HEAVEN IS NOT PARADISE IT IS UNIVERSE

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THE "EVIDENCE OF DESIRE" ALSO POINTS TO THE FACT THAT THE AFTERLIFE UNIVERSE HAS ALREADY BEEN CREATED

I also think that the famous "Proof of Desire", which shows the existence of Allah and the reality of eternal life, is a proof that the Hereafter Universe and life already exists. Because humans want their lives to continue immediately/uninterruptedly. It is as if this desire is encoded in their genes and programs. No one wants to wait thousands or millions of years to be resurrected again. In this context, it is more rational to accept that there are some servants who attain the life of paradise immediately after their death than the proof of desire.

As I said, I think the Evidence of Desire shows that the afterlife exists even now. Let us itemize this as follows

1- We see that the natural and healthy desires of human beings are usually reciprocated (for example, the desire to drink water is reciprocated by the presence/existence of water, etc...).

2- Almost no one wants to stay/wait for thousands or millions of years in a state of extinction, even if there is a break, they want to continue their lives as soon as possible, especially they want to reach the life of paradise immediately.

3- In this context, at least some deserving servants have already been created and started their eternal life in paradise without waiting (and therefore there is a place(s) where this happens).

In addition, according to the argument from desire, the blessings that people desire are mostly already created, that is, ready. From this point of view, again, according to the argument from desire, it is more logical to think that paradise exists now rather than in the future.

Furthermore, this point of view/questioning provides another proof that there are similar blessings in paradise as there are on earth.

(from my Turkish article)

http//emre1974tr.blogspot.com/2016/05/goklerevrenler.html

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Only Paradise is forever.

The verses emphasize that those in paradise, unlike those in hell, will not taste death except the first death. Those in paradise will live forever, while those in hell may one day be destroyed along with hell itself.

Saffat 55. When he looks, he finds him in the middle of Hell. 56. He says, "By Allah, you almost destroyed me too." 57. "Were it not for the Blessing of my Lord, I would have been with you now." 58-59. But then, is it so that we are not to die.
beyond our previous death, and that we shall never be made to suffer?

They will not taste death there except the first death. Allah has protected them from the torment of Hell.(Surat al-Duhan, verse 56)

Yes, those in paradise will live forever, while those in hell will one day be destroyed with hell.

And according to these verses I have given, those in paradise will taste death only once in their lives. That is, their death on earth. But those in hell will taste a second death. Because they died once on earth and now they will die once in hell.

Those in paradise will have experienced a total of one death, while those in hell will have experienced a total of two deaths.

Another piece of information these verses give us is that there is no such thing as reincarnation. Because, as God says, there is only one taste of death on earth.

and;

Holy Quran

4040 "Whosoever does an evil deed, he will not be requited except for its equivalent, and whosoever does good, whether male or female and is an acknowledger, so those will be admitted to Paradise, where they will receive provision without limit."

6160 Whoever comes with a good deed, he will receive ten times its worth, and whoever comes with a sin, he will only be recompensed its like; they will not be wronged.

1- Hell will end one day.

2- There is no reincarnation.

3- The reward is always greater and eternal than the punishment.

4- Those in paradise will have tasted only one death (their death on earth). But those in hell will taste a second death (they will die once more in hell in addition to their death on earth).

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I have researched this here https//onequran.net/post/solar-system-in-quran conclusively proving that Sama and Samawat are either Planets, Stars, Galaxies or the Universe while Jannah is Paradise or Garden.

The issue with the original post 'Heaven is not Paradise' is that it is oxymoronic. Sorry! But let me explain.

The post doesn't use the Arabic word Sama or Samawat but tries to explain the english word Heaven. Now obviously some translators have translated Jannah as Heaven and Samawat also as Heaven.

So saying 'Heaven is not Paradise' is like saying 'Iceland is not a country but a land of ice'. The post should read 'Sama and Samawat is not Paradise'. Which I agree!

salman378

The Qur'an offers a multi-universe model.

But it is not infinite.

Seven universes, for example.

Other universes have planets too.

Dear brother,

I have research it extensively that Seven Heavens is not Seven Universes, but Seven Classical Planets.

For the proof, please go to https//onequran.net/post/solar-system-in-quran

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Quran 5122 In the heaven is your provision, and what you are promised. (Paradise and hell are both ready and outside the world, in the sky)

The prophets living in Paradise will be summoned to the court as witnesses on the Day of Judgment

Quran 7711 And when the messengers are gathered.

heaven is not paradise. Heaven =universe
Heavens = universes

The Qur'an offers a multi-universe model.

But it is not infinite.

Seven universes, for example.

Other universes have planets too.

65.12 Allah is the one who created seven Heavens and from Earth like them (of corresponding type); command descends among them so that you may know that Allah is capable of anything and that Allah knows everything.

Example "Floor of Lord" (Indallah) = afterlife universe
Except for the Hereafter universe, all the other universes will end with big crunch.

Quran 21104 On the day when We roll up the heavens like a scroll of books is rolled up. As We initiated the first creation, so shall We return it. It is a promise of Ours that We will do this.

Quran 3967 They have not given God His true worth; and the whole earth is within His fist on the day of resurrection, and the heavens will be folded in His right hand. Be He glorified; He is much too high above what they set up.

