The 7th century Proof that Muhammad may have been Kesys6
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Salam guys,
Dr. Jay is at again. Insinuating the Muhammad may have been Jesus. His youtube channels attacks Islam like have never seen before.
https//youtu.be/CBT3VNH4DQw
The good people of this forum should request a debate with this guy. He usually brags about no Muslim wants debate him.
Guys what do you think
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They can't comprehend a thing.
وَمَا مُحَمَّدٌ إِلَّا رَسُولٌ 3144
and not Muhammad (whom praise) except messengerSee 8th line from bottom "Emanet 13" estimated date 650 - 750
https//corpuscoranicum.de/en/manuscripts/59/page/24v?sura=3&verse=144https//i.postimg.cc/W12YW43k/muhamad.jpg
https//corpuscoranicum.de/en/verse-navigator/sura/3/verse/144/manuscripts
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They can't comprehend a thing.
وَمَا مُحَمَّدٌ إِلَّا رَسُولٌ 3144
and not Muhammad (whom praise) except messengerSee 8th line from bottom "Emanet 13" estimated date 650 - 750
https//corpuscoranicum.de/en/manuscripts/59/page/24v?sura=3&verse=144https//i.postimg.cc/W12YW43k/muhamad.jpg
https//corpuscoranicum.de/en/verse-navigator/sura/3/verse/144/manuscripts
Salam bro,
Here more of same. Please watch. He got also some Arab Christians twisting things
A guy name Murad
https//youtu.be/tsLVKfw1RbI
The above link he says the 4 reference of Muhammad in the Quran are all about Jesus.
Please see the series. He and other guy says Muhammad is not a name but a title. That's true it meand the praised one but. He even say Abdul malek the governor od Syria was a Christian because he minted coins with the cross on his head.
Free minds guys should jump into his channel and challenge him for the misinformation. He claims no Muslims want to debate him
God bless
See the whole series. Of Muhammad being Jesus and that and the name is borrows from the jews and Christians
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Salam bro,
Here more of same. Please watch. He got also some Arab Christians twisting things
A guy name Murad
https//youtu.be/tsLVKfw1RbI
The above link he says the 4 reference of Muhammad in the Quran are all about Jesus.
Please see the series. He and other guy says Muhammad is not a name but a title. That's true it meand the praised one but. He even say Abdul malek the governor od Syria was a Christian because he minted coins with the cross on his head.
Free minds guys should jump into his channel and challenge him for the misinformation. He claims no Muslims want to debate him
God bless
See the whole series. Of Muhammad being Jesus and that and the name is borrows from the jews and Christians
Salam,
It’s a waste of time; I’ve already seen him and others on youtube at Speakers' Corner in Hyde Park, London, where people gather to debate religious issues, often with the ignorant.
Regarding the coins, Abdul Malik is associated with introducing Islamic coinage to distinguish it from Byzantine and Sassanian coins, which included Christian crosses or Zoroastrian symbols. Obviously, he couldn’t eliminate them all at once since the economy was tied to them.
https//numismatics.org/exhibits/medieval-byzantine-and-islamic-empires/
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Salam,
It’s a waste of time; I’ve already seen him and others on YouTube at Speakers' Corner in Hyde Park, London, where people gather to debate religious issues, often with the ignorant.
Regarding the coins, Abdul Malik is associated with introducing Islamic coinage to distinguish it from Byzantine and Sassanian coins, which included Christian crosses or Zoroastrian symbols. He couldn’t eliminate them all at once since the economy was tied to them.
He said he minted new coins with crosses.
https//numismatics.org/exhibits/medieval-byzantine-and-islamic-empires/
What about the reference to Muhammad being Jesus? The root MHMD. That Muhammad ment
I don't think it's a waste of time when a person can show how wrong he is. It will help many who will see that what he is saying is false.
What about his Argument of Muhammad reference in Quran is about Jesus
He Says there is not a person the prophet Muhammad but it's a title and is found in.
old testament and new testament. He said that time the Arabs did not have vowels in the 7th centuryhttps//youtu.be/CBT3VNH4DQw
See this.
Where are other members can they have inputs.
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What about the reference to Muhammad being Jesus? The root MHMD. That Muhammad ment
I don't think it's a waste of time when a person can show how wrong he is. It will help many who will see that what he is saying is false.
