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Resolution of Heritage Verses
Each of the heritage verses, Nisa 11, 12 and 176, actually offers separate formulas for individual situations. In fact, each sentence in these verses mentions a separate situation and formula in its own right...
When I was researching it online, I saw that there were people who noticed and said that these three verses gave separate formulas in them. But as I said, not only the verse, but also every sentence in the verses also mentions a different situation and sharing in its own right. Each sentence is a separate list of heirs and the proportions they will receive.
Whoever's mentioned in the sentence, they're the only heirs. So either they're alive, or they're still being inherited, even if they're others.
Therefore, in fact, there is no ratio to each other, common formula, hunting, as the sects practice. In Nisa 11, for example, "If there are more than two women, they own two-thirds of what the deceased leaves." is a separate formula alone (if only girls are heirs and more than two girls, this rate applies, or else it is not in other stylish and circumstances).
And so the stones are in place. In any case, it's enough. Not only is there increased inheritance in some cases, but there is also who will be given this increased amount in light of the verses. (E.g. Verse 8 of Nisa...)
Now let's write verses Nisa 11, 12, and 176 describing this heritage share and then provide an example of analysis through one
Nisa
411 God directs you regarding the inheritance of your children "To the male shall be as that given to two females. If they are women, more than two, then they will have two thirds of what is inherited. And if she is only one, then she will have one half. And to his parents, each one of them shall have one sixth of what is inherited, if he has a child. If he has no child and his parents are the heirs, then to his mother is one third; if he has siblings then to his mother is one sixth. All after a will is carried through or a debt. Your parents and your children, you do not know which are closer to you in benefit, a directive from God, for God is Knowledgeable, Wise."
412 And for you is half of what your wives leave behind if they have no child; but if they have a child then to you is one quarter of what they leave behind. All after a will is carried through or a debt. And to them is one quarter of what you leave behind if you have no child; but if you have a child then to them is one eighth of what you leave behind. All after a will is carried through or a debt. And if a man or a woman who is being inherited has no ascendants, but has a brother or a sister, then to each one of them is one sixth, but if they are more than this then they are to share in one third. All after a will is carried through or a debt, which does not cause harm. A directive from God, and God is Knowledgeable, Compassionate.
4176 They seek a ruling from you, say "God gives you the ruling for those who have no ascendants. If a person passes away and has no children but has a sister, then she shall receive half of what he leaves behind; and he will inherit from her if she has no child. However, if he has two sisters, then they will receive two thirds of what he left behind; and if he has siblings, men and women, then the male shall receive twice what the female receives." God makes clear to you that you do not stray; God is aware of all things.
As an example, let's open up the information given in verse 11.
I have said that each of these verses, let alone each sentence in them, offer separate formulas for different situations. Let's present his analysis
Nisa
- "Allah advises you regarding your children For the male, the share of two females."
That is, if the heirs consist of only children and there are both male and female children, male children will receive 2 units, while female ones will receive 1 unit.
Briefly, with an example, if there is 300 L. inheritance and a man and a woman have children, the male will receive 200 L. and the woman will receive 100 L.
"If they are more than two women, they have two-thirds of what the deceased left."
So if they only have daughters as inheritors and their number is more than two, they have two-thirds of the inheritance. Here I would like to draw your attention again; The desired here is for girls to receive two-thirds only and only in this case. Otherwise, there is no such share in other terms and conditions.
(By the way, considering the statement in verse 176, if the inheritors are 2 girls, these 2 people share two thirds).If we continue with the 300 L. example, they only have girls and if they are more than two, they share 200 liras among them.
"If the child is just a woman, he owns half the inheritance."
As stated in the continuation sentence in the verse, if the deceased left only a single daughter she could receive half of the inheritance.
Again, if we go over 300 Lira, 150 Lira means this one girl child.
"If the deceased has a child, he will have a sixth share for each of the parents as he left them behind."
We understand from this statement that this time the heir has left his parents behind as well as his children, and that's why they have a share (one sixth for each ...).
