The Paradox
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Peace All,
Just an old exercise to strengthen the philosophical muscles
Can God create a stone that even God cannot lift?
Peace Tay
the answer is Yes. God can create a stone that even God cannot lift. However, he would still be able to lift it. wink
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Peace Truth,
You've been clear, concise, and logically sound. Everything I didn't want to hear! cry
Where's the fun in that?
Joking aside, you've very cleverly answered the seeming paradox by disintegrating the foundation it stands on. This is probably the best answer I've ever heard to this question.
In the same regard, let me pose you with a riddle
John, Joe, and Jack rented a room. The room cost $30.00. They chipped in $10.00 each. The clerk realized that he had overcharged them. He asked the bellboy to return $5.00 to the men. The bellboy decided to keep $2.00, and return $1.00 to each of the men. 2+1+1+1=5
In the end, the men end up spending $9.00 each (10-1=9), and the bellboy kept $2.00.
Joe- $9.00
John- $9.00
Jack- $9.00
Bellboy- $2.009*3=27
27+2=29Where's the missing dollar?
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Peace Someone,
Let me break it down for you
Hotel fee $30.00
Split between 3 people $10.00 each
Rebate $5.00
Bellboy keeps $2.00 and returns the remaining $3.00 to the 3 people.
New split between 3 people $9.00 each (10 original, -1 from the bellboy)
Bellboy kept $2.00
3*9+2=29
there's one dollar missing
enjoy wink
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John, Joe, and Jack rented a room. The room cost $30.00. They chipped in $10.00 each. The clerk realized that he had overcharged them. He asked the bellboy to return $5.00 to the men. The bellboy decided to keep $2.00, and return $1.00 to each of the men. 2+1+1+1=5
In the end, the men end up spending $9.00 each (10-1=9), and the bellboy kept $2.00.
Joe- $9.00
John- $9.00
Jack- $9.00
Bellboy- $2.009*3=27
27+2=29Where's the missing dollar?
Well there is no missing dollar. It's true that each of them paid $9 in the end - therefore a total of $27 is paid to the hotel.
The hotel keeper has $25 and the bell boy has stolen $2 = $27
Again it's the way the final question is asked that confuses the issue )
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Peace Truth,
Again it's the way the final question is asked that confuses the issue )
This is true. But with math being concrete, the problem should not arise, right? I mean when we say the clerk has 25, and the bellboy has 2, and the 3 guests have 3, then it's easy to see 25+2+3=30. But when worded differently and approached with a different formula, we lose a dollar.
Would you say that the formula I chose is wrong for this problem?
Peace,
Tay -
It's the introduction of the bellboy's money where the problem occurs.
See the 3 men are the payers of the money whereas the bellboy is not a payer but in effect a payee - he receives, as does the clerk.
Therefore the payers have paid (10-1) + (10-1) + (10-1) = 27
and the recipients have received 25 + 2 = 27.
So the way it is summed in the end of the anecdote is incorrect.
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Peace Tay, all,
Yes, the forumula you presented was wrong, which is why it gave a wrong answer.
The men ended up spending $27 ($9 each) = $25 + $2 once the refund was given.
There were two incorrect steps in the formula. The first was to assume that what they had spent was $30, even though they had only spent $27. The second was to add $2 to what they had spent in total ($27), to try and get a number ($30) which they hadn't spent.I'm not sure if that was clear?
Here's an example that may make things clearer.
4 men pay $40. turns out they should have only paid $30. bellboy keeps $6 and returns $4. Therefore each man only paid $9.
$9 x 4 = $36
bellboy has $6.total must be 36 + 6 = $42??
How did $2 appear magically out of thin air?
.....Now here is a real good one...
How much wood would a woodchuck chuck, if a woodchuck could chuck wood? lol
peace
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Peace Truth, David
I was trying to be difficult twisted
Truth stated
say " Irish wristwatch " 3 times as fast as you can.
Irish wristwatch
Irish wisswash
Iris rich rachThat was easy!
David stated
How much wood would a woodchuck chuck, if a woodchuck could chuck wood?
4?
Peace,
Tay -
Hello All,
I was asked this riddle when I was a child. I believe I have now have the anwer!
The Dollar simply leaked out of this Universe into 11 dimensational space-time continuum -)
But here is one I would like to put to everyone What is the speed of Dark?
Regards,
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I was being frivolous with my question of speed of dark but on serious note though we find that in scripture that God separated Light from Darkness as if darkness was a separate entity.
As for the question can God create a stone that he can't lift? the answer as have been said is bound upon in the "anthropomorphic" nature of the question itself. But I also think this type of question only arises when we view God as a separate entity that is "out there" in a separate ontological sphere. If God is bound upon with everything that exists then this type of question I think is not relevant but it is by virtue of this types of questioning we come to the Idea of a God that is above all human description and comparisons...
As for the dollar question the seeming paradox lies in the "misdirection" of the orginal question. But its fun in trying to "solve" them.
Regards,