountains from a Qur'anic perspective (point 1 - http//haqeeqat.pk/Mountains.htm) " firmly grounded anchors were not created in the universe but were inserted in the Earth which means it were the materials "imported" into the Earth. They were inserted and placed in such manner that they are over her surface and firmly grounded downwards within the Earth."
BUT unfortunately, on point 2 (quoting verse ), he is mistaken because the discourse analysis of the context is eschatological (cf. verses 2787-90).
- Mazhar has understood the creation of the mountains from a Qur'anic perspective (point 1 - http//haqeeqat.pk/Mountains.htm) " firmly grounded anchors were not created in the universe but were inserted in the Earth which means it were the materials "imported" into the Earth. They were inserted and placed in such manner that they are over her surface and firmly grounded downwards within the Earth."