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Lote Tree said
Scripture came through a human being so how can you be sure that scripture is God's words and not humans? There is no way of getting around this Tanveer. And that is my argument. You either have faith in it or you don't, or in my view, we can use our God-given reason, intuition and imagination to develop an understanding that goes beyond scripture.

I have used my God given reason, intuition and imagination in a positive manner and I have come to the conclusion that Al-Quran is beyond doubt the Word of The God. I dont just have faith but I KNOW with 100 % certainty.

4916 Believers are those who believe in God and His messenger, then they became without doubt, and they strive with their money and their lives in the cause of God. These are the truthful ones.

By the way, The God told me to tell you this

10105 Say "O mankind, if you are in doubt of my system, then I do not serve those that you serve besides God. But I serve God who takes me, and I have been commanded to be of the believers."

You are wasting your time, your attempts to put doubt in my mind will certainly fail )

Do you know how religious experience comes about?

It comes from meditation, contemplation and reflection.

You are not telling me anything new. I meditate, contemplate and reflect how The God told me to (through His Word) and I have my religious experiences when I serve The God the way He told me to. The God has already told me the perfect way to meditate in Al-Quran through Aqeemoo Al-Salat. (You should check it out too !)

If Great Seers, Sages, Prophets, Meditators and Mystics say the same thing about the reality of God, which is also in the Quran - what does that tell you about the human experience of the Divine tanveer?

If your idols say the same things as Al-Quran then how come you dont follow it? Seems like hypocrisy to me !!

You want proof, you want
evidence? Why don't you go and find out yourself? Read and try to uderstand what all these people are saying about the reality we call "God"

I already have my proofs and evidences. You still have not come up with ONE concrete proof and evidence to support your understanding. Your general utterings about your idols is not proof. If your idols say things about The God based on conjecture that is not proof ! Bring me ONE concrete proof or evidence to support your claims.

Question everything Tanveer, try to think outside of the scripture, use your God-given reason and not make scripture your REASON. Read as much as you can read, learn as much as you can learn. Find your own insights and proofs.

I have already read a lot and learned a lot. The God is the Ultimate and His Word is the Final Word. How can one think outside of the Word of The God? How can one develop an understanding that is beyond the Word of The God? I have already found my insights and proofs and I dont need your advice or your idols' advices. I use my reason, intuition and imagination to think and ponder on the Word of The God in order to understand it so that I can serve Him in the best way.

And once you have developed some understanding of God then use of this GUIDE is no longer required...try not to make idol out of any scripture...

The more understanding of The God I develop the more I find the GUIDE indispensible !

I do not make an idol out of The God's Word. I serve The God and in order to find out how to best serve Him I use His words to guide me. His Word has every detail that I need when I use my reason to ponder on it

1025 It is such that We clarify the revelations to a people who think.
3028 It is such that We clarify the revelations for a people who have sense.

As brother Saladin has very nicely said, the laws of The God for mankind are not beyond language and reason. The God Himself chose to give us those laws through clear words. Those words describe the laws perfectly and very clearly.

Finally The God told me to tell you a few more things (that is the only reason I am responding to you)

551 And We have sent down to you the Scripture with truth, authenticating what is present of the Scripture and superseding it. So judge between them by what God has sent down, and do not follow their desires from what has come to you of the truth. For each of you We have made laws, and a structure; and had God willed, He would have made you all one nation, but He tests you with what He has given you; so strive to do good. To God you will return all of you, and He will inform you regarding that in which you dispute.

1339 And as such, We have sent it down a law in Arabic. And if you follow their desires after what has come to you of the knowledge, then you will not have any ally or defender against God.

16117 And do not say regarding what your tongues describe with lies "This is lawful and that is forbidden;" that you seek to invent lies about God. Those who invent lies about God will not succeed.

2229 Thus, and whosoever honours God's restrictions, then it is better for him with His Lord.......So avoid the foulness of idols and avoid saying false statements.

You still have a chance. Read the Word of The God and follow it. However if you turn away from the Reminder I will have to disregard you for good. cry

5329 While they had no knowledge about this; they only followed conjecture. And conjecture is no substitute for the truth. So disregard he who turns away from Our reminder, and only desires this worldly life.

Tanveer

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Lote Tree wrote
Scripture came through a human being so how can you be sure that scripture is God's words and not humans? There is no way of getting around this Tanveer. And that is my argument. You either have faith in it or you don't, or in my view, we can use our God-given reason, intuition and imagination to develop an understanding that goes beyond scripture.

I have used my God given reason, intuition and imagination in a positive manner and I have come to the conclusion that Al-Quran is beyond doubt the Word of The God. I dont just have faith but I KNOW with 100% certainty.