Of the 300 lira, 50 lira belongs to the mother, 50 lira to the father, and the remaining is the children.
"If the deceased has no children and his parents have inherited him, then his mother is one third."
In this sentence in Nisa 11 verse, it is mentioned that "only the mother and father are inheritors". So this time there are no children, only the parents of the deceased are inheritors (even if there are siblings or something left behind, they are not inheritors).
In this case, the mother received a third. Since the share rate is not given although the father is mentioned in the sentence, the remaining two thirds means your father.
In this case, the mother receives 100 Liras of 300 Liras, while the father receives 200 Liras.
"If he has siblings, his mother's share is one-sixth of what is left of his will and debt."
If the deceased has a mother but does not have a father and also has siblings, the share of the mother decreases to one in six. The rest are shared by the brothers. But let's repeat, if the father had also been the father, only the mother and father would have received the estate, and the siblings would not have their share ... (And as it is understood from the verses, if the deceased has a child, the siblings cannot get a share.)
Likewise, in verses 12 and 176, special cases and formulas are mentioned, sentence by sentence. For example, if the deceased left a spouse in verse 12, verse 176 tells how the division would be if only siblings / siblings left behind, and as I said, each sentence in these verses contains a list of heirs and a formula.
If you wish, let us briefly examine the verse 176 of Nisa in this context
4176 They seek a ruling from you, say "God gives you the ruling for those who have no ascendants. If a person passes away and has no children but has a sister, then she shall receive half of what he leaves behind; and he will inherit from her if she has no child. However, if he has two sisters, then they will receive two thirds of what he left behind; and if he has siblings, men and women, then the male shall receive twice what the female receives." God makes clear to you that you do not stray; God is aware of all things.
Here, too, "if only siblings are heirs", it is explained what the proportions are and of course, each sentence offers a separate list and a separate formulaIf the heir is only 1 sister, half of the inheritance,
If the heir is 1 brother, he takes all of the inheritance,
If 2 sisters are heirs, they get two-thirds,
If only the siblings are inheritors and they are men and women, that is, of both sexes, they share the entire estate as one (female) and two (male).By the way, we indirectly understand from these verses that if there are only many brothers left, these sisters will receive the entire inheritance, or if there are more than two sisters (referring to verse 11), these sisters will receive two-thirds of the inheritance (equally divided among themselves).
If you read verses 11 and 176 of Nisa one after the other, you will see that the rates given to boys and girls only when children are inheritors in verse 11 are exactly the same as those given to brothers and sisters when only brothers are inheritors in verse 176.
(Incidentally, let us state that the siblings mentioned in one sentence of Nisa 12 verse and the deceased's spouse are the heirs. But in this verse 176, "only brothers" are heirs.)
In summary In verse 11, there is no spouse, while in verse 12, there is a spouse, verse 176 tells how to make a taksim when there are only brothers.
And as it is known, what is essential is the testament according to the verses, and these rates are for the division of the remaining property after the will is fulfilled and the debts, if any, are paid.
As you can see, there are none of the problems such as insufficient inheritance or courtyard. The verses describe the sharing of heritage in a flawless manner. The important point here is to be able to see that each sentence gives a separate formula according to a separate list of heirs. In other words, each sentence in the verses gives a unique list of heirs and tells what the heirs will receive in this case.
While solving problems related to inheritance sharing, it is checked who the surviving heirs are, and the inheritance is divided by determining which sentence of the verses related to inheritance.
As an example, let's solve the question involving 3 famous girl heirs.
"A man dies and leaves behind a mother, a father, three daughters and a wife. How will the heritage be shared? ".
Since both the spouse and the children are inheritors here, the fourth sentence of Nisa 12 verse describes the relevant section (each sentence of this verse describes what should be done if there is a surviving spouse)
". And to them is one quarter of what you leave behind if you have no child; but if you have a child then to them is one eighth of what you leave behind"
According to this sentence, if the man leaves his wife behind and has children, only these people can be inheritors. His wife gets one eighth of the estate, and the children get seven eight . Even if the deceased has a mother, father or siblings, he cannot get a share in this case.
