So is it twice a day or three times for prayer?

Ervin

Peace. I’ve been going through this section looking for explanations of how to pray, I even asked in another thread people to briefly explain how they pray.

In looking at this section of the forum all I found was pretty much discussions about if salat is ritual prayer or not.
Ablution is easy to understand in the Quran, so no need to explain it.

But anyway, I see some say you are supposed to pray two times, some say three times. So what do you think and why?

Thanks

Wakas

You may find the following helpful
https//mypercept.co.uk/articles/slw.htm

https//mypercept.co.uk/articles/salat-timings-Quran.html

https//mypercept.co.uk/articles/quran_on_salat.htm

Euphoric

al-Salat is a ritual, salat on its own can mean different things depending on the content.

But when it is mentioned as AL-SALAT it is speaking about the ritual.

There is no set number of the ritual al-Salat for Muslims, you can do it whenever and as many times you like.

The timings were specifically only for the Muminin

Q4103 Indeed, al-Salat is on the MUMININ prescribed (at) fixed times.

There are no times prescribed for the Muslims.

Salam.

Peace. I’ve been going through this section looking for explanations of how to pray, I even asked in another thread people to briefly explain how they pray.

In looking at this section of the forum all I found was pretty much discussions about if salat is ritual prayer or not.
Ablution is easy to understand in the Quran, so no need to explain it.

But anyway, I see some say you are supposed to pray two times, some say three times. So what do you think and why?

Thanks

shukri

Salam Ervin

Formerly I used to pray 5 times a day as Rashad Khalifa did
But now only 3 times a day

Since the Quran do not specify how to observe salat
I just do it without rakaat
But with standing, ruku' and sujud as these words are familiar in the Quran
Reciting whatever i wish in Arabic (especially Quran verse which i know the meaning of it)
And other recitations I done in my own mother tongue
I just concentrate on "khusyuk" and behave myself before God

I take this website as my best guidance concerning salat (391
https//www.quran-islam.org/main_topics/islam/pillars/number_of_salat_(P1200).html

Note

Although i believe Rashad Khalifa was the God's messenger of the covenant (381)
But he reminded us to follow the Quran alone, not him per se! ... Link https//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9606178.0
I believe if the Quran does not specify how to observe salat, we just do it according to our wisdom and don't be like Israelites asking Moses about the heifer to sacrifice! (267-71) ... No hardship in practicing religion (227!
"Khusyuk" is a word used to describe reverence of the physical and mind in observing salat

Just my take!
Thank you.

Emre_1974tr

Hello, all the details of worship, including salaat, are present in the Quran

https//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9611629.0

shukri

Hello, all the details of worship, including salaat, are present in the Quran

https//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9611629.0

Thanks for the link!

Bro Emre,
I guess you are expert in using the latest ChatGPT
Can you give me a favour by asking Ai about salat according to the Quran alone
Is it a ritual practice?
And how many times per day?

Just for my curiosity!

God bless you.

Emre_1974tr

Thanks for the link!

Bro Emre,
I guess you are expert in using the latest ChatGPT
Can you give me a favour by asking Ai about salat according to the Quran alone
Is it a ritual practice?
And how many times per day?

Just for my curiosity!

God bless you.

Answer of GPT 4o

"According to the Quran alone, the concept of salat is often understood as a form of prayer or connection to God. However, its interpretation and whether it is a ritual practice and how often it should be performed have been the subject of debate among Quranists (those who rely solely on the Quran for religious practices) and other Islamic scholars.

Here’s a breakdown based on the Quran alone

Salat as a Ritual Practice
In the Quran, salat is frequently mentioned in the context of prayer and worship. It involves devotion, remembrance, and communication with God.
Some verses describe physical actions associated with salat, such as standing, bowing, and prostrating (e.g., Quran 4102 and Quran 2226), which indicate that it can be understood as a ritualized form of worship.
However, the Quran does not explicitly provide a step-by-step guide to the rituals, such as the specific physical movements or the exact words to recite, which are detailed in Hadith literature. This has led to various interpretations.
Frequency of Salat
The Quran provides guidance on times of salat, but it does not explicitly mention the number "five times a day," which is commonly practiced in mainstream Islam based on Hadith.

