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Introduction to HJJ

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    Elke
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    Salaam Jaxal,

    the follwing link could bring an answer to your question

    And why does God need humans to come to the world?

    http//www.sufism.ru/eng/txts/a_tao_of_islam.htm

    Also quite interesting article because of the parallels drawn between islamic and chinese philosophy.

    Peace all,

    Elke

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      Wakas
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      peace All,

      All of the occurrences of the root HJJ, taken from PRL

      2158

      2189, 2196, 2196, 2196, 2197, 2197, 2197, 397, 93, 2227

      919

      2827

      2150, 4165, 683, 6149, 4215, 4216, 4525

      2258, 320, 361, 366, 680

      276, 2139, 365, 366, 373, 680, 4216

      4047

      Wakas

      All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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        SwedenMajidah
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        salaam Br Kyle and Br Wakas,

        You two guys are so great

        You just opened my eyes of this difficult word hajj, I have never really understood it.

        But this sounds so clear that it must be an debate, conferance between truebelievers.

        I mean people comes from different locations and gather and discuss, it doesn't have to be more complicated than this.

        God will show us a good but not difficult way.

        And all those rituals then must be either manmade or misunderstood right!?

        Peace
        Sis Majidah

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          Elke
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          So aren't we actually accomplishing a kind of hajj - i mean right here at free-minds ? turban

          Peace, lk

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            SwedenMajidah
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            Salaam Sister Elke,

            Well a sort of.

            But it would be good to meet people and shake hands and/or kiss eachother on the cheeks etc.

            Peace
            Sis Majidah

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              unknownuser
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              Peace be upon you,

              Thanks Majidah D

              Yes, Elke, we are instituting "hajj" right here. Hopefully we can follow the verse that says no arguing(jidala) in the debate(hajj).

              But I do think there is a GREAT DEBATE that we must still figure out.

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                Jaxal
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                SaLaM Elke

                I WILL read it. But why are you expecting sufism to have the right answer? Why not sunnis?

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                  Elke
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                  Salam Jax,

                  you asked
                  But why are you expecting sufism to have the right answer? Why not sunnis?

                  I don't expect anybody to have the right answer. I'm looking for insight in many places and then form my own opinion. My basis is the quran though.

                  Have a good day!
                  LK

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                    Jaxal
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                    SaLaM Elke

                    Plz dont think that i was doubting it. I myself will take the evidence without caring if its from Sunnis or shias or suffis or whatever sect it is. I myself belief in the Torah , Bible and Quran. http//www.geocities.com/bigjaxal/s1.gif

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                      Elke
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                      Hi bro jax!

                      I wonder when you say you'll take the "evidence". Must admit i often have difficulty finding the right interpretation of some verses. What is brought forward as evidence by some is most times biaised by the interpretation that one wants to consecrate.

                      So what i finally trust is the understanding that my heart can accept, above my reason but not against it. But true, i always ask Allah for forgiveness (for eventual misunderstandings) and guidance.

                      Peace, lk

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                        Jaxal
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                        SaLaM Elke

                        In the end, God knows what is in our hearts. WE can search for the truth for years and when we finally come to believe it. It can be either true or false. But God knows we tried our best.

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