What about his Argument of Muhammad reference in Quran is about Jesus
He Says there is not a person the prophet Muhammad but it's a title and is found in.
old testament and new testament. He said that time the Arabs did not have vowels in the 7th centuryhttps//youtu.be/CBT3VNH4DQw
See this.
Where are other members can they have inputs.
Salam,
That's one of the dumbest things on the internet. He's braying with that clown in Arab garb to appeal to the ignorant.
4829 Muhammad (whom praise) messenger الله and the ones with him more vigorous of on (against) the disbelievers affectionate of between them thou see them kneel of prostrate of pursuing bounty of from الله and approval of marks theirs in faces theirs from effect the prostration such similitude them in the Torah and similitude them in the Injeel … (i.e., the gospel according to Jesus—not Mark, Matthew, Luke, John, et al.)
The Qur'an was transmitted orally by millions from the time of revelation until today whereas old manuscripts (used as memory aids) appeared years later and were sent to the main provinces along with a 'reciter,' as I have already shown some with 'markings' below.
وَمَا مُحَمَّدٌ إِلَّا رَسُولٌ 3144
and not Muhammad (whom praise) except messengerhttps//i.postimg.cc/W12YW43k/muhamad.jpg
See 8th line from bottom "Emanet 13" estimated date 650 - 750
https//corpuscoranicum.de/en/manuscripts/59/page/24v?sura=3&verse=144For better study suggest videos by Rabbi Tovia Singer
https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVUheV-Gw7wLikewise, videos by professor Gabriel Said Reynolds
https//www.youtube.com/@ExploringtheQuranandtheBible -
Salam,
That's one of the dumbest things on the internet. He's braying with that clown in Arab garb to appeal to the ignorant.
4829 Muhammad (who praise) messenger الله and the ones with him more vigorous of on (against) the disbelievers affectionate of between them thou see them kneel of prostrate of pursuing bounty of from الله and approval of marks theirs in faces theirs from the effect the prostration such similitude them in the Torah and similitude them in the Injeel … (i.e., the gospel according to Jesus—not Mark, Matthew, Luke, John, et al.)
The Qur'an was transmitted orally by millions from the time of revelation until today whereas old manuscripts (used as memory aids) appeared years later and were sent to the main provinces along with a 'reciter,' as I have already shown some with 'markings' below.
وَمَا مُحَمَّدٌ إِلَّا رَسُولٌ 3144
and not Muhammad (whom praise) except messengerhttps//i.postimg.cc/W12YW43k/muhamad.jpg
See the 8th line from the bottom "Emanet 13" estimated date 650 - 750
https//corpuscoranicum.de/en/manuscripts/59/page/24v?sura=3&verse=144For better study suggest videos by Rabbi Tovia Singer
https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVUheV-Gw7wLikewise, videos by professor Gabriel Said Reynolds
https//www.youtube.com/@ExploringtheQuranandtheBibleSalam bro,
I know Rabbi Tovia singer and Gabriel Reynolds.
He attacks cheery picks what he wants, and I don't remember which video he cited, Patricia Clon,e, doubting the historicity of Muhammad and using her as a scholar. But what he does not tell his audience is that Patricia Crone changed her views later and admitted Muhammad did exist
Patricia Crone "In the case of Mohammed, Muslim literary sources for his life only begin around 750-800 CE (common era), some four to five generations after his death, and few Islamicists (specialists in the history and study of Islam) these days assume them to be straightforward historical accounts. For all that, we probably know more about Mohammed than we do about Jesus (let alone Moses or the Buddha), and we certainly have the potential to know a great deal more.
There is no doubt that Mohammed existed, occasional attempts to deny it notwithstanding. His neighbours in Byzantine Syria got to hear of him within two years of his death at the latest; a Greek text written during the Arab invasion of Syria between 632 and 634 mentions that "a false prophet has appeared among the Saracens" and dismisses him as an impostor on the ground that prophets do not come "with sword and chariot". It thus conveys the impression that he was leading the invasions"
He attacks the historicity of Muhammad forgetting many Christian scholars attack the historicity of Jesus and the Bible as a whole
But I would be happy if our brothers in this forum took the time to refute him in his channel comment section or even have a YouTube debate.
God bless all