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Word count and amazing symmetries

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    Mazhar
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    What is amazing about this?
    Why you omit 112 bismillah?
    Are you obsessed with 19?
    Which text are you using?

    https//www.free-minds.org/sites/default/files/WhichQuran.pdf

    Why two words wa-in?
    223 وَ
    223 إِن

    Why single word fa-in?
    224 فَإِن

    Contradiction, did you apply consistently for each word?

    261 وَّكَانُوا۟

    289 وَ
    289 كَانُوا۟

    112 Bism is not formal part of text.
    Waw is a separate word.

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      Mazhar
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      #5

      No obsession about digits.

      RASHAD KHALIFA INTELLECTUAL DISHONESTY AND DECEIT EXPOSED

      https//haqeeqat.pk/RashadKhalifa-Preface.htm

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        Mazhar
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        Why single word fa-in?
        224 فَإِن

        This particle is not written separately. It will come in the segmentation by letters of alphabet.

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          Nom_de_plume
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          #7

          112 Bism is not formal part of text.
          Waw is a separate word.

          not formal revelation only decoration?
          you ignored answering inconsistencies?

          261 وَّكَانُوا۟ 1063 1094 wakānū

          547 وَلْيَحْكُمْ 1346 16527 walyahkum

          823 وَّهُم 369 25845 wahum

          872 وَّنَصَرُوٓا۟ 1317 26793 wanasarū

          976 وَّهُم 1679 28575 wahum

          1335 وَّعُقْبَى 812 36669 wauqbā

          1886 وَوَجَدَ 1429 43746 wawajada

          2278 وَجَـٰهِدُوا۟ 1388 49333 wajāhidū

          2864 وَرَأَوُا۟ 1126 56911 wara-awū

          3803 وَّلَاتَ 20 65539 walāta

          6406 وَّٱسْتَغْنَى 91 80624 wa-istaghnā

          7306 وَطْـًۭٔا 29 83241 watan

          even with above 50/50 chance symmetrical

          if off by one or two simply modify to force it

          creative human accounting not miraculous

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            Mazhar
            wrote on last edited by
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            not formal revelation only decoration?
            you ignored answering inconsistencies?

            261 وَّكَانُوا۟ 1063 1094 wakānū

            547 وَلْيَحْكُمْ 1346 16527 walyahkum

            823 وَّهُم 369 25845 wahum

            872 وَّنَصَرُوٓا۟ 1317 26793 wanasarū

            976 وَّهُم 1679 28575 wahum

            1335 وَّعُقْبَى 812 36669 wauqbā

            1886 وَوَجَدَ 1429 43746 wawajada

            2278 وَجَـٰهِدُوا۟ 1388 49333 wajāhidū

            2864 وَرَأَوُا۟ 1126 56911 wara-awū

            3803 وَّلَاتَ 20 65539 walāta

            6406 وَّٱسْتَغْنَى 91 80624 wa-istaghnā

            7306 وَطْـًۭٔا 29 83241 watan

            even with above 50/50 chance symmetrical

            if off by one or two simply modify to force it

            creative human accounting not miraculous

            Waw as conjunction particle needs to be counted as word since it is a complete word. Some errors in posting are expected.

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              Mazhar
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              547 وَلْيَحْكُمْ 1346 16527

              Posting error
              5104 وَ 2708 17889
              5104 جَدْنَا 2709 17890
              It is one word.

              Total remains the same after correcting posting error.

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                Mazhar
                wrote on last edited by
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                Waw as conjunction particle needs to be counted as word since it is a complete word. Some errors in posting are expected.

                Thanks Nun de plume

                Computer assistant has made some errors in posting in html. Otherwise I had done this work manually and by posting images. Ayah by Ayah and numbering each word.

                https//haqeeqat.pk/English%20Tafsir%20e%20Haqeeqat/000.%20Encyclopaedia%20of%20Arabic%20of%20Qur'aan/01.%20Aayaat-Word%20by%20Word%20analysis%20and%20translation/01.%20Word%20by%20Word%20Analysis-Translation.htm

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                  #11

                  547 وَلْيَحْكُمْ 1346 16527

                  Posting error
                  5104 وَ 2708 17889
                  5104 جَدْنَا 2709 17890
                  It is one word.