Some key verses suggest salat should be performed at specific times

Quran 11114 – "Establish salat at the two ends of the day and in some hours of the night..."

This verse suggests at least three general time periods for prayer morning, evening, and night.
Quran 1778 – "Establish salat at the decline of the sun until the darkness of the night, and the Qur'an at dawn..."

This verse refers to prayer during the decline of the sun (afternoon), darkness of the night, and dawn.
Quran 20130 – "So be patient over what they say and glorify your Lord with praise before the rising of the sun and before its setting, and glorify Him during periods of the night and at the ends of the day..."

This indicates times before sunrise, before sunset, and during the night.
Quran 2458 – Refers to three times of privacy before dawn, at noon, and after evening prayer, hinting at additional periods of prayer.

Summary

Is salat a ritual practice? According to the Quran, salat appears to involve physical acts of devotion (standing, bowing, and prostrating), which suggests it can be understood as a ritual.

How many times a day? The Quran alone seems to indicate at least three times for salat morning, evening, and night. However, some verses point to the possibility of additional prayers.
The common practice of five daily prayers in mainstream Islam is derived from Hadith literature, not directly from the Quran."

GPT 4o

shukri

Marvelous!
Thanks my dear Emre and GPT 4o!
God bless you.

Quran guidance
3918 They are the ones who examine all words, then follow the best. These are the ones whom God has guided; these are the ones who possess intelligence.

So long!

Wakas

peace shukri,

With regard to timings if you find a better article than this I will be very surprised
https//mypercept.co.uk/articles/salat-timings-Quran.html

I posted it on this forum and offered $$$ for every error/flaw found. One person found a spelling mistake, that's it so far
https//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9610977.0

shukri

peace shukri,

With regard to timings if you find a better article than this I will be very surprised
https//mypercept.co.uk/articles/salat-timings-Quran.html

I posted it on this forum and offered $$$ for every error/flaw found. One person found a spelling mistake, that's it so far
https//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9610977.0

Thanks brother Wakas for the link
I have a glance on it
And it looks very comprehensive analysis

Since there is a lot of cross reference
I need time to ponder on it
And i will respond, if any

Also i interested to study the link you provided such as

"The following are some typical examples of articles arguing for 5 daily salat from The Quran
A) Joseph Islam http//quransmessage.com/articles/the%20five%20prayers%20from%20the%20quran%20FM3.htm (accessed Feb 9th 2014)
B) Muhammad Shaikh http//muhammadshaikh.com/english_pdf/salah_prayer.pdf
C) Rashad Khalifa et al http//submission.org/Where_can_we_find_Salah.html (very brief content regarding the timings)
D) Dr Ahmad Subhy Mansour http//www.ahl-alquran.com/English/show_article.php?main_id=8297
etc."

Very useful indeed for me
And I think this is the time i should relook into this matter again
And win your $$$, ahem!

Salam.

amin

Nothing is plain ritual, except if understood its purpose, the original Salat is to unite people and do reading moral and other aspects of nature including science, its an age old practice of the ancient world, whose purpose is lost and become meaningless in the new world and the plain ritual is retained by some.
Quran do not talk about the ritual in detail, means its the reality, it can be done in multiple ways and to the people's needs. Now a days we have modern schools which are in a way are Salat establishments but many had become business centers. So reading, accepting/submitting and doing as per whats learnt is what is Salat all about. One two three doesnt matter and not an important aspect, this is my current understanding.

shukri

"Information Only"

Question What is a minimum number of salats per day based on mathematical analysis?
Two or three!

