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Word count and amazing symmetries

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    Nom_de_plume
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    Statistics by 19 First division

    What is amazing about this?
    Why you omit 112 bismillah?
    Are you obsessed with 19?
    Which text are you using?

    https//www.free-minds.org/sites/default/files/WhichQuran.pdf

    Why two words wa-in?
    223 وَ
    223 إِن

    Why single word fa-in?
    224 فَإِن

    Contradiction, did you apply consistently for each word?

    261 وَّكَانُوا۟

    289 وَ
    289 كَانُوا۟

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      What is amazing about this?
      Why you omit 112 bismillah?
      Are you obsessed with 19?
      Which text are you using?

      https//www.free-minds.org/sites/default/files/WhichQuran.pdf

      Why two words wa-in?
      223 وَ
      223 إِن

      Why single word fa-in?
      224 فَإِن

      Contradiction, did you apply consistently for each word?

      261 وَّكَانُوا۟

      289 وَ
      289 كَانُوا۟

      112 Bism is not formal part of text.
      Waw is a separate word.

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        Mazhar
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        No obsession about digits.

        RASHAD KHALIFA INTELLECTUAL DISHONESTY AND DECEIT EXPOSED

        https//haqeeqat.pk/RashadKhalifa-Preface.htm

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          Mazhar
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          Why single word fa-in?
          224 فَإِن

          This particle is not written separately. It will come in the segmentation by letters of alphabet.

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            112 Bism is not formal part of text.
            Waw is a separate word.

            not formal revelation only decoration?
            you ignored answering inconsistencies?

            261 وَّكَانُوا۟ 1063 1094 wakānū

            547 وَلْيَحْكُمْ 1346 16527 walyahkum

            823 وَّهُم 369 25845 wahum

            872 وَّنَصَرُوٓا۟ 1317 26793 wanasarū

            976 وَّهُم 1679 28575 wahum

            1335 وَّعُقْبَى 812 36669 wauqbā

            1886 وَوَجَدَ 1429 43746 wawajada

            2278 وَجَـٰهِدُوا۟ 1388 49333 wajāhidū

            2864 وَرَأَوُا۟ 1126 56911 wara-awū

            3803 وَّلَاتَ 20 65539 walāta

            6406 وَّٱسْتَغْنَى 91 80624 wa-istaghnā

            7306 وَطْـًۭٔا 29 83241 watan

            even with above 50/50 chance symmetrical

            if off by one or two simply modify to force it

            creative human accounting not miraculous

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              not formal revelation only decoration?
              you ignored answering inconsistencies?

              261 وَّكَانُوا۟ 1063 1094 wakānū

              547 وَلْيَحْكُمْ 1346 16527 walyahkum

              823 وَّهُم 369 25845 wahum

              872 وَّنَصَرُوٓا۟ 1317 26793 wanasarū

              976 وَّهُم 1679 28575 wahum

              1335 وَّعُقْبَى 812 36669 wauqbā

              1886 وَوَجَدَ 1429 43746 wawajada

              2278 وَجَـٰهِدُوا۟ 1388 49333 wajāhidū

              2864 وَرَأَوُا۟ 1126 56911 wara-awū

              3803 وَّلَاتَ 20 65539 walāta

              6406 وَّٱسْتَغْنَى 91 80624 wa-istaghnā

              7306 وَطْـًۭٔا 29 83241 watan

              even with above 50/50 chance symmetrical

              if off by one or two simply modify to force it

              creative human accounting not miraculous

              Waw as conjunction particle needs to be counted as word since it is a complete word. Some errors in posting are expected.

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                547 وَلْيَحْكُمْ 1346 16527

                Posting error
                5104 وَ 2708 17889
                5104 جَدْنَا 2709 17890
                It is one word.

                Total remains the same after correcting posting error.

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                  Waw as conjunction particle needs to be counted as word since it is a complete word. Some errors in posting are expected.