As I said, each sentence gives a separate heir list and formula, and as you can see, inheritance is always enough.
Increasing inheritance is in question only in some cases, again, as I mentioned at the beginning of my article, there are verses containing signs that show who this increased heritage can be given ... For example
48 And if the distribution is attended by the relatives and the orphans and the needy, then you shall give them part of it and say to them a kind saying.
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You're the one making contradictory and spammy posts.
No, name one contradictory statement I've made out of 1,000+ cases. You hijacked the inheritance thread and others with spam, avoiding simple questions like How much goes to the father and two daughters? If you don’t know (which is obvious), just say so.
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Resolution of Heritage Verses
Each of the heritage verses, Nisa 11, 12 and 176, actually offers separate formulas for individual situations. In fact, each sentence in these verses mentions a separate situation and formula in its own right...
When I was researching it online, I saw that there were people who noticed and said that these three verses gave separate formulas in them. But as I said, not only the verse, but also every sentence in the verses also mentions a different situation and sharing in its own right. Each sentence is a separate list of heirs and the proportions they will receive.
Whoever's mentioned in the sentence, they're the only heirs. So either they're alive, or they're still being inherited, even if they're others.
Therefore, in fact, there is no ratio to each other, common formula, hunting, as the sects practice. In Nisa 11, for example, "If there are more than two women, they own two-thirds of what the deceased leaves." is a separate formula alone (if only girls are heirs and more than two girls, this rate applies, or else it is not in other stylish and circumstances).
And so the stones are in place. In any case, it's enough. Not only is there increased inheritance in some cases, but there is also who will be given this increased amount in light of the verses. (E.g. Verse 8 of Nisa...)
Now let's write verses Nisa 11, 12, and 176 describing this heritage share and then provide an example of analysis through one
Nisa
411 God directs you regarding the inheritance of your children "To the male shall be as that given to two females. If they are women, more than two, then they will have two thirds of what is inherited. And if she is only one, then she will have one half. And to his parents, each one of them shall have one sixth of what is inherited, if he has a child. If he has no child and his parents are the heirs, then to his mother is one third; if he has siblings then to his mother is one sixth. All after a will is carried through or a debt. Your parents and your children, you do not know which are closer to you in benefit, a directive from God, for God is Knowledgeable, Wise."
412 And for you is half of what your wives leave behind if they have no child; but if they have a child then to you is one quarter of what they leave behind. All after a will is carried through or a debt. And to them is one quarter of what you leave behind if you have no child; but if you have a child then to them is one eighth of what you leave behind. All after a will is carried through or a debt. And if a man or a woman who is being inherited has no ascendants, but has a brother or a sister, then to each one of them is one sixth, but if they are more than this then they are to share in one third. All after a will is carried through or a debt, which does not cause harm. A directive from God, and God is Knowledgeable, Compassionate.
4176 They seek a ruling from you, say "God gives you the ruling for those who have no ascendants. If a person passes away and has no children but has a sister, then she shall receive half of what he leaves behind; and he will inherit from her if she has no child. However, if he has two sisters, then they will receive two thirds of what he left behind; and if he has siblings, men and women, then the male shall receive twice what the female receives." God makes clear to you that you do not stray; God is aware of all things.
As an example, let's open up the information given in verse 11.
I have said that each of these verses, let alone each sentence in them, offer separate formulas for different situations. Let's present his analysis
Nisa
- "Allah advises you regarding your children For the male, the share of two females."
That is, if the heirs consist of only children and there are both male and female children, male children will receive 2 units, while female ones will receive 1 unit.
Briefly, with an example, if there is 300 L. inheritance and a man and a woman have children, the male will receive 200 L. and the woman will receive 100 L.
"If they are more than two women, they have two-thirds of what the deceased left."