Note
This analysis is made based on the keyword "the middle the salat (الصَّلوٰةِ الوُسطىٰ)", which is contested by many as not a name of salat in the Quran!
The word and the spelling of each parameter used is based on written text by Rashad Khalifa ... https//submission.org/QI
On-line calculator determine arabic gv https//www.abjadcalc.com
The gematrical value for alone hamza "ء" is 1, equal to gv for alif "ا" AND The gematrical value of "ة" is 5 (These gv values normally used by Rashad Khalifa).

(A) The number of salats in verse 2238
2238 You shall consistently observe the Contact Prayers, especially the middle prayer (الصَّلوٰةِ الوُسطىٰ), and devote yourselves totally to God (Rashad Khalifa translation)
(حٰفِظوا عَلَى الصَّلَوٰتِ وَالصَّلوٰةِ الوُسطىٰ وَقوموا لِلَّهِ قٰنِتينَ)

Add-up digit of verse 2238
2238 --> 2+2+3+8 = 15

(Case 1) ... three salats
Total gv for "salat al-Fajr" (صَلوٰةِ الفَجرِ) = 445
Total gv for "salat al-Isha" (صَلوٰةِ العِشاءِ) = 534
Total gv for "al-salat al-Wustha" (الصَّلوٰةِ الوُسطىٰ) = 278

445+534+278 = 1257
1257 --> 1+2+5+7 = 15

(Indication Since the add-up digit of total gv for three selected salats equal to add-up digit for verse 2238, we can assume that there are three intrinsic salats in verse 2238)

(Case 2) ... two salats without "al-salat al-Wustha"
Total gv for "salat al-Fajr" (صَلوٰةِ الفَجرِ) = 445
Total gv for "salat al-Isha" (صَلوٰةِ العِشاءِ) = 534

445+534 = 979
979 --> 9+7+9 = 25 (Not a digit of 15)

(Indication Since the add-up digit of total gv for two selected salats not of the digit 15, we can assume that the intrinsic salats in verse 2238 is not count of two)

(Case 3) ... Total gv for phrase "حٰفِظوا عَلَى الصَّلَوٰتِ" of verse 2238
2238 You shall consistently observe the Contact Prayers, especially the middle prayer (الصَّلوٰةِ الوُسطىٰ), and devote yourselves totally to God (Rashad Khalifa translation)
(حٰفِظوا عَلَى الصَّلَوٰتِ وَالصَّلوٰةِ الوُسطىٰ وَقوموا لِلَّهِ قٰنِتينَ)

Total gv for phrase (حٰفِظوا عَلَى الصَّلَوٰتِ) = 1662
1662 --> 1+6+6+2 = 15

(Indication Since the add-up digit of phrase "حٰفِظوا عَلَى الصَّلَوٰتِ" equal to digit of 15, we can conclude that the number of salats (الصَّلَوٰتِ) in this phrase is three i.e. salat al-Fajr, al-salat al-Wustha and salat al-Isha)

(B) The salat meant by the first phrase of verse 1778
1778 You shall observe the Prayer when the sun declines from its highest point at noon as it moves towards sunset. You shall also observe (the recitation of) the Quran at dawn. (Reciting) the Quran at dawn is witnessed (Rashad Khalifa translation)
(أَقِمِ الصَّلوٰةَ لِدُلوكِ الشَّمسِ إِلىٰ غَسَقِ الَّيلِ وَقُرءانَ الفَجرِ إِنَّ قُرءانَ الفَجرِ كانَ مَشهودًا)

Total gv for phrase (أَقِمِ الصَّلوٰةَ لِدُلوكِ الشَّمسِ إِلىٰ غَسَقِ الَّيلِ) = 2096
2096 --> 2+0+9+6 = 17

Total gv for "the-salat the-Wustha" (الصَّلوٰةِ الوُسطىٰ) = 278
278 --> 2+7+8 =17

(Indication The phrase of "أَقِمِ الصَّلوٰةَ لِدُلوكِ الشَّمسِ إِلىٰ غَسَقِ الَّيلِ" is referring to "the-salat the- Wustha")

