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Dr. Kent Hovind's 250,000$ offer 4 anyone 2 prove evolution

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    jonny_k
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    Salam,
    http//www.drdino.com/Ministry/250k/index.jsp

    I have a standing offer of $250,000 to anyone who can give any empirical evidence (scientific proof) for evolution.* My $250,000 offer demonstrates that the hypothesis of evolution is nothing more than a religious belief.

    GOD Bless!

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      unknownuser
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      It is upto him to disprove it.

      Regards,

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        Here is a suggestion. Why don't Dr. Kent spend that money on proper scientific research to disprove evolution?

        Science never challenges anyone to "prove" anything because science can never claim absolute truth. it is only people like Dr. Kent and Ali Sinnah resort to this type of challenge because they are lazy to do the work themselves.

        Regards,

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          Khizar is now following KENT HOVIND?

          I thought that guy was a fraud... even his fellow creationists are ashamed if him!

          See this
          http//www.kent-hovind.com/

          Khizar, I'm disappointed. That's a new low. Your faith in Harun Yahya's words might be tolerable, but faith in Kent Hovind?

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            Khizar is now following KENT HOVIND?

            I thought that guy was a fraud... even his fellow creationists are ashamed if him!

            See this
            http//www.kent-hovind.com/

            Khizar, I'm disappointed. That's a new low. Your faith in Harun Yahya's words might be tolerable, but faith in Kent Hovind?

            Khi- As i have made clear. I do NOT support all of Kent's views but standby his views on Creation. Plz be4 u make any absurd comments n slanders plz go n see the debate Dr. Kent had with three lousy evolutionists who were unable 2 give a single reasonable scientific pt at
            http//www.drdino.com/Downloads/Debate/vids/index.jsp
            Tape #4
            Don't make any firther comments until uve seen tht clip. GOD Bless!

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              That person is ridiculous. To him, you can't even prove the universe exists so there is no point in arguing. Rather lets have him disprove evolution.

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                That person is ridiculous. To him, you can't even prove the universe exists so there is no point in arguing. Rather lets have him disprove evolution.

                Khi- Salam. Dont just slander him. Do it then. Go n debate him in public n lets see. The truthful shld win. Also i wld like u 2 add me so we can have a talk. GOD Bless!

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                  Khizar, here's how your hero Kent Hovind fare in public...

                  'Kent Hovind Lies for his Gods'
                  http//www.skeptictank.org/hovind.htm

                  'Kent Hovind has been challenged to a REAL debate - a scientific debate - in the pages of this newsletter, and on the World Wide Web. Hovind has refused this debate. Details of this exchange follow.'
                  http//www.nmsr.org/hovind.htm

                  'The debate that wasn't Kent Hovind is the one who refuses to debate'
                  http//www.stephenjaygould.org/ctrl/archive/till_hovind.html

                  'As far as Hovind's evolution challenge goes, I made a couple of simple passes at him to gauge his response. I was convinced he would never pay, so rather than get heavily into research to no result, I borrowed a couple of instances of speciation from the Talk.Origins Archive, told Hovind where they were from, and demanded the (then) $10,000 he offered. Hovind laughed off the proofs without making any attempt to respond to them in any sensible manner whatsoever.'
                  http//home.austarnet.com.au/stear/kent_hovind's_lies.htm

                  'Kent Hovind's $250,000 Offer'
                  http//www.talkorigins.org/faqs/hovind.html

                  Then again, it's just a collection of links. Feel free to ignore it and continue listening to the evangelist 'Dr' Kent Hovind.

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                    Then again, it's just a collection of links. Feel free to ignore it and continue listening to the evangelist 'Dr' Kent Hovind.

                    Khi- I wld have appreciated it if u wld have given me links 2 video clips where i cld see the debates where Dr. Kent failed 2 give good arguments n/or lost the debate. U dint provide one. U just provided the usual skeptics slandering. I presented 2 u he visual debates which took place with Dr. Kent n WORLD FAMOUS EVOLUTIONISTS like Dr. Mathew Rainbow, Michael Schirmer, etc. This shows he debated them n he did it very well. GOD Bless!