                  Total remains the same after correcting posting error.

                  check diacritics for consistency

                  5104 وَ 2708 17889
                  5104 جَدْنَا 2709 17890

                  728 وَجَدْنَا 374 22153
                  744 وَجَدْنَا 752 22531
                  7102 وَجَدْنَا 1818 23597
                  7102 وَجَدْنَآ 1824 23603
                  1078 وَجَدْنَا 1491 31238
                  1279 وَجَدْنَا 1384 35283
                  2153 وَجَدْنَآ 642 47265
                  2674 وَجَدْنَآ 522 53575
                  3121 وَجَدْنَا 341 59729

                  3844 وَ 499 66018
                  3844 جَدْنَـٰهُ 500 66019

                  4322 وَجَدْنَآ 212 71041
                  4323 وَجَدْنَآ 235 71064

                  5136 وَ 192 75664
                  5136 جَدْنَا 193 75665

                  6406 وَّٱسْتَغْنَى 91 80624

                  9208 وَ 32 86163
                  9208 ٱسْتَغْنَىٰ 33 86164

                  Thanks Nun de plume

                  Computer assistant has made some errors in posting in html. Otherwise I had done this work manually and by posting images. Ayah by Ayah and numbering each word.

                  https//haqeeqat.pk/English%20Tafsir%20e%20Haqeeqat/000.%20Encyclopaedia%20of%20Arabic%20of%20Qur'aan/01.%20Aayaat-Word%20by%20Word%20analysis%20and%20translation/01.%20Word%20by%20Word%20Analysis-Translation.htm

                  either way no point other than word check
                  total words are odd/even or 50/50 chance

                  take care

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                    Mazhar
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                    check diacritics for consistency

                    5104 وَ 2708 17889
                    5104 جَدْنَا 2709 17890

                    728 وَجَدْنَا 374 22153
                    744 وَجَدْنَا 752 22531
                    7102 وَجَدْنَا 1818 23597
                    7102 وَجَدْنَآ 1824 23603
                    1078 وَجَدْنَا 1491 31238
                    1279 وَجَدْنَا 1384 35283
                    2153 وَجَدْنَآ 642 47265
                    2674 وَجَدْنَآ 522 53575
                    3121 وَجَدْنَا 341 59729

                    3844 وَ 499 66018
                    3844 جَدْنَـٰهُ 500 66019

                    4322 وَجَدْنَآ 212 71041
                    4323 وَجَدْنَآ 235 71064

                    5136 وَ 192 75664
                    5136 جَدْنَا 193 75665

                    6406 وَّٱسْتَغْنَى 91 80624

                    9208 وَ 32 86163
                    9208 ٱسْتَغْنَىٰ 33 86164

                    either way no point other than word check
                    total words are odd/even or 50/50 chance

                    take care

                    Many thanks. It helped correcting the middle entries.
                    0--1 It has to be 1 --hundred percent correct.
                    https//haqeeqat.pk/English%20Tafsir%20e%20Haqeeqat/00.Arabic%20Text/039.%20Az%20Zumar/Temp%2001%2039.23f.gif

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                      Mazhar
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                      #13

                      Thanks Nun
                      I have corrected the mistakes you pointed out, and uploaded. Grateful

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                        Mazhar
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                        #14

                        I request those who usually read Qur'an, do please skim/read word by word from here. It will help cross check to detect if there is some mistake.

                        This is the first ever statistical data which is numbered and is verifiable by anyone. No guess work. Solid data. It will serve as base for forensic analysis.

                        Thanks in advance

                        https//haqeeqat.pk/quran/sohail.html

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                          Mazhar
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                          Ayah W.P Word S# Surah S#

                          Sr No of Qur'an

                          Sr No in Sura

                          Word

                          Progressive No

                          Sura and Ayah No

                          ٱلْحَمْدُ لِلَّهِ

                          Done. Request checking.

                          http//haqeeqat.pk/quran/sohail.html

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