(C) The word the middle "الوسطى" in verse 2238
2238 You shall consistently observe the Contact Prayers, especially the middle (الوسطى) prayer, and devote yourselves totally to God (Rashad Khalifa translation)

Total gv for "the middle" (الوسطى) = 116
116 --> 1+1+6 = 8

Total gv for "the noon" (الظهيرة) =1151
1151 -->1+1+5+1 = 8

(Indication The word "the middle الوسطى" is inter-related to the word "the noon الظهيرة")

The findings
(1) Based on the above analysis, the minimum number of salats in verse 2238 is three NOT two i.e. salat al-Fajr, al-salat al-Wustha and salat al-Isha
(2) The middle salat's time is stipulated by phrase "أَقِمِ الصَّلوٰةَ لِدُلوكِ الشَّمسِ إِلىٰ غَسَقِ الَّيلِ" of verse 1778 as the word "الوسطى" itself is inter-related to time of "the noon (الظهيرة)"

Just my brief/quick analysis
Maybe right, maybe wrong!
Thank you.

Wakas

You can see some common errors here
https//mypercept.co.uk/articles/problems-5-salat-Quran.html

It can also be used to see some problems for "3 daily" view.

shukri

You can see some common errors here
https//mypercept.co.uk/articles/problems-5-salat-Quran.html

It can also be used to see some problems for "3 daily" view.

Yes, I have seen the link
Thank you.

Since i do not know arabic, i cannot give any input based on linguistic aspect
So, i try to analyse through mathematical digits based on keyword "the salat the-wustha" given in verse 2238
which stipulated on point "11) B, C, D" in your article.

In fact, my previous posting on Reply #11 was to give input to your link ... https//mypercept.co.uk/articles/salat-timings-Quran.html
which you stated "Overwhelming evidence from The Quran suggests the regular/timed salat of the mumineen/believers is a minimum of twice daily, with an optional night vigil"

AND my finding, the minimum regular/timed were not of twice daily but thrice daily i.e. salat al-Fajr, al-salat al-Wustha and salat al-Isha.
That's all sir!

God bless you!
Salam!

Bajram_Hoxhaj

Add-up digit of verse 2238
2238 --> 2+2+3+8 = 15

484 verses digits equal 15

2 4 9 = 15
2 5 8 = 15
2 6 7 = 15
2 7 6 = 15
2 8 5 = 15
2 9 4 = 15
2 1 3 9 = 15
2 1 4 8 = 15
2 1 5 7 = 15
2 1 6 6 = 15
2 1 7 5 = 15
2 1 8 4 = 15
2 1 9 3 = 15
2 2 2 9 = 15
2 2 3 8 = 15
2 2 4 7 = 15
2 2 5 6 = 15
2 2 6 5 = 15
2 2 7 4 = 15
2 2 8 3 = 15

3 3 9 = 15
3 4 8 = 15
3 5 7 = 15
3 6 6 = 15
3 7 5 = 15
3 8 4 = 15
3 9 3 = 15
3 1 2 9 = 15
3 1 3 8 = 15
3 1 4 7 = 15
3 1 5 6 = 15
3 1 6 5 = 15
3 1 7 4 = 15
3 1 8 3 = 15
3 1 9 2 = 15

4 2 9 = 15
4 3 8 = 15
4 4 7 = 15
4 5 6 = 15
4 6 5 = 15
4 7 4 = 15
4 8 3 = 15
4 9 2 = 15
4 1 1 9 = 15
4 1 2 8 = 15
4 1 3 7 = 15
4 1 4 6 = 15
4 1 5 5 = 15
4 1 6 4 = 15
4 1 7 3 = 15

5 1 9 = 15
5 2 8 = 15
5 3 7 = 15
5 4 6 = 15
5 5 5 = 15
5 6 4 = 15
5 7 3 = 15
5 8 2 = 15
5 9 1 = 15
5 1 0 9 = 15
5 1 1 8 = 15

