i put the MESSAGE in REVELATION order
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AS SALAAM O ALAIKOM
i have had the plesure of putting the QURAAN in revelation order, but while i was doing it i notice a few MISTAKES in the MESSAGE, that i down loaded, and i was wondering why it is labeled CHAPTERS and not SURA?
The MISTAKES where spelling ERRORS, but other than that i really enjoy this new TRANSLATION, seeing how i have used Dr. Khalifah's translation Faithfully, which by the way is still one of my other FAVORITE translations.
We of the Ebaadu Rahmanii believe the relevation order QURAAN is the SELF TEACHING QURAAN, in fact i refer to it as EMMANUEL or ELLAH with US. i was supposed to do it like 2 years ago, but i got side tracked, so i had to sit in the Belly of A fish untill i did the mission ELLAH sent me to do! AS i OVER-stand it imam Ali ben Talib had a revelation order Quraan, so i do believe that my work will have an impact on the MUSLIM as well as the rest of the WORLD.
i do not see myself like the good Dr, but i do know that ELLAH has sent me to be ONE of the OUT STREACHED ARM(s) of the LORD, my time is short and insha ellah i have done most if not all that my LORD has sent me to do, i pray that in the comming days, weeks months and years that this WORK will serve as the ARC of the COVENANT did for the BENI YISROEL, we take it out before us and our ENEMIES are scattered.
I ask that you all pray for our WORK, our MISSION, and our FINAL out COME. AS we are Praying for all the FORCES of CHANGE with in the UMMAH who are members of this QURAAN alone movement.
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Peace Ebad,
The MISTAKES where spelling ERRORS, but other than that i really enjoy this new TRANSLATION, seeing how i have used Dr. Khalifah's translation Faithfully, which by the way is still one of my other FAVORITE translations.
Can you please point out the spelling mistakes so they may be corrected asap.
Either post them here or e-mail them to me at [email protected]
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SALAAM,
i am a long time advocate of QURAAN alone, i do believe that myself and my ex-wife started about the same time is brother Layth and we have been able to off and on send e-mails to him, i do believe our oldest child is the same age as his.
Anyhow i came to QURAAN alone because of my ex-wife, i never really liked all the MOHAMMAD talk in the sunni circle, but i was a RETIRED GANGSTER and SUNNISM was very close to my Ex-Gangster ways, so i settled for a short time in the Sunni community of Imam JAMIL abdu AL AMIN, who by the WAY are more GANGSTER SUNNI then anything elese.
WHEN i did come over, i did not like the FOLLOWERS of Dr. KHALIFAH treating me like i was an IDIOT!, so we Started our OWN GROUP, we have had a number of diffrent names before we settled on Ebaadi, and it was just recently that we added RAHMANII to become the Ebadu el RAHMANII.
I enjoy FREE MINDS because yall see a lot of the QURAAN as we DO, like JERUSLEM being the place of Pilgrimage and other thoughts like that. WE differ with other QUraan alone in that we recite QURAAN in REVELATION ORDER! and WE BELIEVE that this CONSTITUTES EMMANUEL, we found the REVELATION ORDER in the Dr. KHALIFAH translation in the APENDIX.
as for the SPELLING MISTAKES i will have to back track my latest RECITATIONS, but INSHA ELLAH i will find the ERRORS again, i had ment to correct them with a pen so i could remember where they where. I'll just make a dua and ask ELLAH to direct me to them again. and when i find them i will let you all know.
I a Proud to have this TRANSLATION and to be able to put it in REVELATION ORDER, as i have tired so many times with the Dr. Khalifah Translation(maybe was not ELLAH's will). The fact that i was able to put the WORK together in 4 days is a sign for me that this is a Mighty work indeed, seeing how i have done the LAST 5 RAHMADANs using the regularly accepted sequence which is much more difficult to do. NOW i can't wait for the return of the MONTH of the QURAN so i can recite it stright through, as each time reveals something new to me(elhamdullilah)
I Thank ELLAH and the FOLKS who did this TRANSLATION for giving me the chance to fullfill my PART in this ongoing DRAMA!
