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    sheena
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    Salam all,

    All my family members take me as kafeer & shun me away.
    But the truth will prevail. God willing they will also one day find the truth.
    I love my family too & though conflict of understanding - they will always be in my heart.
    Whatever is happening now is a test from God.

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      Layth
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      Peace Shhena,

      Firstly, welcome )

      There is no such a thing as a ritual prayer. But when reading thru "The Message" contact method is mentioned countless times.
      What is "contact method" in this context?

      You are correct there is no such thing as 'ritual prayer'. But who said Salat was a 'ritual prayer'?

      Prayer is allowed to be done as and when you need it...No restrictions, no time, no method.

      Salat on the other hand is a very detailed procedure involving a call, ablution, state of mind, and specific timings.

      The two are not the same.

      Also, I have mentioned on several occasions that Salat has been decreed for the 'Mumineen', and that 'Mumineen' is a higher state of submission that simply a 'Muslim'.

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        loli
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        I just registered today.
        I am just seeking solace from friends out there sharing the same fate.
        At least I do not feel alone.

        salaam sheena,

        You will never walk alone . Just to make you feel close, im currently in Johor, just a stone throw away from singapore.

        welcome to the forum.

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          adik_awang
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          salam sheena,

          And i'm in Pahang, down south close to the Endau-Rompin area. Not exactly a stone's throw away, but close by. Welcome to the forum. Unlike you, i don't have the guts yet to inform my family members about my belief which i have kept under wraps the past 5 years. In all those years i have managed to meet up with only one like-minded soul who, perchance, happened to share the same sporting interest as I do - we are avid golfers.

          Once again, welcome to the forum.

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            sheena
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            alhamdullilah,

            I have friends & brothers around me.
            This is the best news I have heard so far.

            I shall forward my private e-mail address to the brothers in mlaysia.

            4 now my pc is infected. I am using the co's p.c so it is not right.

            Sekali lagi terimakasih for the support , nak sekali dari seberang.

            Saya doa kan kita semua akan di beri ganjaran/ilmu yg. sewajar nya dari Allah.

            Insyallah.

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              sheena
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              Salam,
              People around me smirk & says things like...."Ur new found religion is so good ....No need to pray & fast... U can drink & eat pork as much as u want"

              When I encounter an unpleasant test from God.... Family says things like...."All this are ur doing.... U are not on the right track that is why so many bad things are happening to u. U are wrong & God is punishing U"

              An Alegrian woman once told me... "In Algeria u would be label a kafeer & will be executed."

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                TheNabi
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                Salaam,

                Can they deny that bad or hard things happen to good and bad people alike ?

                Joe

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                  dhanti
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                  Apa kabar Sheena,

                  Welcome to forum...selamat datang...

                  I am around you too.......I am in Jakarta, Indonesia, we can learn together with lovely friends around the world.

                  I thought S'pore people can not speak "bahasa melayu" well..... lol

                  Salam,
                  Dhanti

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                    sheena
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                    Terima kasih Dhanti,

                    Siapa kata kami enggak bisa berbicara Melayu....

                    Ya, saya harap2 dapat pelajari dari forum ini dan juga berkenalan dengan rakan2 seperti kamu & lain2.

                    So far I received walm welcome from friends around the world! WOW!
                    Great ya.... but never forget that the reason why we are in the forum... to learn the truth about God.

                    Saya jugak bisa ngomomg Jawa deh..... )

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                      sheena
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                      Salam,

                      How have the God alone system changed me?

                      I am more at peace now. Whatever comes I take it as from God. The good things & bad things in life are a test from God.

                      I am more appreciative of life & always thank God for all the things that I have been bestowed. Whether it is small or big. In sickness & happiness I thank God.

                      I may not be as rich as the girl next door but hey I am still breathing & I am at my peak of health... So why should I complain?

                      The smirks that people around gave me only shows their ignorance.

                      Although I do not go around preaching or telling the world that I no longer believe in the hadiths but I always try to make them understand or try to understand why they are so unresponsive towards the system that I believe in.

                      I never mock others or put anyone down and I try to be as humble as possible.

                      Sometimes I miss those times when we will all wake up real early in the morning to rush to the stadium to do our Eid's prayers. But it is slipping away now.