6 9 = 15
6 1 8 = 15
6 2 7 = 15
6 3 6 = 15
6 4 5 = 15
6 5 4 = 15
6 6 3 = 15
6 7 2 = 15
6 8 1 = 15
6 9 0 = 15
6 1 0 8 = 15
6 1 1 7 = 15
6 1 2 6 = 15
6 1 3 5 = 15
6 1 4 4 = 15
6 1 5 3 = 15
6 1 6 2 = 15

7 8 = 15
7 1 7 = 15
7 2 6 = 15
7 3 5 = 15
7 4 4 = 15
7 5 3 = 15
7 6 2 = 15
7 7 1 = 15
7 8 0 = 15
7 1 0 7 = 15
7 1 1 6 = 15
7 1 2 5 = 15
7 1 3 4 = 15
7 1 4 3 = 15
7 1 5 2 = 15
7 1 6 1 = 15
7 1 7 0 = 15
7 2 0 6 = 15

8 7 = 15
8 1 6 = 15
8 2 5 = 15
8 3 4 = 15
8 4 3 = 15
8 5 2 = 15
8 6 1 = 15
8 7 0 = 15

9 6 = 15
9 1 5 = 15
9 2 4 = 15
9 3 3 = 15
9 4 2 = 15
9 5 1 = 15
9 6 0 = 15
9 1 0 5 = 15
9 1 1 4 = 15
9 1 2 3 = 15

1 0 5 9 = 15
1 0 6 8 = 15
1 0 7 7 = 15
1 0 8 6 = 15
1 0 9 5 = 15
1 1 4 9 = 15
1 1 5 8 = 15
1 1 6 7 = 15
1 1 7 6 = 15
1 1 8 5 = 15
1 1 9 4 = 15
1 2 3 9 = 15
1 2 4 8 = 15
1 2 5 7 = 15
1 2 6 6 = 15
1 2 7 5 = 15
1 2 8 4 = 15
1 2 9 3 = 15
1 3 2 9 = 15
1 3 3 8 = 15
1 4 1 9 = 15
1 4 2 8 = 15
1 4 3 7 = 15
1 4 4 6 = 15
1 5 9 = 15
1 5 1 8 = 15
1 5 2 7 = 15
1 5 3 6 = 15
1 5 4 5 = 15
1 5 5 4 = 15
1 5 6 3 = 15
1 5 7 2 = 15
1 5 8 1 = 15
1 5 9 0 = 15
1 6 8 = 15
1 6 1 7 = 15
1 6 2 6 = 15
1 6 3 5 = 15
1 6 4 4 = 15
1 6 5 3 = 15
1 6 6 2 = 15
1 6 7 1 = 15
1 6 8 0 = 15
1 6 1 0 7 = 15
1 6 1 1 6 = 15
1 6 1 2 5 = 15
1 7 7 = 15
1 7 1 6 = 15
1 7 2 5 = 15
1 7 3 4 = 15
1 7 4 3 = 15
1 7 5 2 = 15
1 7 6 1 = 15
1 7 7 0 = 15
1 7 1 0 6 = 15
1 8 6 = 15
1 8 1 5 = 15
1 8 2 4 = 15
1 8 3 3 = 15
1 8 4 2 = 15
1 8 5 1 = 15
1 8 6 0 = 15
1 8 1 0 5 = 15
1 9 5 = 15
1 9 1 4 = 15
1 9 2 3 = 15
1 9 3 2 = 15
1 9 4 1 = 15
1 9 5 0 = 15