Quran A man came running from the farthest part of the city, saying "O my people, follow the messengers. Follow those who do not ask you for any wage, and are guided. Why should I not serve the One who initiated me, and to Him is your ultimate return? Shall I take gods besides Him? If the Gracious intends any harm for me, their intercession cannot help me in the least, nor can they save me. Then I would be clearly astray. I have acknowledged your Lord, so listen to me! It was said, "Enter Paradise." He said "Oh, how I wish my people only knew of what my Lord has forgiven me, and made me of the honored ones."We did not send down upon his people after him soldiers from the sky; for there was no need to send them down. For all it took was one scream, whereupon they were stilled. (3620-29)

Quran 1956 And recall in the Book, Enoch; he was a man of truth, a prophet.
1957 And We raised him to a high place.

Quran 355 For God said "O Jesus, I will terminate your life, and raise you to Me, and cleanse you of those who have rejected, and make those who have followed you above those who have rejected until the Day of Resurrection. Then to Me is your return, all of you,so I will judge between you in what it was that you disputed."

Prophets and very good peoples in Paradise now. They were created in Paradise (floor of Lord/other universe) without waiting for the Hour.

But, Other people will wait for the Resurrection for re-creation.

The Qur'an says that a group of exception people are already living in Paradise.

And it even tells us that some of them are talking about the world's inhabitants. They say "they(World peoples) will come to us later". However, it is difficult to see them for you because the English translations of the Qur'an do not provide complete sentences.

Likewise, the verses of the Lord's Floor are also mentioned, but you cannot see it again in English translations. Because, unfortunately, those under the influence of traditional interpretation make translations in their own understanding.

Yes, according to the Qur'an there are already people living in Paradise.

And that's where Christians believe that Jesus is in paradise.

In the false Gospels, the event was described incorrectly, so you could not see the painting until today.

Jesus and all other messengers/ prophets live in paradise now.

Quran 3169 Do not count that those who are killed in the sake of God are dead. No, they are alive at their Lord receiving provisions.

3170 Happy with what God has granted them from His grace, and they rejoice in those who have yet to follow after them. There is no fear upon them nor do they grieve.

517 Ingrates indeed are those who have said, "God is the Messiah the son of Mary." Say, "Who has any power against God if He had wanted to destroy the Messiah son of Mary, and his mother, and all who are on earth!" To God is the sovereignty of heavens and earth and all that is in-between; He creates what He pleases. God is capable of all things. (Jesus and his mother living in other universe, Like other prophets...)

Quran 848 He will then receive an easy reckoning.
849 He will return to his family in joy! (The person who is called from Paradise to the day of judgment will return to Paradise again with joy)

5313 Indeed, he saw him in another descent.
5314 At the ultimate point.
5315 Next to the eternal Paradise.
(Even when the prophet Muhammad lived in the world, he was taken to visit the universe of the Hereafter/ Floor of Lord)

567 You will be in three groupings.
568 So those on the right; who will be from those on the right?
569 Those on the left; who will be from those on the left?
5610 And those foremost, who will be from those foremost?
(8th verse about peple who after the apocalyptic blessing will enter the paradise, 9th verse about who will enter hell, and the 10th verse talking about the already pioneering group living in Paradise. Thus, the three classes mentioned in verse 7 are completed)

1993 When all there is in the heavens and the earth will but come to the Gracious as servants.

1956 Recall in the book Enoch; he was truthful, a prophet.
1957 We raised him to a high place.
(Enoch is living in Paradise now)

As can be seen, the Qur'an clearly presents a multiverse model. I have shown this with evidence in the following pages of this thread.

Therefore, the use of the word heaven in the English sense of paradise must cease. In Arabic, the words paradise and sky are different.

salman378

As can be seen, the Qur'an clearly presents a multiverse model. I have shown this with evidence in the following pages of this thread.

Therefore, the use of the word heaven in the English sense of paradise must cease. In Arabic, the words paradise and sky are different.

Well, that's not true. Sorry!

Read 7115 and 7116.

7115 speaks of Seven Heavens

7116 speaks of Moon and Sun within them.

What significance is Moon and Sun with Seven Heavens? Unless it is Geocentric Model with Earth in the center and Moon, Mercury, Venus, Sun, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn as Layers around it.

Don't believe me. Just tell me why is Noah talking to disbelievers about Seven Heavens in 712 to 7117 and telling them about Seven Heavens? Unless disbelievers already know what Seven Heavens are in their times.

Disbelievers would only make sense of what he's saying if Noah is speaking based on the science of his days i.e. Geocentric Model.

2317 And indeed, We created above you Seven Orbits, We are never unaware of the creation.

Verse 2317 even mentions that these seven bodies are in orbit using the Arabic word 'Taraiq' i.e. 'Orbits', 'Roads' or 'Paths'.

Check out this image https//www.google.com/url?sa=i&url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.m.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FFile%3APtolemaic_system_2_%2528PSF%2529.png&psig=AOvVaw1evCpw9P7wBH1xcILR1O-B&ust=1703240130589000&source=images&cd=vfe&opi=89978449&ved=0CBIQjRxqFwoTCIif_YumoIMDFQAAAAAdAAAAABAD

Have you really spent your 5 minutes, only 5 full minutes to explore my article? I challenge you to refute one point. Just one point in it. Link is below!

https//onequran.net/post/solar-system-in-quran

I remain sincerely yours,

Salman

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