One of the best objective sites refuting Evolution
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Salam,
http//www.trueorigin.org
This is one oif the best sites, besides harunyahya.com, totally refuting all the nonsense by Richard Dawkins, close n open system fraud made by evolutionists, etc. it provides detailed examples n quotes extensively from evolutionists as well as EX-evolutionists. I just went through one article refuting Richard Dawkins
http//www.trueorigin.org/dawkinfo.asp
Go n check this out n u might never believe in evolution again. GOD Bless! -
Hello IDMkhizar,
I think you have no understanding of Evolution just like Harun Yahya. You rely on websites that refute evolution but you never go to the source material and read it for yourself. Why are you afraid of reading original work and rely on biased refutations of people who have no understanding of the subject matter?
Regards,
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Hello IDMkhizar,
I think you have no understanding of Evolution just like Harun Yahya. You rely on websites that refute evolution but you never go to the source material and read it for yourself. Why are you afraid of reading original work and rely on biased refutations of people who have no understanding of the subject matter?
Regards,
Khi- I know the claims of evolutionists. I read their claims daily. Here in German scientific magazines u fiund nothing but this biased garbage abt evolution n the absurdities make me sick. The site i mentioned is by no means biased. Evolutionists r biased otherwise y do they become red headed n mad when Creationists or memebers of ID prove them wrong. Some were even shut down from the media. The evolutinists know tht it wld expose them ths y. Plz go n check it out. The reply 2 all ur answers is there even 2 Richrad Dawkins whom u revere so much is nothing but a fraud who although aware of many complexities evolved in living cells tends 2 hide these away n present biased material. Go through this link i send u n then come back n we can discuss
www.trueorigin.org/dawkinfo.asp
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Hello IMDkhizar,
I have no reverence for no man or woman. I never rely on any one man or women either but you do. Harun Yahya seems to have muddled your reason. I rely on my own God-given reason and do not base my understanding on refutations published on websites. I prefer to read the source material and decide for myself the validity of the arguments.
If you have read my last post then you will know that I have read both Micheal Behe's Book "Darwin Black Box" on his thesis of "irreducibly Complexity" and Richard Dawkins "Blind Watch Maker". As an objective indivdual I can see that both have good arguments. Behe's theisis has become a Creationists club to beat the Evolutionists. Even Harun Yahya uses Behe's arguments in a simpler form. But If you had read Behe's book then you would have realised how much Behe acknowledges the Darwinian Principles of Evolution. His contention is that Molecular Evolution is not accounted by Darwininism and any sensible person with an objective mind can see that Behe has a good arguments in this.
I urge you to read the source material instead of giving links to websites that does the refutations. If you can't be bothered to read the original works then please refrain from posting this nonsense that Harun Yahya espouses... Be an individual and rely not on any one man. Do your own work and then you might understand a little of the nature of Evolution...
And no one is getting mad here in this debate. It may be perhaps your paranoia. I can only see that you have lost your objectivity in this debate by admitting your own prejuidice against Evolution. Put the prejudice aside and go back to the original source material. Give up this addiction to websites that does silly refutings and read a book or two... and do not be afraid, Evolution does not deny Existence of God. If you are objective then you can see God's work behind Evolution...
Regards,
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LoteTree wrote
Hello IMDkhizar,I have no reverence for no man or woman. I never rely on any one man or women either but you do. Harun Yahya seems to have muddled your reason. I rely on my own God-given reason and do not base my understanding on refutations published on websites. I prefer to read the source material and decide for myself the validity of the arguments.
Khi- I also do tht. Im not interested in HY personally either since hes a sunni n im a Quran Aloner alhamdulillah. I just like u refer 2 the material which they present n i can see a lot of truth in there which i cant see in evolutionists arguments. Also u were the one who showed me the website of Dawkins n so i showed u some refuting him. I also gave me my very own reason which astoundingly when matched those given on the sites i presented n thts be4 i visited them. The reason was the save function adopted in the program n tht the goal is already defined. This then shows tht intelligence was behind tht prog so it is nothing by chance. The whole thing is therfore a deceit.
If you have read my last post then you will know that I have read both Micheal Behe's Book "Darwin Black Box" on his thesis of "irreducibly Complexity" and Richard Dawkins "Blind Watch Maker". As an objective indivdual I can see that both have good arguments. Behe's theisis has become a Creationists club to beat the Evolutionists. Even Harun Yahya uses Behe's arguments in a simpler form. But If you had read Behe's book then you would have realised how much Behe acknowledges the Darwinian Principles of Evolution. His contention is that Molecular Evolution is not accounted by Darwininism and any sensible person with an objective mind can see that Behe has a good arguments in this.