                      Salam & I pray all the best to all the brothers/sisters in the same boat.

                      We may not have friends or relatives around but we have the essence of God around us & that is the best that anyone can ask for.

                      P.s. I feel like crying. cry

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                        loli
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                        Salam,
                        People around me smirk & says things like...."Ur new found religion is so good ....No need to pray & fast... U can drink & eat pork as much as u want"

                        When I encounter an unpleasant test from God.... Family says things like...."All this are ur doing.... U are not on the right track that is why so many bad things are happening to u. U are wrong & God is punishing U"

                        An Alegrian woman once told me... "In Algeria u would be label a kafeer & will be executed."

                        I hate it when people start to judge when the don't know what they dont know/understand what they are judging.

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                          sheena
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                          Greetings,

                          HATRED IS A DISEASE ... DO NOT LET IT SPREAD.

                          JUST IGNORE THEM... AFTERALL IT IS THEIR ARROGANCE THAT LEAD THEM TO DISCRIMINATE US.

                          DOA THE BEST FOR THEM.

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                            Andya_Primanda
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                            Right Sheena, wise choice.

                            Saya juga salah satu SE Asian di sini, aslinya di Jakarta tapi sekarang sedang kuliah di Inggris. Saya punya adik di S'pore.

                            Nice to know so many likeminded people in our region! Mestinya kita bisa buat semacam jaringan. Jamaah Islamiyah saja bisa roll seharusnya kita juga.

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                              sheena
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                              SALAM ANDYA,

                              SUDAH TENTU KITA BISA BIKIN JARINGAN. (OF COS WE CAN HAVE A NETWORK) BUT WE MUST MAKE SURE THAT OUR INTENTIONS IS GOOD.
                              MAYB WE CAN PROVIDE A WEB OR HELPLINE FOR THOSE IN DISTRESS LIKE US MEANING THOSE SHUNNED & SHUT AWAY FROM OUR FRIENDS & RELATIVES.

                              THAT REALLY IS A GOOD IDEA... ANYBODY OUT THERE WOULD LIKE TO GIVE SUGGESTIONS.

                              WE CAN TRY TO GET THE MODERATORS TO HELP US COS WE REALLY DO NOT WANT TO STRAY FROM OUR BELIEFS.

                              PLEASE STAY IN TOUCH... DHANTI I AM WAITING FOR YOU TOO.

                              LETS US ALL WORK TOWARDS A COMMON GOAL (WITH GOOD INTENTIONS OF COS!)

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                                SRI_AMPANG
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                                Salam Sheena,

                                For God Alone website in malay langguage please visit www.e-bacaan.com

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                                  free
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                                  i dont trust all hadiths but at the same time i cant reject all hadiths in a hurry...i believed religious practises r being handed down from one generation to another...salat is mentioned in da Quran...but how we learn how to do salat is dat we learn it from fellow muslim....

                                  sheena im wondering if i have given up salat? the 5 times a day salat...

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                                    sheena
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                                    Insyallah I will go to e bacaan also.

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                                      loli
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                                      Salam Sheena,

                                      For God Alone website in malay langguage please visit www.e-bacaan.com

                                      salam sri ampang

                                      I think the e bacaan website is good..but i think it should have a forum just like Free minds to gather God-Alone people and let them interact. )

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                                        Ali_Imran
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                                        Salaam to Sheena, Adik Awang, Loli and all,

                                        It's heartening to read such a poignant posting from Sheena. Nothing good is gotten without a test from God, Sheena. I believe this is to test whether you are made of sterner, or lesser, stuff. There are many Quranic verses to support this.

                                        I have been a ' Muslim' (I think) for 6 years now and can be considered fairly active in espousing my views in the Klang valley. Throughout the time I came to know many 'readers' from all over the Peninsular and Singapore. Please email me privately if you need contacts near you.

                                        I have my own egroup [email protected]. It used to be very active at one time until after 'Arab Conspiracies' came out where some of us had such a fiery and ferocious debate and subsequently many signed off thereafter. The egroup is still around and a good place to touch base.

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                                          Ali_Imran
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                                          Salaam Andya Primanda,

                                          I'm going to Bandung in May '05. Do you know any 'Quranic Muslim' there?

                                          A.

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