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Is it wrong to go to Eid prayers since it's not in the Qur'an

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    Sarah
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    Peace

    Is it wrong to celebrate Eid?
    I still do every year but now I don't see it as a religious obligation, more of a tradition for fun. As long as I don't follow it for religious reasons, it's okay, right? It's like celebrating birthdays and other holidays.

    But yeah, celebrating Eid with loved ones by eating food and going places is different to praying which is religious in its nature.

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      I don't see why it would be wrong to go to Eid prayers because there's nothing wrong with praying more. It is wrong to say it's mandatory or Quranic though since it's not. And I'm also celebrating Eid this year doing henna, making desserts etc.

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        Sarah
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        I don't see why it would be wrong to go to Eid prayers because there's nothing wrong with praying more. It is wrong to say it's mandatory or Quranic though since it's not. And I'm also celebrating Eid this year doing henna, making desserts etc.

        Peace sister Amra,

        Thank you for sharing your perspective. I guess praying extra is one way to look at it but they pray differently to how the Qur'an tells us to pray.

        I hope you had a good Eid

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          HP_TECH
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          In the Name of Allah The Most Gracious The Most Merciful,

          Peace

          The only concern I have is that those prayers are performed after sunrise. The Quran says prayers are prescribed at fixed time for believers. Those times are at dawn before sunrise and in the evening at the declining of the sun until sundown. Also additionally to arise from sleep for prayer in the night. These are our windows of salat. Therefore, I ask myself if indeed Jummah and Eid prayers outside of salat windows are advisable.

          Regards,

          HP_TECH

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            Jafar
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            Is it wrong to celebrate Eid?

            Just because something is not inside a 'holy book' doesn't mean that it's wrong...

            A unique tradition developed in Malaysia and Indonesia wherein during Eid they ask and give forgiveness to each others thus letting go of all the hatred and enmity towards each others.
            And they also do it with members of other religions (Hindus, Buddhist, Christians, Catholics, what have you since Indonesia have more than 100 traditions/religions..)

            If that's the case then it's recommended to celebrate Eid every day throughout the year!
            Do it as often as possible.

            What's wrong is if somebody declare that the above tradition is 'wrong' because it's not inside their holy book!

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              قَالَ عِيسَى ابْنُ مَرْيَمَ اللَّهُمَّ رَبَّنَا أَنزِلْ عَلَيْنَا مَائِدَةً مِّنَ السَّمَاءِ
              تَكُونُ لَنَا عِيدًا لِّأَوَّلِنَا وَآخِرِنَا وَآيَةً مِّنكَ وَارْزُقْنَا وَأَنتَ خَيْرُ الرَّازِقِينَ

              (5114) Jesus, son of Mary said, “Allahumma (O God) our Lord! Descend from the sky a table (with a banquet) to be a feast (عيدا) for the first and the last of us and a sign from You. Dispense to us , You are the best of dispensers.

              2185
              شَهْرُ رَمَضَانَ ٱلَّذِىٓ أُنزِلَ فِيهِ ٱلْقُرْءَانُ هُدًۭى لِّلنَّاسِ وَبَيِّنَـٰتٍۢ مِّنَ ٱلْهُدَىٰ وَٱلْفُرْقَانِ ۚ فَمَن شَهِدَ مِنكُمُ ٱلشَّهْرَ فَلْيَصُمْهُ ۖ وَمَن كَانَ مَرِيضًا أَوْ عَلَىٰ سَفَرٍۢ فَعِدَّةٌۭ مِّنْ أَيَّامٍ أُخَرَ ۗ يُرِيدُ ٱللَّهُ بِكُمُ ٱلْيُسْرَ وَلَا يُرِيدُ بِكُمُ ٱلْعُسْرَ وَلِتُكْمِلُوا۟ ٱلْعِدَّةَ وَلِتُكَبِّرُوا۟ ٱللَّهَ عَلَىٰ مَا هَدَىٰكُمْ وَلَعَلَّكُمْ تَشْكُرُونَ ١٨٥
              Ramaḍân is the month in which the Quran was revealed as a guide for humanity with clear proofs of guidance and the standard ˹to distinguish between right and wrong˺. So whoever is present this month, let them fast. But whoever is ill or on a journey, then ˹let them fast˺ an equal number of days ˹after Ramaḍân˺. Allah intends ease for you, not hardship, so that you may complete the prescribed period and proclaim the greatness of Allah for guiding you, and perhaps you will be grateful.