So if they only have daughters as inheritors and their number is more than two, they have two-thirds of the inheritance. Here I would like to draw your attention again; The desired here is for girls to receive two-thirds only and only in this case. Otherwise, there is no such share in other terms and conditions.
(By the way, considering the statement in verse 176, if the inheritors are 2 girls, these 2 people share two thirds).If we continue with the 300 L. example, they only have girls and if they are more than two, they share 200 liras among them.
"If the child is just a woman, he owns half the inheritance."
As stated in the continuation sentence in the verse, if the deceased left only a single daughter she could receive half of the inheritance.
Again, if we go over 300 Lira, 150 Lira means this one girl child.
"If the deceased has a child, he will have a sixth share for each of the parents as he left them behind."
We understand from this statement that this time the heir has left his parents behind as well as his children, and that's why they have a share (one sixth for each ...).
Of the 300 lira, 50 lira belongs to the mother, 50 lira to the father, and the remaining is the children.
"If the deceased has no children and his parents have inherited him, then his mother is one third."
In this sentence in Nisa 11 verse, it is mentioned that "only the mother and father are inheritors". So this time there are no children, only the parents of the deceased are inheritors (even if there are siblings or something left behind, they are not inheritors).
In this case, the mother received a third. Since the share rate is not given although the father is mentioned in the sentence, the remaining two thirds means your father.
In this case, the mother receives 100 Liras of 300 Liras, while the father receives 200 Liras.
"If he has siblings, his mother's share is one-sixth of what is left of his will and debt."
If the deceased has a mother but does not have a father and also has siblings, the share of the mother decreases to one in six. The rest are shared by the brothers. But let's repeat, if the father had also been the father, only the mother and father would have received the estate, and the siblings would not have their share ... (And as it is understood from the verses, if the deceased has a child, the siblings cannot get a share.)
Likewise, in verses 12 and 176, special cases and formulas are mentioned, sentence by sentence. For example, if the deceased left a spouse in verse 12, verse 176 tells how the division would be if only siblings / siblings left behind, and as I said, each sentence in these verses contains a list of heirs and a formula.
If you wish, let us briefly examine the verse 176 of Nisa in this context
4176 They seek a ruling from you, say "God gives you the ruling for those who have no ascendants. If a person passes away and has no children but has a sister, then she shall receive half of what he leaves behind; and he will inherit from her if she has no child. However, if he has two sisters, then they will receive two thirds of what he left behind; and if he has siblings, men and women, then the male shall receive twice what the female receives." God makes clear to you that you do not stray; God is aware of all things.
Here, too, "if only siblings are heirs", it is explained what the proportions are and of course, each sentence offers a separate list and a separate formulaIf the heir is only 1 sister, half of the inheritance,
If the heir is 1 brother, he takes all of the inheritance,
If 2 sisters are heirs, they get two-thirds,
If only the siblings are inheritors and they are men and women, that is, of both sexes, they share the entire estate as one (female) and two (male).By the way, we indirectly understand from these verses that if there are only many brothers left, these sisters will receive the entire inheritance, or if there are more than two sisters (referring to verse 11), these sisters will receive two-thirds of the inheritance (equally divided among themselves).
If you read verses 11 and 176 of Nisa one after the other, you will see that the rates given to boys and girls only when children are inheritors in verse 11 are exactly the same as those given to brothers and sisters when only brothers are inheritors in verse 176.
(Incidentally, let us state that the siblings mentioned in one sentence of Nisa 12 verse and the deceased's spouse are the heirs. But in this verse 176, "only brothers" are heirs.)
In summary In verse 11, there is no spouse, while in verse 12, there is a spouse, verse 176 tells how to make a taksim when there are only brothers.
And as it is known, what is essential is the testament according to the verses, and these rates are for the division of the remaining property after the will is fulfilled and the debts, if any, are paid.
As you can see, there are none of the problems such as insufficient inheritance or courtyard. The verses describe the sharing of heritage in a flawless manner. The important point here is to be able to see that each sentence gives a separate formula according to a separate list of heirs. In other words, each sentence in the verses gives a unique list of heirs and tells what the heirs will receive in this case.
