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    Isis
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    SalamZ ~ Alen

    I really think tt it is not a matter of "verbal". I mean we do not have to go ard telling ppl, tt "hey, I no longer am practising what YOU are practising".
    Its a matter of belonging I guess tts making us feel alone ~

    I remember then when every Eid, we, the whole family will flock to the nearest field to perform the Eid prayers, it was so joyful......I really feel tt you are part of a society. Now, I no longer perfrom the Eid prayers (ritual) ..... the first year tt I did not perform the Eid prayers ..... I felt so "empty" ..... but I don't anymore cos I understand the meaning of "sholat" and Eid prayers simply a ritual.

    Alen, all you really need is Blessing from the Lord..... You are not alone in this and may the Lord shower you with all his Grace and Blessings ....

    Isis ~ out

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      Isis
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      SalamZ ~ splatter (tts a pretty interesting nick!)

      Over a cup of tea tarik be interesting ~

      Mayb u wanna gimme ur contacts so tt we can have our gathering and basically talk! laughs

      I really wish tt free-minds start a chatroom where we can log in and chat and talk abt our insecurities ~ Tt way we can be more spot on abt matters ..... Imagine all of us chatting and giving our views at the same time ~ wouldn't tt save alot of time ~ and nites when we cannot sleep we can just be with friends online!

      Not only tt, look on the positive side, we will be reaching out to a lot of ppl out there ! Of cos, there will be prowlers and trouble makers (isn't tt a norm. in chatrooms) .....

      Anyway, hope tt it will come true one day ..... or mayb there is an existing free-minds chatroom tt I am not aware of ..... slaps forehead

      I really think tt there are a million ways to reach out ..... its just a matter of how we do it !

      Last notes ~
      All we want is the truth , to serve the Lord , if what we are doing is wrong then please advise what is right ! (tts directed to those reading the posts!)

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        splatter
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        Peace,

        Isis, please check your private message inbox. I've sent you my contact. )

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          Alen
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          As salamu alaykum.
          Respectfully.

          Thanks Isis.
          I use to always go to the mosque to pray with others, especially on fridays. But then they started putting photos of Mecca, then i learned about their mentioning Muhammad's name in the prayer so i stopped going there.

          Now i pray in the house.
          As salamu alaykum. sun

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            Isis
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            SalamZ Alen,

            Just a thought ...... isn't "prayers" a ritual too?

            Mecca ~ the pilgramage an ancient ritual too?

            Just a thought to ponder and seek ~

            Isis ~ out

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              Alen
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              As salamu alaykum.
              Respectfully.

              Yeah, i was just saying that things have changed. Now they put photos of Mecca in mosques and praying houses, they changed azaan, they mention Muhammad's name in the prayer .... sad.

              As salamu alakyum.

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                Isis
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                SalamZ,

                With God's description, the gracious, the merciful

                "Do read to contradict and refute only base on the Quran alone,
                Do not believe and take it for granted,
                but to weigh and consider."

                According to this Ayah ~ we have witnessed the Lord even before we were BORN ~

                7172 Wa-ith akhatha rabbuka min banee adama min thuhoorihim thurriyyatahum waashhadahum AAala anfusihim alastu birabbikum qaloo bala shahidna an taqooloo yawma alqiyamati inna kunna AAan hatha ghafileena
                7172 And when thy Lord took from the Children of Adam, from their loins, their seed, and made them testify touching themselves, 'Am I not your Lord?' They said, 'Yes, we testify'-- lest you should say on the Day of Resurrection, 'As for us, we were heedless of this,'

                7173 Aw taqooloo innama ashraka abaona min qablu wakunna thurriyyatan min baAAdihim afatuhlikuna bima faAAala almubtiloona
                7173 Nor can you say, "It was our parents who practiced idolatry, and we simply followed in their footsteps. Will You punish us because of what others have innovated?"

                Let us reflect what Iblis promised the Lord ..... based on this Ayah ......

                716 Qala fabima aghwaytanee laaqAAudanna lahum sirataka almustaqeema

                716 Said he, 'Now, for Thy perverting me, I shall surely sit in ambush for them on Thy straight path;

                He will divert all human from God?s straight path?

                Moslems all over this world chants this very Ayah, every time they perform their 5 daily rituals physical ?solats?, but unfortunately they do not know what is ?straight path??based on the Koran alone.

                Isis ~ out

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                  Alen
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                  As salamu alaykum.
                  Respectfully.

                  Beautiful Isis, beautiful. I did read this before and i always wondered what it meant, wjat kinda meaning it had and then i found the article similar to what you just wrote. Now i know for sure, i'm convinced even more. jedi
                  Thank you, sister. sun

                  As salamu alaykum. bravo

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                    Isis
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                    Question What is the The Straight Path?

                    Here are the Laws which all Moslems must uphold and honor

                    "Say 'come let me recite to you what your Lord has forbid for you

                    That you should not set-up anything with Him.