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Post by Saim Bakar
Quranites, Kryptonites, Cryptic Nites and ?No Quran? Knights Muslim ? a name given by Allah.
Salam all,
I have been following the discussion on what to call us ? the people who believe only in Allah, the Rasul and the Quran. Some have said that we are Quranites.
Let us seek guidance from the Quran about names. Names are important. We should call people by the names they have taken for themselves. Only in some cases if a name is given by God Almighty, then we should call people by the correct name God has given them.
For example the Quran does not say ?Christian?. The correct name for some of the people who confounded Allah?s teachings is ?nasara?. The followers of Jesus were Muslims.
Again names are important.
O you who believe! let not (one) people laugh at (another) people perchance they may be better than they, nor let women (laugh) at (other) women, perchance they may be better than they; and do not find fault with your own people nor call one another by nicknames; evil is a bad name after faith, and whoever does not turn, these it is that are the unjust
So we should not call people by nicknames and bad names which they never gave themselves. We should call people by the names they have taken. The ahlus sunnah wal jamaah are very proud to call themselves ahlus sunnah wal jamaah. So we should call them by the name they have taken for themselves ie ahlus sunnah wal jamaah.
Those who believe in Allah, the Rasul and the Quran are Muslims. The Quran tells us so.
22.78] And strive hard in (the way of) Allah, (such) a striving a is due to Him; He has chosen you and has not laid upon you an hardship in religion; the faith of your father Ibrahim; He named you Muslims (huwa samma kumu muslimuun) before and in this, that the Apostle may be a bearer of witness to you, and you may be bearers of witness to the people; therefore keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate and hold fast by Allah; He is your Guardian; how excellent the Guardian and how excellent the Helper.
The name ?Muslim? has been given to us by Allah. We should be very proud of this name and wear it on our lapels proudly. Allah has approved Islam
This day have I perfected for you your way of life (deen) and completed My favor on you and chosen for you Islam as a way of life (deen)..
So God has chosen for us Islam as our way of life. Therefore He calls us Muslims (2278 above).
Surely the (true) deen with Allah is Islam, and those to whom the Book had been given did not show opposition but after knowledge had come to them, out of envy among themselves; and whoever disbelieves in the communications of Allah then surely Allah is quick in reckoning
The only deen acceptable with Allah is Islam. Hence again we can only be Muslims.
And whoever desires a deen other than Islam, it shall not be accepted from him, and in the hereafter he shall be one of the losers
We cannot be anything else at all except Muslims. Hence the people who call themselves ahlus sunnah wal jamaah, shiah, qadiani, ahmadiya, wahhabi, salafi, sufi etc are NOT part of Islam. They call themselves something else.
However we shall show respect to their names by calling them with their chosen names ie ahlus sunnah wal jamaah, shiah, salafiyah, wahhabi, ahmadiyah, qadiani, suufi, etc.
As for the suggestion that those who believe in the Allah, the Rasul and the Quran should take other names like Quranites etc is not proper.
Huwa samma kumu MUSLIMUUN which means IT IS HE (ALLAH) WHO HAS NAMED YOU MUSLIMS.
This is a great honour for us. No less than Allah Himself has named us Muslims. Therefore we must be very proud to call ourselves just Muslims.
Saim Bakar.
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Salaam,
We of the Ebadu el Rahmanii have always taught that this Ayat means that Ibrahiim named us MUSLIMS, as he was the Subject of the previous Sentence. WHy would the Subject be Ibrahiim then right away the ProNoun(HUWA/HE) mean ELLAH? That would be confussing, as well as more in Line with the MOhammadan Tasfir.
We do believe that before Ibrahiim there where muslims such as Adam and Noah, but they where known as Hanufa and that it was Imam Ibrahiim who Systemized the Hanufa into what we call ISLAM and named it's Devotees Muslims, that is why in 16123 Ellah says "Then We INSPIRED you to follow the MIllata Ibrahiim Hanifa.