2 0 4 9 = 15
2 0 5 8 = 15
2 0 6 7 = 15
2 0 7 6 = 15
2 0 8 5 = 15
2 0 9 4 = 15
2 1 3 9 = 15
2 1 4 8 = 15
2 1 5 7 = 15
2 1 6 6 = 15
2 1 7 5 = 15
2 1 8 4 = 15
2 1 9 3 = 15
2 2 2 9 = 15
2 2 3 8 = 15
2 2 4 7 = 15
2 2 5 6 = 15
2 2 6 5 = 15
2 2 7 4 = 15
2 3 1 9 = 15
2 3 2 8 = 15
2 3 3 7 = 15
2 3 4 6 = 15
2 3 5 5 = 15
2 3 6 4 = 15
2 3 7 3 = 15
2 3 8 2 = 15
2 3 9 1 = 15
2 3 1 0 9 = 15
2 3 1 1 8 = 15
2 4 9 = 15
2 4 1 8 = 15
2 4 2 7 = 15
2 4 3 6 = 15
2 4 4 5 = 15
2 4 5 4 = 15
2 4 6 3 = 15
2 5 8 = 15
2 5 1 7 = 15
2 5 2 6 = 15
2 5 3 5 = 15
2 5 4 4 = 15
2 5 5 3 = 15
2 5 6 2 = 15
2 5 7 1 = 15
2 6 7 = 15
2 6 1 6 = 15
2 6 2 5 = 15
2 6 3 4 = 15
2 6 4 3 = 15
2 6 5 2 = 15
2 6 6 1 = 15
2 6 7 0 = 15
2 6 1 0 6 = 15
2 6 1 1 5 = 15
2 6 1 2 4 = 15
2 6 1 3 3 = 15
2 6 1 4 2 = 15
2 6 1 5 1 = 15
2 6 1 6 0 = 15
2 6 2 0 5 = 15
2 6 2 1 4 = 15
2 6 2 2 3 = 15
2 7 6 = 15
2 7 1 5 = 15
2 7 2 4 = 15
2 7 3 3 = 15
2 7 4 2 = 15
2 7 5 1 = 15
2 7 6 0 = 15
2 8 5 = 15
2 8 1 4 = 15
2 8 2 3 = 15
2 8 3 2 = 15
2 8 4 1 = 15
2 8 5 0 = 15
2 9 4 = 15
2 9 1 3 = 15
2 9 2 2 = 15
2 9 3 1 = 15
2 9 4 0 = 15

3 0 3 9 = 15
3 0 4 8 = 15
3 0 5 7 = 15
3 1 2 9 = 15
3 2 1 9 = 15
3 2 2 8 = 15
3 3 9 = 15
3 3 1 8 = 15
3 3 2 7 = 15
3 3 3 6 = 15
3 3 4 5 = 15
3 3 5 4 = 15
3 3 6 3 = 15
3 3 7 2 = 15
3 4 8 = 15
3 4 1 7 = 15
3 4 2 6 = 15
3 4 3 5 = 15
3 4 4 4 = 15
3 4 5 3 = 15
3 5 7 = 15
3 5 1 6 = 15
3 5 2 5 = 15
3 5 3 4 = 15
3 5 4 3 = 15
3 6 6 = 15
3 6 1 5 = 15
3 6 2 4 = 15
3 6 3 3 = 15
3 6 4 2 = 15
3 6 5 1 = 15
3 6 6 0 = 15
3 7 5 = 15
3 7 1 4 = 15
3 7 2 3 = 15
3 7 3 2 = 15
3 7 4 1 = 15
3 7 5 0 = 15
3 7 1 0 4 = 15
3 7 1 1 3 = 15
3 7 1 2 2 = 15
3 7 1 3 1 = 15
3 7 1 4 0 = 15
3 8 4 = 15
3 8 1 3 = 15
3 8 2 2 = 15
3 8 3 1 = 15
3 8 4 0 = 15
3 9 3 = 15
3 9 1 2 = 15
3 9 2 1 = 15
3 9 3 0 = 15