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                      Khi- I wld have appreciated it if u wld have given me links 2 video clips where i cld see the debates where Dr. Kent failed 2 give good arguments n/or lost the debate. U dint provide one. U just provided the usual skeptics slandering. I presented 2 u he visual debates which took place with Dr. Kent n WORLD FAMOUS EVOLUTIONISTS like Dr. Mathew Rainbow, Michael Schirmer, etc. This shows he debated them n he did it very well. GOD Bless!

                      Videos? If you care to read the links, it shows how Kent Hovind avoids structured debates. For someone who claims the world is just an illusion, you seem to be only interested in superficial appearances. Scientists don't do scientific debates in ten-minute videotaped sessions like political candidates. Scientific debates take place in books, journals, articles where each side have ample opportunity to study the evidence and dissect the arguments.

                      But, as I told you, if you are satisfied with Dr. Dino & co., go ahead. He can supply you with all the miracles you need for your faith. I prefer the hard way.

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                        Videos? If you care to read the links, it shows how Kent Hovind avoids structured debates. For someone who claims the world is just an illusion, you seem to be only interested in superficial appearances. Scientists don't do scientific debates in ten-minute videotaped sessions like political candidates. Scientific debates take place in books, journals, articles where each side have ample opportunity to study the evidence and dissect the arguments.

                        Khi- The video clips with Dr. Kent r not ten minutes but two hrs full n complete debates as u wld have noticed if u saw them. Each side is given the opportunity 2 make his pt clear. Books, journals n articles often promote lies. They ca never be compared 2 live debates where the truth comes out clearly infront of the audience. Text books on "science" still contain archeopterix as dino-bird, which even Dr. Mathew Rainbow agrees shld be taken out of them as well as the faulty human embryos have gill slits argument which he also admits is false. These books also mention tht the tail bone n appendix r vestegial strcutures while they r not. We can live without app just as we can without our eyes n ears but tht doesnt make it verstigial. The app is part of the immune system without which the rest pf our body needs 2 work harder. If u think u dont need ur tail bone coz its verstigial Dr Kent WILL PAY TO HAVE URS REMOVED! Bend over! lollollol

                        But, as I told you, if you are satisfied with Dr. Dino & co., go ahead. He can supply you with all the miracles you need for your faith. I prefer the hard way.

                        Khi- lollollol He doesnt supply me with miracles. Who told u tht? I told u many times be4 tht i dont endorse all of his claims. GOD Bless!

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                          Books, journals n articles often promote lies. They ca never be compared 2 live debates where the truth comes out clearly infront of the audience.

                          Science is about how accurately we can explain the workings of the world, not instant popularity. But I guess you are not familiar with how scientists work. As I have shown you in the links, many people challenged 'Dr. Dino' to debates, yet he avoids them. Hovind asked for examples of evolution, yet when Budikka/Ian Wood gave him some examples, he never bothered to check it out and just dismissed them. He's so sure he's right, he won't even bother to study the evidence! Why are you following his example?

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                            Science is about how accurately we can explain the workings of the world, not instant popularity. But I guess you are not familiar with how scientists work. As I have shown you in the links, many people challenged 'Dr. Dino' to debates, yet he avoids them. Hovind asked for examples of evolution, yet when Budikka/Ian Wood gave him some examples, he never bothered to check it out and just dismissed them. He's so sure he's right, he won't even bother to study the evidence! Why are you following his example?

                            Khi- Lemme ask u a simple qs. If a certain grp of ppl consitently present lies deliberately for 150 years wld u still trust them? The answer is obviously no. So even if wht they present now maybe right who wld care since they lied so many times n even the text books still include those lies of vestigial organs n gill slits in human embryos. Is tht how science works? Keep the lies although theyve been disproved? Definitely NOT! GOD Bless!

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                              Khi- Lemme ask u a simple qs. If a certain grp of ppl consitently present lies deliberately for 150 years wld u still trust them? The answer is obviously no. So even if wht they present now maybe right who wld care since they lied so many times n even the text books still include those lies of vestigial organs n gill slits in human embryos. Is tht how science works? Keep the lies although theyve been disproved? Definitely NOT! GOD Bless!