                    And be kind to your parents;

                    and do not kill your unborn children for fear of poverty,

                    We provide for you and for them;

                    and do not come near evil,

                    what is openly of it, or secretly;

                    and do not kill the soul which GOD Has forbidden, except in justice. That is what He enjoined you that you may

                    comprehend'.

                    'And do not come near the money of the orphan, except for what is best, until he reached his maturity;

                    and give honestly full measure and weight equitably. We do not burden a soul except by what it can bear.

                    And if you speak then be just even if against a relative;

                    and with pledges made to GOD you shall observe.

                    This He Has enjoined you that you may remember'.

                    And this is *My path, a Straight One, so you shall follow it, and do not follow the other paths lest they divert you from His path. That is what He has enjoined you to that you may be righteous." (6151-153)

                    *Please note that this is the SAME Straight Path that was revealed not only to Abraham, but to Moses and his people (the exception being the Sabbath which was made as a punishment for some of the Children of Israel 16124).

                    Isis ~ out

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                      Alen
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                      As salamu alaykum.
                      Respectfully. jedi

                      You're right, Isis. bravo
                      Well said, excellent post. bravo

                      As salamu alaykum.

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                        Greetings "free",

                        i dont trust all hadiths but at the same time i cant reject all hadiths in a hurry...i believed religious practises r being handed down from one generation to another...salat is mentioned in da Quran...but how we learn how to do salat is dat we learn it from fellow muslim....

                        The problem is that you do not consider it enough of what has been mentioned about "salat" and that there is more to it. I guess that is the reason why you still ask "how we learn how to do salat". Ask God directly (and I am sure God is capable of answering your question), and if you are lucky, you may get your answer. I suggest that you abandon the idea of learning it from "fellow muslim".

                        Anwar Azim

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                          yfn123
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                          Greetings Joe.

                          Can they deny that bad or hard things happen to good and bad people alike ?
                          Joe

                          Yes they can, if they haven't read 7168.

                          Anwar Azim

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                            Haneen
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                            Salam!
                            I ma new here.I thank God who bring me from the darkness to the light.About my story
                            I become sunni moslem almost 2 years ago.Then I was reading Quran,everything was fine,I liked Islam so much.But then I got married just few months later,mu husband start introduse me hadiits.I couldnt accept many things.Last thing what I couldnt accept was music-ban.If I asked- why? he could nt give satisfied ansver.I this summer I finded free-minds.org.I m from estonia, but I am living in Ireland.So if there is somebody around I m glad to meet.
                            Peace,
                            Haneen

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                              zenje
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                              Peace be with you Haneen and welcome to the forum

                              welcome

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                                Alen
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                                I just registered today.
                                I have been raised a sunni & have now began reading the Quran & turning slowly into a Quranic only believer.
                                Unfortunately my family members & friends have labelled & shunned me.
                                They called me a kafeer.
                                I am just seeking solace from friends out there sharing the same fate.
                                At least I do not feel alone.
                                **** I have repeatedly tried getting in touch with Zakaria - the so called Spore coordinator but
                                I am not getting any reply from him.
                                Can somebody just talk to me?

                                Salam.

                                Welcome to the forum and may The God Almighty The Most Merciful bless you, protect you and reward you with Paradise.

                                You're not alone, there are lots of brothers and sisters here and all over the world who have gone through the same thing as you, even worse.

                                I live with my brother and mother in the same apartment and the two of us have to pray and fast and read The Quran in secrecy, so, trust me, just rely on The God Almighty and be patient.

                                Salam.

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                                  Salaam Haneen,

                                  Salam!
                                  I ma new here.I thank God who bring me from the darkness to the light.About my story
                                  I become sunni moslem almost 2 years ago.Then I was reading Quran,everything was fine,I liked Islam so much.But then I got married just few months later,mu husband start introduse me hadiits.I couldnt accept many things.Last thing what I couldnt accept was music-ban.If I asked- why? he could nt give satisfied ansver.I this summer I finded free-minds.org.I m from estonia, but I am living in Ireland.So if there is somebody around I m glad to meet.
                                  Peace,
                                  Haneen

                                  welcome

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                                    Salaam Haneen,

                                    Last thing what I couldnt accept was music-ban.If I asked- why? he could nt give satisfied ansver.

                                    Music ban is based on the following hadith

                                    Shahih Bukhari Volume 7, Book 69, Number 494v

                                    Narrated Abu 'Amir or Abu Malik Al-Ash'ari

                                    that he heard the Prophet saying, "From among my followers there will be some people who will consider illegal sexual intercourse, the wearing of silk, the drinking of alcoholic drinks and the use of musical instruments, as lawful. And there will be some people who will stay near the side of a mountain and in the evening their shepherd will come to them with their sheep and ask them for something, but they will say to him, 'Return to us tomorrow.' Allah will destroy them during the night and will let the mountain fall on them, and He will transform the rest of them into monkeys and pigs and they will remain so till the Day of Resurrection."

                                    And our reply should be ...

                                    1059 Say, "Did you note how GOD sends down to you all kinds of provisions, then you render some of them unlawful, and some lawful?" Say, "Did GOD give you permission to do this? Or, do you fabricate lies and attribute them to GOD?"

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