              unan an-Nasa'i 1556, Book 19, Hadith 1

              It was narrated that Anas bin Malik said
              “The people of the Jahiliyyah had two days each year when they would play. When the Messenger of Allah (PBUH) came to Al-Madinah he said 'You had two days when you would play, but Allah (PBUH) has given Muslims something instead that is better than them the day of Al-Fitr and the day of Al-Adha.'

              In my view, these are more to do with culture and traditions. Had I lived during prophets time. I would have witnessed many traditions then and would wonder if those are in accordance with quran verses or not but am sure muslims even then during prophet time must have indulged in many traditions and may not directly in conflict with quran so could have allowed.

              The safe approach is to follow Quran where these days or the prayer are not mentioend at all.

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                Jafar
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                In my view, these are more to do with culture and traditions. Had I lived during prophets time. I would have witnessed many traditions then and would wonder if those are in accordance with quran verses or not but am sure muslims even then during prophet time must have indulged in many traditions and may not directly in conflict with quran so could have allowed.

                Here's some interesting food for thoughts

                1. If you lived in the same location and era as Muhammad, let's say Muhammad is your neighbor, you will not have any book titled the Quran. And most probably you will be illiterate to begin with. Then what will be your guide?

                2. Jesus which lived many centuries before Muhammad or Quran being compiled, definitely never ever read the Quran.
                  What will be his guide then?

                If you say the Torah scrolls, which definitely Jesus was exposed to, since his mom was a Jewish priestess, then we can read in the Gospels, how Jesus challenged and questioned the validity of statement within the Torah scrolls.
                Specifically regarding rituals, he did famously said
                "The Sabbath was made for man, not man for the Sabbath."
                Which definitely against the "Holy Law" as written in the Holy Torah scrolls...
                Then where did Jesus get his guidance to make such bold statement?

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                  Fusion
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                  Thanks Jafer, you have a point there in your reply.
                  Yes the compiled Quran may not be there and yes it is not the only means through which a person can gain spiritual guidance or connect with their faith. Additionally, the idea that illiteracy would prevent someone from accessing guidance is also not necessarily true, as oral tradition and community support can play a significant role in transmitting knowledge and wisdom.
                  By the way many Muslims today continue to draw inspiration and guidance from the Quran and other religious texts, even though they live in different eras and locations.
                  Moreover, while Jesus never read the Quran obviously, it is possible that he may have encountered other religious texts or had access to spiritual guidance in other forms. For example, he would have been familiar with the Hebrew Bible, as you have also pointed out, and the traditions of Judaism, which may have influenced his teachings and beliefs.
                  It is true that Jesus was raised in a Jewish family and would have been familiar with the Torah and other Jewish texts. As you mentioned, the Gospels do contain accounts of Jesus challenging some of the religious laws and traditions of his time, including the Sabbath laws. It is also worth noting that Jesus' teachings emphasized compassion, love, and forgiveness, and he often emphasized the spirit of the law over the letter of the law.
                  While it is impossible to say for certain where Jesus received his guidance or inspiration, many Christians believe that he was guided by God and received divine revelation. They also believe that his teachings and actions were consistent with the will of God and the principles of love and compassion that are central to their faith.
                  It is also possible that Jesus drew inspiration from other sources, such as the teachings of other Jewish scholars or the wisdom of the prophetic tradition. However, the exact source of his guidance remains a matter of interpretation and belief.
                  Most of us here believe in Quran as the source of knowledge and guidance from God and Quran did mention all your questions in many verses and also explain the story of Jesus as a whole and also how Quran was revealed to the prophet and how his companions knew about the contents of Quran from Prophets teachings.
                  thanks

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