                  Thanks Nun de plume

                  Computer assistant has made some errors in posting in html. Otherwise I had done this work manually and by posting images. Ayah by Ayah and numbering each word.

                  https//haqeeqat.pk/English%20Tafsir%20e%20Haqeeqat/000.%20Encyclopaedia%20of%20Arabic%20of%20Qur'aan/01.%20Aayaat-Word%20by%20Word%20analysis%20and%20translation/01.%20Word%20by%20Word%20Analysis-Translation.htm

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                    547 وَلْيَحْكُمْ 1346 16527

                    Posting error
                    5104 وَ 2708 17889
                    5104 جَدْنَا 2709 17890
                    It is one word.

                    Total remains the same after correcting posting error.

                    check diacritics for consistency

                    5104 وَ 2708 17889
                    5104 جَدْنَا 2709 17890

                    728 وَجَدْنَا 374 22153
                    744 وَجَدْنَا 752 22531
                    7102 وَجَدْنَا 1818 23597
                    7102 وَجَدْنَآ 1824 23603
                    1078 وَجَدْنَا 1491 31238
                    1279 وَجَدْنَا 1384 35283
                    2153 وَجَدْنَآ 642 47265
                    2674 وَجَدْنَآ 522 53575
                    3121 وَجَدْنَا 341 59729

                    3844 وَ 499 66018
                    3844 جَدْنَـٰهُ 500 66019

                    4322 وَجَدْنَآ 212 71041
                    4323 وَجَدْنَآ 235 71064

                    5136 وَ 192 75664
                    5136 جَدْنَا 193 75665

                    6406 وَّٱسْتَغْنَى 91 80624

                    9208 وَ 32 86163
                    9208 ٱسْتَغْنَىٰ 33 86164

                    Thanks Nun de plume

                    Computer assistant has made some errors in posting in html. Otherwise I had done this work manually and by posting images. Ayah by Ayah and numbering each word.

                    https//haqeeqat.pk/English%20Tafsir%20e%20Haqeeqat/000.%20Encyclopaedia%20of%20Arabic%20of%20Qur'aan/01.%20Aayaat-Word%20by%20Word%20analysis%20and%20translation/01.%20Word%20by%20Word%20Analysis-Translation.htm

                    either way no point other than word check
                    total words are odd/even or 50/50 chance

                    take care

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                      check diacritics for consistency

                      5104 وَ 2708 17889
                      5104 جَدْنَا 2709 17890

                      728 وَجَدْنَا 374 22153
                      744 وَجَدْنَا 752 22531
                      7102 وَجَدْنَا 1818 23597
                      7102 وَجَدْنَآ 1824 23603
                      1078 وَجَدْنَا 1491 31238
                      1279 وَجَدْنَا 1384 35283
                      2153 وَجَدْنَآ 642 47265
                      2674 وَجَدْنَآ 522 53575
                      3121 وَجَدْنَا 341 59729

                      3844 وَ 499 66018
                      3844 جَدْنَـٰهُ 500 66019

                      4322 وَجَدْنَآ 212 71041
                      4323 وَجَدْنَآ 235 71064

                      5136 وَ 192 75664
                      5136 جَدْنَا 193 75665

                      6406 وَّٱسْتَغْنَى 91 80624

                      9208 وَ 32 86163
                      9208 ٱسْتَغْنَىٰ 33 86164

                      either way no point other than word check
                      total words are odd/even or 50/50 chance

                      take care

                      Many thanks. It helped correcting the middle entries.
                      0--1 It has to be 1 --hundred percent correct.
                      https//haqeeqat.pk/English%20Tafsir%20e%20Haqeeqat/00.Arabic%20Text/039.%20Az%20Zumar/Temp%2001%2039.23f.gif

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                        Thanks Nun
                        I have corrected the mistakes you pointed out, and uploaded. Grateful

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                          I request those who usually read Qur'an, do please skim/read word by word from here. It will help cross check to detect if there is some mistake.

                          This is the first ever statistical data which is numbered and is verifiable by anyone. No guess work. Solid data. It will serve as base for forensic analysis.

                          Thanks in advance

                          https//haqeeqat.pk/quran/sohail.html

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                            Ayah W.P Word S# Surah S#

                            Sr No of Qur'an

                            Sr No in Sura

                            Word

                            Progressive No

                            Sura and Ayah No

                            ٱلْحَمْدُ لِلَّهِ

                            Done. Request checking.

                            http//haqeeqat.pk/quran/sohail.html

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