Of course i am an Advocate of 37 and the Majority of the Ayats being STRIGHT FOWARD VERSES, that being said COMMON sense dictates that the HE in 2277 is speaking of Ibrahiim and not of El-Rahmanii.
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Peace,
We of the Ebadu el Rahmanii have always taught that this Ayat means that Ibrahiim named us MUSLIMS, as he was the Subject of the previous Sentence. WHy would the Subject be Ibrahiim then right away the ProNoun(HUWA/HE) mean ELLAH? That would be confussing, as well as more in Line with the MOhammadan Tasfir.
Ibrahim is not the subject in this sign and how do you render ?wa min qablu??
Literally speaking, God has not ?named? you muslims. He has described/designated you as surrenderers (coining an English word) for Him. God does not have ?names?, only descriptions. We are not told to remember or mention His name, but to remember His descriptions.
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Peace Grourself
Peace
We are not told to remember or mention His name, but to remember His descriptions.53
They ask you what was made lawful to them, Say "All the good things have been made lawful for you, and what the trained dogs and birds catch, you teach them from what God teaches you." So eat from what they have captured for you and mention God's name upon it, and be aware of God. God is quick in reckoning. -
Peace Tux,
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They ask you what was made lawful to them, Say "All the good things have been made lawful for you, and what the trained dogs and birds catch, you teach them from what God teaches you." So eat from what they have captured for you and mention God's name upon it, and be aware of God. God is quick in reckoning.This is a typical incorrect translation of words and an incorrect concept has been fostered. The oft-repeated phrase is not enjoining mentioning the ?name? of God over anything. Dh-k-r=remember, remind, keep in mind, etc. not mention or pronounce as some have rendered it. God has told us to remember what He as described/designated over the use of any of the provisions He has given His creation. You will find that A-k-l is not eat but use or utilize. God is very specific and uses T-?A-M for food or eating and A-k-L for using or otherwise consuming. The ritualistic practice of saying "bismillah" over things is a misconception. The evidence in the reading is overwhelming and I will provide a full article very soon. ) In the meantime I hope you are following this understanding and I if I have the time I will address any questions you have that relate to this.
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This is a typical incorrect translation of words and an incorrect concept has been fostered. The oft-repeated phrase is not enjoining mentioning the ?name? of God over anything. Dh-k-r=remember, remind, keep in mind, etc. not mention or pronounce as some have rendered it.
Khi- One of the meanings of the Arabic word 'Dhikr' is clearly '2 mention'. This shows ignorance of Arabic language. Consider this following verse
Mention(Azkur) in the scripture Mary. She isolated herself from her family, into an eastern location.
Does GOD want us 2 remeber Mary in the scripture or simply make mention of her? Obviously the 2nd since we r 2 commemorate GOD alone. Again the meaning of the word varies with context. GOD Bless! -
Peace,
If I follow your line of reasoning then we can throw Consistency out the window. Shades of meanings yes, remember does not change into pronouce which is what you mean when you say mention in the sign in question. It's still remember and it's an action not a verbal pronouciation. Try saying you are eating and don't eat and see what becomes of you.
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Peace Grourself
Peace Tux,
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They ask you what was made lawful to them, Say "All the good things have been made lawful for you, and what the trained dogs and birds catch, you teach them from what God teaches you." So eat from what they have captured for you and mention God's name upon it, and be aware of God. God is quick in reckoning.This is a typical incorrect translation of words and an incorrect concept has been fostered. The oft-repeated phrase is not enjoining mentioning the ?name? of God over anything. Dh-k-r=remember, remind, keep in mind, etc. not mention or pronounce as some have rendered it. God has told us to remember what He as described/designated over the use of any of the provisions He has given His creation. You will find that A-k-l is not eat but use or utilize. God is very specific and uses T-?A-M for food or eating and A-k-L for using or otherwise consuming. The ritualistic practice of saying "bismillah" over things is a misconception. The evidence in the reading is overwhelming and I will provide a full article very soon. In the meantime I hope you are following this understanding and I if I have the time I will address any questions you have that relate to this.
Thanks for clarifying.