While solving problems related to inheritance sharing, it is checked who the surviving heirs are, and the inheritance is divided by determining which sentence of the verses related to inheritance.
As an example, let's solve the question involving 3 famous girl heirs.
"A man dies and leaves behind a mother, a father, three daughters and a wife. How will the heritage be shared? ".
Since both the spouse and the children are inheritors here, the fourth sentence of Nisa 12 verse describes the relevant section (each sentence of this verse describes what should be done if there is a surviving spouse)
". And to them is one quarter of what you leave behind if you have no child; but if you have a child then to them is one eighth of what you leave behind"
According to this sentence, if the man leaves his wife behind and has children, only these people can be inheritors. His wife gets one eighth of the estate, and the children get seven eight . Even if the deceased has a mother, father or siblings, he cannot get a share in this case.
As I said, each sentence gives a separate heir list and formula, and as you can see, inheritance is always enough.
Increasing inheritance is in question only in some cases, again, as I mentioned at the beginning of my article, there are verses containing signs that show who this increased heritage can be given ... For example
48 And if the distribution is attended by the relatives and the orphans and the needy, then you shall give them part of it and say to them a kind saying.
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Salaam,
The verse is explicit, no need for further explanation.
4135 O ye the ones believes ye of be ye of steadfast in the justice witnesses of to God and in case on (against) yourselves or the parents two and the nearer (relatives) if beeth ample of or poor of so the God nearest in them dual so not thou follow ye of the desire lest thou deviate ye of and if distort ye of or thou turn away ye of so indeed the God is in what thou working aware of
On the messenger only question; obviously Qur'an was used e.g., an only heir, such as a daughter, receives the entire inheritance. This is consistent with the Qur'an and the hadith which I posted which differs from the traditional interpretations which suggest that an only daughter receives half, leading to confusion about who gets the remaining half?
It's important to note that not all hadiths are accurate. Many contain preconceived biases, political agendas, or other inaccuracies. Similarly, understanding the context of events requires historical knowledge. Without this knowledge, for example, if the Qur'an is presented to isolated people, they may only grasp the general messages, such as "be kind and just."
Salam bro,
What was the role of the messenger. Was it only to deliver the book. He didn't give any explanation? We only people following Quran have different understanding and opinions. We do have disagreement on issues.
An-Nisa' 459
يَٰٓأَيُّهَا ٱلَّذِينَ ءَامَنُوٓا۟ أَطِيعُوا۟ ٱللَّهَ وَأَطِيعُوا۟ ٱلرَّسُولَ وَأُو۟لِى ٱلْأَمْرِ مِنكُمْۖ فَإِن تَنَٰزَعْتُمْ فِى شَىْءٍ فَرُدُّوهُ إِلَى ٱللَّهِ وَٱلرَّسُولِ إِن كُنتُمْ تُؤْمِنُونَ بِٱللَّهِ وَٱلْيَوْمِ ٱلْءَاخِرِۚ ذَٰلِكَ خَيْرٌ وَأَحْسَنُ تَأْوِيلًا
O you who have believed, obey Allāh and obey the Messenger and those in authority among you. And if you disagree over anything, refer it to Allāh and the Messenger, if you should believe in Allāh and the Last Day. That is the best and best in result.
God is telling the believers if they had a differed they should refer to The Messenger. This means he was not just postman. What I have difficulty in understanding is that the prophet was just a postman. He must have other role as a teacher. But I do reject that his explanation is find in the satanic books of hadiths.
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Peace centi50
You say, quote
"God is telling the believers if they had a differed they should refer to The Messenger. This means he was not just postman. What I have difficulty in understanding is that the prophet was just a postman. He must have other role as a teacher. But I do reject that his explanation is find in the satanic books of hadiths."So where are you going to find the messenger explanations then?
Is Qoran not giving you his explanations in it"They ask you about...Say such and such..."?
