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Word count and amazing symmetries

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    Mazhar
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    Symmetries

    Statistics by 19 First division
    8 Odd 11 even without haroof added
    12 odd 7 even with haroof added

    2nd division
    12 Odd 7 even without haroof added
    10 odd 9 even with haroof added

    third division
    11 Odd 8 even without haroof added
    10 odd 9 even with haroof added

    Fourth division
    8 Odd 11 even without haroof added
    7 odd 12 even with haroof added

    Fifth division
    10 Odd 9 even without haroof added

    Sixth division
    8 Odd 11 even without haroof added

    https//haqeeqat.pk/quran/sohail.html

    Next data entry will be of unique words.
    Next will be data entry of grammatical units of entire text (like codons in human genome)
    Next will be breaking to letter and vowels level.
    Next syllables ---sonic - speech signature.

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      Statistics by 19 First division

      What is amazing about this?
      Why you omit 112 bismillah?
      Are you obsessed with 19?
      Which text are you using?

      https//www.free-minds.org/sites/default/files/WhichQuran.pdf

      Why two words wa-in?
      223 وَ
      223 إِن

      Why single word fa-in?
      224 فَإِن

      Contradiction, did you apply consistently for each word?

      261 وَّكَانُوا۟

      289 وَ
      289 كَانُوا۟

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        Mazhar
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        What is amazing about this?
        Why you omit 112 bismillah?
        Are you obsessed with 19?
        Which text are you using?

        https//www.free-minds.org/sites/default/files/WhichQuran.pdf

        Why two words wa-in?
        223 وَ
        223 إِن

        Why single word fa-in?
        224 فَإِن

        Contradiction, did you apply consistently for each word?

        261 وَّكَانُوا۟

        289 وَ
        289 كَانُوا۟

        112 Bism is not formal part of text.
        Waw is a separate word.

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          Mazhar
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          No obsession about digits.

          RASHAD KHALIFA INTELLECTUAL DISHONESTY AND DECEIT EXPOSED

          https//haqeeqat.pk/RashadKhalifa-Preface.htm

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            Mazhar
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            Why single word fa-in?
            224 فَإِن

            This particle is not written separately. It will come in the segmentation by letters of alphabet.

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              112 Bism is not formal part of text.
              Waw is a separate word.

              not formal revelation only decoration?
              you ignored answering inconsistencies?

              261 وَّكَانُوا۟ 1063 1094 wakānū

              547 وَلْيَحْكُمْ 1346 16527 walyahkum

              823 وَّهُم 369 25845 wahum

              872 وَّنَصَرُوٓا۟ 1317 26793 wanasarū

              976 وَّهُم 1679 28575 wahum

              1335 وَّعُقْبَى 812 36669 wauqbā

              1886 وَوَجَدَ 1429 43746 wawajada

              2278 وَجَـٰهِدُوا۟ 1388 49333 wajāhidū

              2864 وَرَأَوُا۟ 1126 56911 wara-awū

              3803 وَّلَاتَ 20 65539 walāta

              6406 وَّٱسْتَغْنَى 91 80624 wa-istaghnā

              7306 وَطْـًۭٔا 29 83241 watan

              even with above 50/50 chance symmetrical

              if off by one or two simply modify to force it

              creative human accounting not miraculous

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                Mazhar
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                not formal revelation only decoration?
                you ignored answering inconsistencies?

                261 وَّكَانُوا۟ 1063 1094 wakānū

                547 وَلْيَحْكُمْ 1346 16527 walyahkum

                823 وَّهُم 369 25845 wahum

                872 وَّنَصَرُوٓا۟ 1317 26793 wanasarū

                976 وَّهُم 1679 28575 wahum

                1335 وَّعُقْبَى 812 36669 wauqbā

                1886 وَوَجَدَ 1429 43746 wawajada

                2278 وَجَـٰهِدُوا۟ 1388 49333 wajāhidū

                2864 وَرَأَوُا۟ 1126 56911 wara-awū

                3803 وَّلَاتَ 20 65539 walāta

                6406 وَّٱسْتَغْنَى 91 80624 wa-istaghnā

                7306 وَطْـًۭٔا 29 83241 watan

                even with above 50/50 chance symmetrical

                if off by one or two simply modify to force it

                creative human accounting not miraculous

                Waw as conjunction particle needs to be counted as word since it is a complete word. Some errors in posting are expected.

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                  547 وَلْيَحْكُمْ 1346 16527

                  Posting error
                  5104 وَ 2708 17889
                  5104 جَدْنَا 2709 17890
                  It is one word.

                  Total remains the same after correcting posting error.