Khi- So u at least admit tht both have good arguments. 2ndly if HY takes some statements fro Behe n others ic no prob there 4 he analysed it n believes it 2 be the truth. This ofcourse again doesnt mean all of Behes statements need 2 be correct. I even showed u a quote from an EXevolutionist who is a biologist, Dr Gary Parker. If Behe acknoledges Darwinian Principles of evolution tht complex forms evolved fro simpler ones by chance then i diagree with him. If u r talking bt natural selection principle of Darwin then tht actually refutes Darwinism since NS has been shown 2 be destructive n never constructive i.e. it deletes info from the genes n does not add any info. No evolutionists has ever shown on the basis of random mutations n natural selection shwoiwing an increase in the gene quote. This is one of the qs tht puzzles them most.
I urge you to read the source material instead of giving links to websites that does the refutations. If you can't be bothered to read the original works then please refrain from posting this nonsense that Harun Yahya espouses... Be an individual and rely not on any one man. Do your own work and then you might understand a little of the nature of Evolution...
Regards,
Khi- Forget abt HY. I showed u many other articles. The best one which i went through 2day is
www.trueorigin.org/dawkinfo.asp
It seems u didnt read tht.And no one is getting mad here in this debate. It may be perhaps your paranoia. I can only see that you have lost your objectivity in this debate by admitting your own prejuidice against Evolution. Put the prejudice aside and go back to the original source material. Give up this addiction to websites that does silly refutings and read a book or two... and do not be afraid, Evolution does not deny Existence of God. If you are objective then you can see God's work behind Evolution...
Regards,
Khi- Silly refutings ehh? I read the whole article at www.trueorigin.org/dawkinfo.asp by myself n i agree with those pts. They r very reasonable n logical unlike DAwkins n other evolutionary ape human monkey garbage. They even shoot movies where imaginary half ape half manlike creatures lived millions of years ago n how they imaginably then evolved into humans. All fairy tales n pure imagination. Evolutionists can be good story tellers but they can never be good scientists. Ive seen many such movies on TV here in Germany. It's a pity how young ppl gett fooled by this crap. GOD Bless!
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Hello idmkhizar,
With due respects, you don't seem to understand. Stop reading refutations on websites and read the books and the decide for yourself. Stop giving links to websites that does the refutations. I have not given you single web link to refute your creationism. Read Behe, Read Darwin, Read Dawkins, read all that you can and then make your own mind up. Don't be afraid of reading them. They are infallible human beings just like you and me... Trust your God given reason and not rely on one man...
Regards,
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Hello idmkhizar,
With due respects, you don't seem to understand. Stop reading refutations on websites and read the books and the decide for yourself. Stop giving links to websites that does the refutations. I have not given you single web link to refute your creationism. Read Behe, Read Darwin, Read Dawkins, read all that you can and then make your own mind up. Don't be afraid of reading them. They are infallible human beings just like you and me... Trust your God given reason and not rely on one man...
Regards,
Khi- I believe u mean fallible not infallible. Human beings r NOT infallible. As i said i dont wanna waste my time going through each n every book. I need only read part of evolutionists claim n i immediately sense tht it is rubbish while i again only need 2 read part of creationists(not their biblical arguments) pts n i immediately sense by myself tht they r logical, reasonable n clear without deceit regarding this issue. GOD Bless!
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Hello idmkhizar,
I meant to say human beings are fallible.
You only read part of the Evolutionist Claim? Little knowledge idmkhizar is a dangerous thing. If you are not bothered to read them then how can you be objective? thats why perhaps you are easily duped by people like Haroun Yahya...
Regards,
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Hello idmkhizar,
I meant to say human beings are fallible.
You only read part of the Evolutionist Claim? Little knowledge idmkhizar is a dangerous thing. If you are not bothered to read them then how can you be objective? thats why perhaps you are easily duped by people like Haroun Yahya...
Regards,
Khi- Again HArun, hArun, forget abt him. The majproty of objective scientists r against evolution n believe in GOD. Evolutionists mostly dont believe in GOD. Those who do onyl confuse themselves trying 2 concilliate evolution with belief in GOD which is incompatible. Such scientists r laughed at by stauch evolutionists who r atheists. GOD Bless!