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Why do miracles not happen in our time

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  • Emre_1974trE Offline
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    Emre_1974tr
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    salam

    i understand the answer as to why the “signs” are not given anymore lies in 1759

    “and what has prevented Us from sending signs except that the former peoples denied them and We gave thamud the she-camel visible, but they wronged her and We send not the signs except to make them fearful” (1759)

    peace

    Wrong translation, the verse says the opposite.

    Real translation

    1759 The rejection of previous people did not stop Us from sending the signs. We sent to Thamud the camel with foresight, but they did her wrong. We do not send the signs except to alert

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      tutti_frutti
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      #42

      salam

      nope your translation is incorrect - for info i read it in arabic

      peace

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        Emre_1974tr
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        Real translation

        1759 The rejection of previous people did not stop Us from sending the signs. We sent to Thamud the camel with foresight, but they did her wrong. We do not send the signs except to alert

        Native Arabic speakers to the task. Write the correct translation of the verse.

        Edip Yuksel made the following explanation after translating I have given above "Traditional translations render the meaning of "Ma" as a relative pronoun rather than a negative particle, "What stopped us from sending…." The traditional translation implies that God initially sent signs/miracles to convert people and had an intention to send more signs but He is now disappointed to learn that His signs did not work as expected. Such an implication contradicts the attributes of God detailed in the Quran. Besides, we are repeatedly reminded that the purpose of sending signs/miracles has never been to make people acknowledge the message, but to support the open-minded people in their rational inquiries. The traditional translation also contradicts other verses of the Quran that remind us that messengers were supported by signs/miracles."

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          tutti_frutti
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          #44

          salam,

          if you want, we can just look at the word “il’la” in the verse which means “except that” to understand the verse

          for me was clear, the previous ones rejected the signs so He stopped sending “those kind” of signs

          He is not “disapponted” He knows everything He creates the future… remember He says in ch 36 the Quran is so the word (hell?) is justified against the rejecters, perhaps same thing for the signs… they rejected them so they have no case for themselves

          is He “disappointed” if people go to hell? no, He knows who He sends there and who He sends to paradise, He decides… so its not a question of being “disappointed” but i think to justify hell on the rejectors and paradise on the believing good doers

          of course only He knows and i may be wrong along the whole line

          peace

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            Noon_waalqalami
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            #45

            if you want, we can just look at the word “il’la” in the verse which means “except that” to understand the verse

            for me was clear, the previous ones rejected the signs so He stopped sending “those kind” of signs

            peace tutti

            إِلَّا (ʾillā) except, save, unless, less, only, but, other than, besides, despite

            1759 وما and not منعنا prevent us ان that نرسل we send بالاىت in the signs الا despite ان that كذب denied بها in them الاولون the former generations

            7th line https//corpuscoranicum.de/en/verse-navigator/sura/17/verse/59/manuscripts/107/page/2r

            of course, we still receive "signs" like to understand a verse better e.g.,
            meaning of extra letter م in 412 ما ma/what vs. مما mimma/from what

            or the signs looking at the trillion stars in our galaxy and the 100s of billions of galaxies in our visible universe or life in general e.g., stem cells, DNA 4-bit chemical code, or ~37 trillion cells in the human body each which contain the complete blueprints to make a another you!

            3022 ومن and of اىته signs his خلق creation السموت the skies والارض and the land واختلف and divergences السنتكم the tongues (languages) yours والانكم and the colors (qualities) yours ان indeed فى in ذلك such لاىت surely signs للعلمىن for the knowledgeable

            or the signs of future events that unfold as dreamt

            3023 ومن and of اىته signs his منمكم sleep/dream yours بالىل in the night والنهر and the daytime وابتغوكم and pursues ye yours من of فضله bounty his ان indeed فى in ذلك such لاىت surely signs لقوم for folk ىسمعون hearing

            a favorite "Hi everyone, my name is Caesar!" wow
            https//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=13232.msg110315#msg110315

            It's been a few months since the last one, it usually happens before a trip peace

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              Wakas
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              #46

              By the way, Miraj may also be real. There are one or two verses that point to it.

              I recommend reading the analysis of 171 here
              https//mypercept.co.uk/articles/meaning-masjid-al-haram-Quran.html

              All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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                good_logic
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                Like brother Hawk asked me before in this thread and I replied that GOD does not do miracles to boast,show off or play games with us.And to GOD they are not miracles anyway.
                GOD is not a narcissist or a show off or putting on a show for His creation Like some top Scientist -say Einstein or..- challenging a 5 year old child with a rocket science equations.
                GOD does everything for a " GOOD REASON" to teach us about His traits ,power and ways. Some of these things are way above our intellect to grasp comprehend or understand with our incomplete knowledge. GOD is capable of creating for a good reason and everything done has a need for other things done by GOD. So we are the ones translating "Aayat/s" into "miracles.

                So they are impossible things for us to do or comprehend how they were made/done.
                Our take on what GOD is saying needs correction of attitude and more knowledge/pondering and insight..
                GOD bless you all.
                Peace.

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                  Wakas
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                  Could it be because we are near the very end? Maybe the only miracle we'll witness is the day of judgment? Because why would God give so many past nations miracles yet leave us with none?

                  Some say our miracle is The Quran. You may find the first article I ever wrote interesting
                  https//mypercept.co.uk/articles/Does_God_Exist_home.htm

                  This equates to a “1 in ten thousand billion billion” chance of this event occurring.

                  All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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