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                    Mazhar
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                    Waw as conjunction particle needs to be counted as word since it is a complete word. Some errors in posting are expected.

                    Thanks Nun de plume

                    Computer assistant has made some errors in posting in html. Otherwise I had done this work manually and by posting images. Ayah by Ayah and numbering each word.

                    https//haqeeqat.pk/English%20Tafsir%20e%20Haqeeqat/000.%20Encyclopaedia%20of%20Arabic%20of%20Qur'aan/01.%20Aayaat-Word%20by%20Word%20analysis%20and%20translation/01.%20Word%20by%20Word%20Analysis-Translation.htm

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                      547 وَلْيَحْكُمْ 1346 16527

                      Posting error
                      5104 وَ 2708 17889
                      5104 جَدْنَا 2709 17890
                      It is one word.

                      Total remains the same after correcting posting error.

                      check diacritics for consistency

                      5104 وَ 2708 17889
                      5104 جَدْنَا 2709 17890

                      728 وَجَدْنَا 374 22153
                      744 وَجَدْنَا 752 22531
                      7102 وَجَدْنَا 1818 23597
                      7102 وَجَدْنَآ 1824 23603
                      1078 وَجَدْنَا 1491 31238
                      1279 وَجَدْنَا 1384 35283
                      2153 وَجَدْنَآ 642 47265
                      2674 وَجَدْنَآ 522 53575
                      3121 وَجَدْنَا 341 59729

                      3844 وَ 499 66018
                      3844 جَدْنَـٰهُ 500 66019

                      4322 وَجَدْنَآ 212 71041
                      4323 وَجَدْنَآ 235 71064

                      5136 وَ 192 75664
                      5136 جَدْنَا 193 75665

                      6406 وَّٱسْتَغْنَى 91 80624

                      9208 وَ 32 86163
                      9208 ٱسْتَغْنَىٰ 33 86164

                      Thanks Nun de plume

                      Computer assistant has made some errors in posting in html. Otherwise I had done this work manually and by posting images. Ayah by Ayah and numbering each word.

                      https//haqeeqat.pk/English%20Tafsir%20e%20Haqeeqat/000.%20Encyclopaedia%20of%20Arabic%20of%20Qur'aan/01.%20Aayaat-Word%20by%20Word%20analysis%20and%20translation/01.%20Word%20by%20Word%20Analysis-Translation.htm

                      either way no point other than word check
                      total words are odd/even or 50/50 chance

                      take care

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                        check diacritics for consistency

                        5104 وَ 2708 17889
                        5104 جَدْنَا 2709 17890

                        728 وَجَدْنَا 374 22153
                        744 وَجَدْنَا 752 22531
                        7102 وَجَدْنَا 1818 23597
                        7102 وَجَدْنَآ 1824 23603
                        1078 وَجَدْنَا 1491 31238
                        1279 وَجَدْنَا 1384 35283
                        2153 وَجَدْنَآ 642 47265
                        2674 وَجَدْنَآ 522 53575
                        3121 وَجَدْنَا 341 59729

                        3844 وَ 499 66018
                        3844 جَدْنَـٰهُ 500 66019

                        4322 وَجَدْنَآ 212 71041
                        4323 وَجَدْنَآ 235 71064

                        5136 وَ 192 75664
                        5136 جَدْنَا 193 75665

                        6406 وَّٱسْتَغْنَى 91 80624

                        9208 وَ 32 86163
                        9208 ٱسْتَغْنَىٰ 33 86164

                        either way no point other than word check
                        total words are odd/even or 50/50 chance

                        take care

                        Many thanks. It helped correcting the middle entries.
                        0--1 It has to be 1 --hundred percent correct.
                        https//haqeeqat.pk/English%20Tafsir%20e%20Haqeeqat/00.Arabic%20Text/039.%20Az%20Zumar/Temp%2001%2039.23f.gif

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                          Thanks Nun
                          I have corrected the mistakes you pointed out, and uploaded. Grateful

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                            Mazhar
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                            I request those who usually read Qur'an, do please skim/read word by word from here. It will help cross check to detect if there is some mistake.

                            This is the first ever statistical data which is numbered and is verifiable by anyone. No guess work. Solid data. It will serve as base for forensic analysis.

                            Thanks in advance

                            https//haqeeqat.pk/quran/sohail.html

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                              Mazhar
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                              Ayah W.P Word S# Surah S#

                              Sr No of Qur'an

                              Sr No in Sura

                              Word

                              Progressive No

                              Sura and Ayah No

                              ٱلْحَمْدُ لِلَّهِ

                              Done. Request checking.

                              http//haqeeqat.pk/quran/sohail.html

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