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The real Mecca is Sana’a, Yemen and the real Ka’bah is in Jami’ al-Kabir

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    Sadaqah1
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    Please watch the video and give your thoughts. There was an old user on this forum called “Pazuzu” who said something similar back in 2012. https//youtu.be/oZYH2OM_3ZY

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      Salam Sadaqah1,

      Please watch the video and give your thoughts. There was an old user on this forum called “Pazuzu” who said something similar back in 2012. https//youtu.be/oZYH2OM_3ZY

      I once read some Pazuzu writings and were very interesting. I agree that the land of the prophets was in Yemen.

      But I think making the Cube House as the reference is a bad idea.

      Allah uses many parables in the Quran to explain His verses,

      2533 And for every parable they come to you with, We bring you the truth and the best explanation.

      let me show you a parable regarding the House or Bayt,

      2941 The parable of those who take protectors other than Allah is that of the spider, who builds (to itself) a house<baytan>; but truly the weakest of houses <buyuti>is the spider's house <baytu>;- if they but knew.

      So in this parable, god's existence is described as a house. Where the Polytheist belief is likened to a weak house, a spider's house.

      2943 And such are the Parables We set forth for mankind, but only those understand them who have knowledge.

      This is not knowledge known by many people.

      This verse has described the Polytheism belief as weakest house metaphorically. So we knew that when a verse talk about a house or bayt, followed by a statement regarding either polytheism or monotheism, the house(s) or bayt there must be understood metaphorically.

      Let me show you another example,

      1626 Those before them had schemed, so God came to their buildings from the foundation, thus the roof fell on top of them; and the retribution came to them from where they did not know.

      1627 Then, on the Day of Resurrection He will humiliate them, and say "Where are My partners regarding whom you used to dispute?" Those who have received the knowledge said "The humiliation today and the misery are upon the rejecters."

      Since 1627 talk abut partner besides Gods, then building in 1627 is not a physical building. It's a parable for polytheism belief.

      Now let me show you the house that is the opposite of this polytheist house,

      2436 In houses that God has permitted to be raised, and His name mentioned in them. He is glorified therein in the mornings and the evenings.

      Of course this is not a physical cube house, like the one in Saudi Arabia or whatever is believed to be in Yemen.

      This is a monotheism house that was raised by the basics of our father Ibrahim and his son Ismail, regardless their location,

      2127 And it was so, that Ibrahim was raising the foundations for the House, and Ishmael "Our Lord accept this from us, You are the Hearer, the Knowledgeable."

      2226 And We have appointed to Ibrahim the location of the House "Do not set up anyone with Me, and purify My House for those who visit, and those who are standing, and the humbling, and the submitting."

      So as you can see, THE HOUSE founded by Ibrahim and Ismail is not a physical house in the form of a cube. But it was a MONOTHEISM HOUSE, a strong house as opposed to a weak polytheist's house which just like a spider house

      2125 And it was so, that We have made the House to be a model for the people and a place of safety.

      397 In it are clear signs the station of Ibrahim. And whoever enters it will have safety. And God is owed from the people to make Pilgrimage to the House, whoever can make a way to it. And whoever rejects, then God has no need of the worlds.

      What house in this world can provide safety to the people who enter it?

      Can all humans in this world enter the house simultaneously to get safe?

      What safety can be provided by a cube house in Saudi Arabia?

      Only THE HOUSE OF MONOTHEISM can make everyone who enter it will be safe.

      The monotheism house which its foundation was raised by our father Ibrahim and Ismail.

      With this understanding, I will re -translate the verse about Mecca for you ...

      4824 And He is the One who withheld their hands against you, and your hands against them in unapparent destruction <bi batni makkata>, after He had made you victorious over them. God is Seer of what you do.

      = Miim-Kaf-Kaf = Sucking, Sucking up, Absorbing, drinking up, Destruction/Destroying, diminishing, diminution/failing; failure, to cast, to throw away, to discard, to straighten/tighten or impede/restrict, to beseech/ask/accept, crowding, competition (izdihaam). Makkah (city of).

      And also for the Bakkah,

      inna
      indeed

      awwala
      Alif-Waw-Lam - its origin or source; his or its original state,

      baytin
      house (of monotheism)

      wudhi'a
      Waw-Dad-Ayn = the proper place of a thing.

      lilnnāsi
      for the mankind

      lalladhī
      those who

      bibakkata
      = Ba-Kaf-Kaf (e.g. bakka) = distinguishing/ranking above others

      mubārakan
      blessed

      wahudan
      and a guidance

      lil'ālamīna
      for the worlds.

      396 Indeed, something that originated from monotheism (baytin) is a proper place for people who in the difference with another (in beliefs), which is blessed, and guidance for whole worlds.

      Monotheism that unites all of us, which might comes from different creed and different sharia (ways). Therefore we are called to HAJJ so that each of us realizes that we are not alone in serving God Almighty, God Alone.

      In other words, if you deal with another monotheism beliefs, lets get back to the words, There's no God but Allah. No need to argue, especially during Hajj.

      And stop seeking for Makka and Bakka city, just translate them as appropriate.. It;s not "where", but it's "what"

      Peace

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