GOD us giving the explanations in the book/scripture.Study Qoran and believe GOD s words in it.GOD will teach and explain everything you need to know about how to redeem and save your soul in His scripture. .
GOD bless you.
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Peace centi50
You say, quote
"God is telling the believers if they had a differed they should refer to The Messenger. This means he was not just postman. What I have difficulty in understanding is that the prophet was just a postman. He must have other role as a teacher. But I do reject that his explanation is find in the satanic books of hadiths."So where are you going to find the messenger explanations then?
Is Qoran not giving you his explanations in it"They ask you about...Say such and such..."?
GOD us giving the explanations in the book/scripture.Study Qoran and believe GOD s words in it.GOD will teach and explain everything you need to know about how to redeem and save your soul in His scripture. .
GOD bless you.
Peace.Salam bro,
I believe Quran has explanation but we have to agree there is not just straight forward.
Example is polygamy. Some say polygamy is allowed some say no and some say it allows but with widows who have children.
Here in free minds we have different opinions on what the Quran actually say.
Or maybe the earlier community of Muhammad did know everything on what the Quran commanded and didn't have these many interpretations as we have now even among the Quranist.
I think those earlier community did understand it much more clearer than us.
And needed no explanation coz the prophet could explain it.
Let me again clear. I don't believe the hadirh7is explaining the Quran.
I will settle with the thought that the community of Muhammad and those early years had more understanding of Quran than us.
There are many topics here in the forum that confuses me one of them is polygamy.
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Peace centi50.
You say ,quote
"Or maybe the earlier community of Muhammad did know everything on what the Quran commanded and didn't have these many interpretations as we have now even among the Quranist.
I think those earlier community did understand it much more clearer than us.
And needed no explanation coz the prophet could explain it."Brother,every generation disputed and debated what Qoran said.
Qoran says to seek more knowledge, to keep studying and improving our understanding which means the journey will be ongoing and there will always be more questions about grasping Qoran.Also GOD s role is made clear in Qoran .i,e He is the main teacher and explainer to the sincere heart and mind according to His knowledge /test of people.
There will always be differences and various interpretations. One can only do their best ,use their own faculties and keep trying to learn more ,persevere.
Do your best with what GOD gave you, be GOD conscious and seek GOD s help continuously . Implore Him for all your concerns and doubts.
It is more about how one leads their life , staying on the straight path is the most important task to get right.
For example, it does not matter what opinions say about polygamy. Qoran says it is better to marry only one to be able to be fair and just. So follow the best path indicated and keep on searching and learning.GOD knows what you are going through, your honesty and effort to follow His scripture as best you can.
Even ,if others explain to you all the things you are confused about ,you still have to do your own checking and come to your own understanding conclusion.
GOD bless you.
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Peace centi50.
You say ,quote
"Or maybe the earlier community of Muhammad did know everything on what the Quran commanded and didn't have these many interpretations as we have now even among the Quranist.
I think those earlier community did understand it much more clearer than us.
And needed no explanation coz the prophet could explain it."Brother,every generation disputed and debated what Qoran said.
Qoran says to seek more knowledge, to keep studying and improving our understanding which means the journey will be ongoing and there will always be more questions about grasping Qoran.Also GOD s role is made clear in Qoran .i,e He is the main teacher and explainer to the sincere heart and mind according to His knowledge /test of people.
There will always be differences and various interpretations. One can only do their best ,use their own faculties and keep trying to learn more ,persevere.
Do your best with what GOD gave you, be GOD conscious and seek GOD s help continuously . Implore Him for all your concerns and doubts.
It is more about how one leads their life , staying on the straight path is the most important task to get right.
For example, it does not matter what opinions say about polygamy. Qoran says it is better to marry only one to be able to be fair and just. So follow the best path indicated and keep on searching and learning.GOD knows what you are going through, your honesty and effort to follow His scripture as best you can.
Even ,if others explain to you all the things you are confused about ,you still have to do your own checking and come to your own understanding conclusion.
GOD bless you.