4 0 2 9 = 15
4 0 3 8 = 15
4 0 4 7 = 15
4 0 5 6 = 15
4 0 6 5 = 15
4 0 7 4 = 15
4 0 8 3 = 15
4 1 1 9 = 15
4 1 2 8 = 15
4 1 3 7 = 15
4 1 4 6 = 15
4 2 9 = 15
4 2 1 8 = 15
4 2 2 7 = 15
4 2 3 6 = 15
4 2 4 5 = 15
4 3 8 = 15
4 3 1 7 = 15
4 3 2 6 = 15
4 3 3 5 = 15
4 3 4 4 = 15
4 3 5 3 = 15
4 3 6 2 = 15
4 3 7 1 = 15
4 3 8 0 = 15
4 4 7 = 15
4 4 1 6 = 15
4 4 2 5 = 15
4 4 3 4 = 15
4 4 4 3 = 15
4 4 5 2 = 15
4 5 6 = 15
4 5 1 5 = 15
4 5 2 4 = 15
4 5 3 3 = 15
4 6 5 = 15
4 6 1 4 = 15
4 6 2 3 = 15
4 6 3 2 = 15
4 7 4 = 15
4 7 1 3 = 15
4 7 2 2 = 15
4 7 3 1 = 15
4 8 3 = 15
4 8 1 2 = 15
4 8 2 1 = 15
4 9 2 = 15
4 9 1 1 = 15

5 0 1 9 = 15
5 0 2 8 = 15
5 0 3 7 = 15
5 1 9 = 15
5 1 1 8 = 15
5 1 2 7 = 15
5 1 3 6 = 15
5 1 4 5 = 15
5 1 5 4 = 15
5 2 8 = 15
5 2 1 7 = 15
5 2 2 6 = 15
5 2 3 5 = 15
5 2 4 4 = 15
5 3 7 = 15
5 3 1 6 = 15
5 3 2 5 = 15
5 3 3 4 = 15
5 3 4 3 = 15
5 3 5 2 = 15
5 3 6 1 = 15
5 4 6 = 15
5 4 1 5 = 15
5 4 2 4 = 15
5 4 3 3 = 15
5 4 4 2 = 15
5 4 5 1 = 15
5 5 5 = 15
5 5 1 4 = 15
5 5 2 3 = 15
5 5 3 2 = 15
5 5 4 1 = 15
5 5 5 0 = 15
5 6 4 = 15
5 6 1 3 = 15
5 6 2 2 = 15
5 6 3 1 = 15
5 6 4 0 = 15
5 7 3 = 15
5 7 1 2 = 15
5 7 2 1 = 15
5 8 2 = 15
5 8 1 1 = 15
5 8 2 0 = 15
5 9 1 = 15
5 9 1 0 = 15

6 0 9 = 15
6 1 8 = 15
6 2 7 = 15
6 3 6 = 15
6 4 5 = 15
6 4 1 4 = 15
6 5 4 = 15
6 6 3 = 15
6 6 1 2 = 15
6 7 2 = 15
6 7 1 1 = 15
6 7 2 0 = 15
6 8 1 = 15
6 8 1 0 = 15
6 9 0 = 15

7 0 8 = 15
7 0 1 7 = 15
7 0 2 6 = 15
7 0 3 5 = 15
7 0 4 4 = 15
7 1 7 = 15
7 1 1 6 = 15
7 1 2 5 = 15
7 2 6 = 15
7 2 1 5 = 15
7 2 2 4 = 15
7 3 5 = 15
7 3 1 4 = 15
7 4 4 = 15
7 4 1 3 = 15
7 4 2 2 = 15
7 4 3 1 = 15
7 4 4 0 = 15
7 5 3 = 15
7 5 1 2 = 15
7 5 2 1 = 15
7 5 3 0 = 15
7 6 2 = 15
7 6 1 1 = 15
7 6 2 0 = 15
7 7 1 = 15
7 7 1 0 = 15

