Slavery: Why does the Quran not issue a direct prohibition on slavery?
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Still seems contradictory. For your view to hold
- drb al riqab is an unevidenced/baseless idiom
- seems to contradict
- requires an unusual translation of "shuddu al wathaq"
- seemingly ignores cross-reference of shuddu which requires a pre-existing thing to strengthen
No thanks. I'll stick with my understanding.
- Put forth the necks (?)
Good luck with that explanation.
Salaam
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peace,
- Put forth the necks (?)
Good luck with that explanation.
Not sure why you translate it as necks when in your own translation you take it as "prisoners". Necks in your translation would make yours even worse.
In any case as I have already mentioned above it doesn't mean necks in Quran.
And explained above also
By "bring forth the captives" I take "bring forth" to mean the same I do for mathal/example. When an example is put forth, or shown forth, or propounded, or cited, or brought about, it is brought from non-existence to existence or from non-attention to attention.
In other words captives are brought about, or more simply, as you put it "take captives".
Hence why I said, quote "One meaning of DaRaBa found in Lane's Lexicon is "he made or caused to be or constituted" which is similar to the suggested meaning discussed above." - Put forth the necks (?)
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By "bring forth the captives" I take "bring forth" to mean the same I do for mathal/example. When an example is put forth, or shown forth, or propounded, or cited, or brought about, it is brought from non-existence to existence or from non-attention to attention.
In other words captives are brought about, or more simply, as you put it "take captives".
Hence why I said, quote "One meaning of DaRaBa found in Lane's Lexicon is "he made or caused to be or constituted" which is similar to the suggested meaning discussed above."Salaam,
How to bring forth "the captives", not bind them?
Back then a single captive could take 1-2 guards.The Battle of Firaz. Khalid ibn al-Waleed wipes out an army 10x his size.
https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pj4KpbVyNn8Likewise Lane's (ضرب)
… And ضَرَبْتُ عُنُقَهُ ; and الأَعْنَاقَ ↓ ضَرَّبْتُ ; the teshdeed denoting muchness or multiplicity AZ says that, when the object is one, the Arabs use only the former verb, without teshdeed; but when there is a plurality of objects, either of the verbs; (Msb one says, ضَرَبُوا أَعْنَاقَهُمْ , and أَمَرَ الرِّقَابِ ↓ بِتَضْرِيبِ (A فَضَرْبَ الرِّقَابِ in the Kur xlvii. 4 is originally فَاضْرِبُوا الرِّقَابَ ضَرْبًا ; (Bd the inf. n. being here put for its verb. (Jel.)
…ضَرَبَ عَنْهُ (assumed tropical He turned away a person or thing from him ; as also ↓ اضرب (TA عنه ↓ اضرب signifies, (S, Msb,) or signifies also, (TA,) and (Msb, TA) so does ضَرَبَ عنه, (Msb, K, TA,) (assumed tropical He turned away from, avoided, shunned, or left, him, or it; (S * Msb, K * TA; *) namely, a person, (TA,) or a thing. (Msb.) أَفَنَضْرِبُ عَنْكُمُ الذِّكْرَ صَفْحًا, in the Kur , is said to mean (assumed tropical Shall we then neglect you, and not teach you what is incumbent on you? the phrase being taken from a rider's striking his beast with his stick when he desires to turn him from the course that he is pursuing or the meaning is, (assumed tropical shall we then turn away the Kuran from you, and not invite you thereby to the faith, turning away ourselves from you? (TA.) One says also, ضَرَبْتُ عَنْهُ صَفْحًا meaning (assumed tropical I turned away from him and left him.
…ضَرَبَ مَثَلًا (S, A, O, &c.) (tropical He rehearsed, propounded, or declared, a parable, a similitude, an example, or a proverb; said of God (S, * O, * Msb, TA or he mentioned, or set forth, a parable, &c. or he framed a parable thus expl., the verb has but one objective complement or the phrase signifies he made an example, or the subject of a parable or similitude &c.; and so has two objective complements in the saying in the Kur وَاضْرِبْ لَهُمْ مَثَلًا أَصْحَابَ الْقَرْيَةِ (assumed tropical i. e., the story of the people of the town, مثلا may be in the accus. case as an objective complement, اضحاب القرية being a substitute for مثلا; or اصحاب القرية may be regarded as a second objective complement the phrase is differently expl. on account of the different meanings of the verb ضَرَبَ; which signifies he described, or rehearsed; and he declared, propounded, or explained; and he made, caused to be, or constituted; &c.; accord. to some, it is taken from the phrase ضَرَبَ الدِرْهَمَ ; because of the impression which a parable or the like makes upon the mind accord. to some, from ضَرِيبٌ signifying “ a like; ” because the first thing is made like the second accord. to some, from ضَرَبَ الطِّينَ عَلَى الجِدَارِ and accord. to some, from ضَرَبَ الخَاتَمَ ; because of the correspondence between a parable or the like and the object to which it is applied, and the correspondence between the signet and its impression. (TA, from the M and L &c.) يَضْرِبُ اللّٰهُ الْحَقَّ وَالْباطِلَ, in the Kur , means (assumed tropical God likeneth, or compareth, truth and falsity. (TA.) One says also, ضَرَبَ بِهِ مَثَلًا (assumed tropical .
…اضرب signifies also (tropical He was silent; he spoke not or he lowered his eyes, looking towards the ground