Peace..Salam bro,
You said it's better to marry one, so you can be fair and just. So one is recommended? but u can marry more if U can be just. In another part of the Quran it's says man can never been just.
It seems its a contradiction to 43 which call for more than one unless the marry in 43 means marry off and mathan, thulatha and Ruba does not mean 2,3 and 4.
I have read so many views in here untill my head spins.
What is your take on polygamy. Is it prohibited or allowed under certain circumstances.
God bless
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Salam bro,
An-Nisa' 459
O you who have believed, obey Allāh and obey the Messenger and those in authority among you. And if you disagree over anything, refer it to Allāh and the Messenger, if you should believe in Allāh and the Last Day. That is the best and best in result.Salaam,
"Hearken," meaning to give respectful attention, is closer in meaning. He didn't merely quote the Qur'an; he also used it to rule and advise, as seen in the case of the wealthy man's inheritance and his daughter.
Hadith is similar to history, much like the accounts of Alexander the Great written centuries after his death, often containing embellishment, propaganda, and bias. The most widely circulated stories are usually the most questionable, as seen in modern conflicts like Gaza, where narratives are shaped by the 'spin' they're trying to promote. Similarly, the most widely narrated Hadiths include
Hadith al-Thaqalayn (The Two Weighty Things) "I am leaving among you two weighty things the Book of Allah and my Ahl al-Bayt (family)."
Hadith al-Isra wal-Mi'raj (The Night Journey) Negotiating 50 daily prayers down to 5.
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Peace centi50.
According to your own understanding of the verses, what do you think Qoran is saying to you?
That is how I tackle Qoran first. Of course you can compare with other interpretations and choose the best that agrees with your own conclusion or keep on hold.
Now, according to my own understanding of Qoran on marriage, it is giving options and advising the best ways.
These are the options
Adults who have reached maturity/age of responsibility should marry with consent of both families and an agreement from both partners.
Or . be patient if you cannot afford to and prepare for it . Do it when ready financially and mentally/emotionally...Qoran says to be fair and just , one partner is better. It is easier to agree/communicate/run a united family with one spouse. The more wives(or the more husbands also) the more complicated life will be
Remember marriage needs securities and rules to work. Both partners work /contribute to marriage. To be secure financially, mentally and serious /honest/ respectful of the agreements/rules.
Don t you think marriage will be complex and more difficult to manage if one adds more partners?
Qoran is not telling us to marry or stay celibate or marry two three or four wives.
Qoran is saying it is better for adults to marry( and you can only be more/better fair /just with only one partner) and bring up your family with GOD s system/ways/straight path or follow your whims if you choose to.GOD has given us the freedom of choice and never forces anything on us.
So ,what do you want to do yourself? Read the verses, analyse and compare with what others say and choose according to your own conclusion brother.
Thank you.
GOD bless you.
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Peace centi50.
According to your understanding of the verses, what do you think Qoran is saying to you?
That is how I tackle Qoran first. Of course, you can compare with other interpretations and choose the best that agrees with your conclusion or keep it on hold.
Now, according to my understanding of Qoran on marriage, it is giving options and advising the best ways.
These are the options
Adults who have reached maturity/age of responsibility should marry with the consent of both families and an agreement from both partners.
Or . be patient if you cannot afford to and prepare for it. Do it when ready financially and mentally/emotionally...Qoran says to be fair and just, one partner is better. It is easier to agree/communicate/run a united family with one spouse. The more wives(or the more husbands also) the more complicated life will be
Remember marriage needs securities and rules to work. Both partners work /contribute to marriage. To be secure financially, mentally and seriously/honestly/ respectful of the agreements/rules.
Do t you think marriage will be complex and more difficult to manage if one adds more partners?
Qoran is not telling us to marry or stay celibate or marry two, three, or four wives.
Qoran is saying adults should marry ( and you can only be more/better fair /just with only one partner) and bring up your family with GOD's system/ways/straight path or follow your whims if you choose to.GOD has given us the freedom of choice and never forces anything on us.