8 0 7 = 15
8 0 1 6 = 15
8 0 2 5 = 15
8 0 3 4 = 15
8 1 6 = 15
8 1 1 5 = 15
8 1 2 4 = 15
8 2 5 = 15
8 2 1 4 = 15
8 3 4 = 15
8 3 1 3 = 15
8 3 2 2 = 15
8 3 3 1 = 15
8 4 3 = 15
8 4 1 2 = 15
8 4 2 1 = 15
8 5 2 = 15
8 5 1 1 = 15
8 5 2 0 = 15
8 6 1 = 15
8 6 1 0 = 15

9 0 6 = 15
9 0 1 5 = 15
9 1 5 = 15
9 1 1 4 = 15
9 2 4 = 15
9 2 1 3 = 15
9 3 3 = 15
9 4 2 = 15
9 5 1 = 15

1 0 7 7 = 15
1 0 9 5 = 15

21 الم alif lam meem (with next verse in oldest manuscripts)
such the writ not doubt therein guidance for the righteous

https//corpuscoranicum.de/en/verse-navigator/sura/2/verse/1/manuscripts/116/page/1v

https//i.postimg.cc/3JnJzDpP/ch2v1.jpg

shukri

Brother Wakas,

My posting on reply #13 was not meant to debunk your finding
But to give an input based on mathematical analysis as a comparison

AND the main purpose is just to prove to myself that the number of salat in the Quran is three times per day and my reference article below has merit.
https//www.quran-islam.org/main_topics/islam/pillars/number_of_salat_(P1200).html

Thanks.

shukri

484 verses digits equal 15

2 4 9 = 15
2 5 8 = 15
2 6 7 = 15
2 7 6 = 15
2 8 5 = 15
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Except verse 2238, which one in the list or in the whole Quran has the words "the middle the salat (الصَّلوٰةِ الوُصطىٰ)"
The "the middle the salat (الصَّلوٰةِ الوُسطىٰ)" is my keyword in my analysis!

Thanks.

Bajram_Hoxhaj

Except verse 2238, which one in the list or in the whole Quran has the words "the middle the salat (الصَّلوٰةِ الوُصطىٰ)"
The "the middle the salat (الصَّلوٰةِ الوُسطىٰ)" is my keyword in my analysis!

Thanks.

So what? Since you're into 19

الصلوه gv 162 (1+6+2 = 9)
and occurs 64 (6+4 = 10) times

Therefore; 9 + 10 = 19

162 64 = 19 x 856 (8+5+6 = 19)

2458 (2+4+5+8 = 19) where "two" are mentioned

445 (4+4+5 = 13) Şalāati Al-Fajri (صَلوٰةِ الفَجرِ)
534 (5+3+4 = 12) Şalāati Al-`Ishā'i (صَلوٰةِ العِشاءِ)

445 534 13 12 = 19 x 234491648

979 (9+7+9 = 25)

25 979
25 445 534 = 19 x 136732918186

صَلوٰةِ الفَجرِ صَلوٰةِ العِشاءِ

19 letters!
1 90306400 2 130803200 3 90306400 4 1307030011 = 19 x ...
1 90306400 1234 2 130803200 12345 3 90306400 1234 4 1307030011 123456 = 19 x ...

Salaam

shukri

So what? Since you're into 19

الصلوه gv 162 (1+6+2 = 9)
and occurs 64 (6+4 = 10) times

Therefore; 9 + 10 = 19

162 64 = 19 x 856 (8+5+6 = 19)

bla bla bla

Show me where in my posting on Reply #11 i used Code 19?

Please sir don't make a comment just for the sake of provocation!
OR Are you a scammer in this forum?

Note
If you don't answer my question properly on Reply #16 i will not entertain you anymore!

Bajram_Hoxhaj

Show me where in my posting on Reply #11 i used Code 19?

Blah Blah Blah

That was to show same nonsense and digit flipping can be used for anything. You can run away like you did on that bismillah thread where I showed you how easy it is and the 1/19 probability. I don’t care if you respond or not although don’t come here post conjecture and call it analysis. nope