                              If a group consistently present lies for 150 years, I won't trust them. However, you are neither familiar with the facts in biology nor with how science works. I assume you'll think I insult you with that statement. Science grounds itself in facts. If Haeckel, for instance, produces some fake embryo drawings, we can check if he's faking it or not. How? By examining actual embryos, for instance. Like what Miller & Levine did.

                              http//www.millerandlevine.com/km/evol/embryos/Haeckel.html

                              Are you suspecting Miller and Levine? How can you tell if they're lying or not? Simple. Repeat their work. Get some fish, chicken, pig and human embryos and examine them yourself. Science works by correcting itself--and scientists don't cover up for each other like conspirators, instead they try to point each other's mistakes. Then again, given your taste for miracles, I seriously doubt you have any desire to seriously examine the facts. Just like your hero the evangelist YEC Dr. Dino.

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                                Salam,
                                http//www.drdino.com/Ministry/250k/index.jsp

                                I have a standing offer of $250,000 to anyone who can give any empirical evidence (scientific proof) for evolution.* My $250,000 offer demonstrates that the hypothesis of evolution is nothing more than a religious belief.

                                GOD Bless!

                                He's an idiot.

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                                  If a group consistently present lies for 150 years, I won't trust them. However, you are neither familiar with the facts in biology nor with how science works. I assume you'll think I insult you with that statement. Science grounds itself in facts. If Haeckel, for instance, produces some fake embryo drawings, we can check if he's faking it or not. How? By examining actual embryos, for instance. Like what Miller & Levine did.

                                  http//www.millerandlevine.com/km/evol/embryos/Haeckel.html

                                  Are you suspecting Miller and Levine? How can you tell if they're lying or not? Simple. Repeat their work. Get some fish, chicken, pig and human embryos and examine them yourself. Science works by correcting itself--and scientists don't cover up for each other like conspirators, instead they try to point each other's mistakes. Then again, given your taste for miracles, I seriously doubt you have any desire to seriously examine the facts. Just like your hero the evangelist YEC Dr. Dino.

                                  Khi- I know all this bro but the pt is tht the drawings of Haeckel R STILL PRESENT IN MODERN SCIENCE SCHOOL TEXT BOOKS AS FACTS. If science corrects itself then the false data proven false more than 50 years ago shld not be there in trhe text books 2day presented as fact. Get it now? GOD Bless!

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                                    Khi- I know all this bro but the pt is tht the drawings of Haeckel R STILL PRESENT IN MODERN SCIENCE SCHOOL TEXT BOOKS AS FACTS. If science corrects itself then the false data proven false more than 50 years ago shld not be there in trhe text books 2day presented as fact. Get it now? GOD Bless!

                                    Miller & Levine writes textbooks used in some US schools today.

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                                      Khi- I know all this bro but the pt is tht the drawings of Haeckel R STILL PRESENT IN MODERN SCIENCE SCHOOL TEXT BOOKS AS FACTS. If science corrects itself then the false data proven false more than 50 years ago shld not be there in trhe text books 2day presented as fact. Get it now? GOD Bless!

                                      Miller & Levine writes textbooks used in some US schools today.

                                      Khi- Y? Y r these false drawings of Haeckel still presented 2 innocent school kids? Theres one answer. The evolutionists r desparate in supporting their theory. GOD Bless!

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                                        Khi- Y? Y r these false drawings of Haeckel still presented 2 innocent school kids? Theres one answer. The evolutionists r desparate in supporting their theory. GOD Bless!

                                        Dense, aren't you? Miller & Levine replaced Haeckel's drawings with actual photos of embryos. They are no longer using Haeckel's drawings.

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                                          Khi- Y? Y r these false drawings of Haeckel still presented 2 innocent school kids? Theres one answer. The evolutionists r desparate in supporting their theory. GOD Bless!

                                          Dense, aren't you? Miller & Levine replaced Haeckel's drawings with actual photos of embryos. They are no longer using Haeckel's drawings.

                                          Khi- There r still biology books which use Haecka's drawings. Obviously not all of them. GOD Bless!

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