So, what do you want to do yourself? Read the verses, analyse and compare with what others say and choose according to your conclusion brother.
Thank you.
GOD bless you.
Peace.D
Salam bro,
I believe that polygamy has strict conditions that it must be for taking care of orphans. To marry the widow who has children to help.
But there is one verse I just don't know how to reconcile it with polygamy.
An-Nur 2432
وَأَنكِحُوا۟ ٱلْأَيَٰمَىٰ مِنكُمْ وَٱلصَّٰلِحِينَ مِنْ عِبَادِكُمْ وَإِمَآئِكُمْۚ إِن يَكُونُوا۟ فُقَرَآءَ يُغْنِهِمُ ٱللَّهُ مِن فَضْلِهِۦۗ وَٱللَّهُ وَٰسِعٌ عَلِيمٌ
And marry the unmarried among you and the righteous among your male slaves and female slaves. If they should be poor, Allāh will enrich them with His bounty, and Allāh is all-encompassing and Knowing.
I am confused by the above verse. I take that we should marry only the single.
Now, if a woman marries a married man, she is breaking this commandment as it says married the single.
Unless here the the world Ankihu means to marry off and not marry
Another verse which makes my head hurt is
Is 4129
An-Nisa' 4129
وَلَن تَسْتَطِيعُوٓا۟ أَن تَعْدِلُوا۟ بَيْنَ ٱلنِّسَآءِ وَلَوْ حَرَصْتُمْۖ فَلَا تَمِيلُوا۟ كُلَّ ٱلْمَيْلِ فَتَذَرُوهَا كَٱلْمُعَلَّقَةِۚ وَإِن تُصْلِحُوا۟ وَتَتَّقُوا۟ فَإِنَّ ٱللَّهَ كَانَ غَفُورًا رَّحِيمًا
And you will never be able to be equal between wives, even if you should strive . So do not incline completely and leave another hanging. And if you amend and fear Allāh - then indeed, Allāh is ever Forgiving and Merciful.
This verse is like contradicting 43 if I take 43 as a license of polygamy.
Or here Allah is referring to emotional just. As a human being, there is a tendency to love one more than the other, and it's about emotional just.
And what is mathna, thutha ruba. This can not mean one two and three. Maybe by twos by threes or two by two.
But If it means two by two three by three and four by four can it be you can have 4 wives or 6 wives or 8 wives.
Am so much confused
To tell you the truth I don't know the Quran says in regard to this topic.
Other members input will be appreciated also
God bless
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Unless here the the world Ankihu means to marry off and not marry
And what is mathna, thutha ruba. This can not mean one two and three. Maybe by twos by threes or two by two.
Salam,
43
twosome (paired) and three and four (all masculine)
so if fear you (pl.) that not thou equitable/justly ye of
fawāĥidatan/so unified (f) or what entrust right hands yoursaddress is the community likewise see 9 instances
2213 'ummatan wāĥidatan - community unified or single (f)
3446 say solely I advise you biwāĥidatin/in single (thought)
that thou stand ye of to God mathná/twosome and individually2827 said indeed I want that 'An 'Unkiĥaka
Work arrangement for those without the means to marry.
Similar to the Torah where Jacob marries Leah and Rachel. -
Salam,
43
twosome (paired) and three and four (all masculine)
so if fear you (pl.) that not thou equitable/justly ye of
fawāĥidatan/so unified (f) or what entrust right hands yoursaddress is the community likewise see 9 instances
2213 'ummatan wāĥidatan - community unified or single (f)
3446 say solely I advise you biwāĥidatin/in single (thought)
that thou stand ye of to God mathná/twosome and individually2827 said indeed I want that 'An 'Unkiĥaka
Work arrangement for those without the means to marry.
Similar to the Torah where Jacob marries Leah and Rachel.Salam bro,
What is addressing the community? For community to do what?
Can you translate the whole verse.
For men to marry twosome?
Please can you explain sell
God bless
