Mysteries of the past, UFO's, Aliens ??
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DQ was banned, however that does not stop him from returning under a different name. Maybe he's back, in fact, maybe he's right in front of your very nose.
Under my nose is some stubble at the moment, later to be replaced by white chocolate residue. As for in front of my nose, it is currently the monitor, but this shall change during the course of the day as I mobilize.
Its great to know that Priesty has nothing to do with DQ's shenanigans. Peace Priesthood!
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Peace Priest Bokmei, all,
Thank you for the signs. 4229 and 6512 seem convincing.
Mankind seems to make technological advancements in a burst in a short period of time after being dormant for centuries. It is possible that in the hundreds of thousands of years of existence, mankind has made amazing technological advancements periodically in a short period of time after a dormant period of centuries, followed by total annihilation, and that could explain a lot of mysteries from the past.
The Jinn have been around for a longer period of time than the humans, and maybe they also made some technological advancements in the past, and that could be an alternative explanation.
Another explanation could be that a race of humans became very technologically advanced in the past and were capable of interstellar travel and colonized other parts of the universe and they periodically revisit the Earth in UFO's. Alternatively, an advanced race of humans could be hiding on Earth somewhere, maybe in the Himalayas, or underwater, and they periodically come out and visit their fellow earthlings !
Another possibility could be time travellers visiting the past and the present from the future, however that seems less likely because then they would be able to cause changes in the past, altering the history and completely changing the present or the future, thereby creating a paradox. String theory seems to allow time travel, by predicting the existence of tachyons, which are supposed to be able to travel faster than speed of light, thereby reversing time.
All these are however conjectures and assumptions. Hopefully all these mysteries will be solved on The Last Day, when we will be able to ask The Creator Himself !!
We should be patient and everything will soon be clear, God willing.
2138 Mankind has been created from haste. I will show you My signs, so do not be in a rush.
2796 Say "Praise be to God, He will show you His signs and you will know them. And your Lord is not unaware of what you do."
4153 We will show them Our signs in the horizons, and within themselves, until it becomes clear to them that this is the truth. Is it not enough that your Lord is witness over all things? -
Mankind seems to make technological advancements in a burst in a short period of time after being dormant for centuries. It is possible that in the hundreds of thousands of years of existence, mankind has made amazing technological advancements periodically in a short period of time after a dormant period of centuries, followed by total annihilation, and that could explain a lot of mysteries from the past.
Which mysteries are they chap?
The Jinn have been around for a longer period of time than the humans, and maybe they also made some technological advancements in the past, and that could be an alternative explanation.
What would Jinn do with technology when they are not corporeal?
Another explanation could be that a race of humans became very technologically advanced in the past and were capable of interstellar travel and colonized other parts of the universe and they periodically revisit the Earth in UFO's.
For what purpose, to visit their grandmas?
Alternatively, an advanced race of humans could be hiding on Earth somewhere, maybe in the Himalayas, or underwater, and they periodically come out and visit their fellow earthlings !
Why are they hiding?
May be they suffer from severe skin rash and they are too shy to come out?
Another possibility could be time travellers visiting the past and the present from the future, however that seems less likely because then they would be able to cause changes in the past, altering the history and completely changing the present or the future, thereby creating a paradox. String theory seems to allow time travel, by predicting the existence of tachyons, which are supposed to be able to travel faster than speed of light, thereby reversing time.
But if you live in a multiverse, paradox does not happen, yeah? Perhaps speed of light is not sacrosant, yeah?
All these are however conjectures and assumptions. Hopefully all these mysteries will be solved on The Last Day, when we will be able to ask The Creator Himself !!
Perhaps the creator wants to solve these things by yourself?
And when you do then you will know what God is, yeah?We should be patient and everything will soon be clear, God willing.
Not just be patient but work towards understanding the Universe.
2138 Mankind has been created from haste. I will show you My signs, so do not be in a rush.
But why in haste? I thought God was beyond temporal mechanics?
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My take on it is that we need to go back and study the ancient sumerian tablets written in cuneiform and start to ask ourself what the elohim of the torah really is.
The sons (plural) of the gods (plural) that from heaven to earth came.I have no doubt in my mind that Genesis of the Bible is a 11 copy of certain cuneiform writings from ancient sumer. Only, the cuneiform talks in images about astrology, and the worship of the heavens (not heaven as in paradise, but litterally the heavens, the planets, they skyline etc), and about a race of gods who came here, changed our DNA structure (the seed of life) to make us a working animal, but realised that our weman looked pretty good. So they MARRIED the daughters of adama, the first individual they genetically enginered. This is not from the bible, but it sure resembles.
We need to figure out what the olmecs really are and where they came from, and how they knew all the stuff they did on astrology, later adopted by the mayan and inca culture. I, along with other suggest that they came from africa to mexico. Most scientists wants to refute this, and make the civilisation younger than it is, because acknowleding its real age, simply brings about to many unpleasant questions regarding our whole view on the world and history. regarding timelines that is.
But perhaps they can answer this then. Apart from their sculptures obviously looking like africans, with big lips, round faces, all the facial structures of a black man. Why did they give elephants to their children as toys? There where NEVER elephants in the Americas, and if we play with the idea that there where....boy are the olmecs old, much older than the 5-6000years i respectfully would suggest. However, there are elephants in africa, and as they do look like black people, perhaps there are a connection here. Now the question just still stands....we know they knew how to navigate via stars and maths, but who told them what the stellar constalations look like, that cannot be seen by the naked eye?. Some of the constallations they have depicted can only be seen through very powerfull telescopes. But perhaps they had those? i belive not. But i do belive that someone, that knew about the heavens....told them, and told them that they would be back. This is why the incas surrendered like they supposedly did. They where astrologers and worshipped the heavens through different depictions of dietys representing planets. According to them, the "gods" of the olmec, would return to earth after 52 calender cycles. Thus their main deity had the sacret number 52, and was the God of system, and calenders. Thoth of egypt had this number as sacred aswell and was banned from egypt around 3100 bc. he was btw the god of systems and calenders. So 5000 years ago, thoth is expeled from egypt, and at the very same time...the olmecs appear, with the same astrology, the same basic principals for their dietys....i think thats interresting.
What im saying is, in the light of recently discovered sources (within the last 200 years), we can start to understand where much of our theology came from. What we are left with however is; how did the sons of god, the gods that came in these ancient scriptures, turn out as one God?
Perhaps the very first Biblical commandment give us a clue to what really happened to theology, and the way we perciece it. Because the old scriptures given...The God, has been inserted (and later Jesus) into the bible everywhere where old deitys appear. YhVh, elohim, nephilim, etc..
I belive the most correct translation of the commandment is
You shall not have other gods BEFORE me... (but i do not give a shit whom you worhip after you have done your duty to me, YOUR God (YHVH) ,Moses)
There are many things we need to look over once more, because there is a lot of stuff that simly doesnt add up in history and theology as its being told. And rather than confronting the unpleasant issues. People just refer t5o them as mysteries. And mysteries are good, because a mystiery is a mystery and thusnot something to seriously considder..
well you know what? math was a mystery too, writing was a mystery. it aint any more, because someone took up the challenge from the schoolars. This website is a blazing example of that very mentality, wich is good.
Peace
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The following account of the ancient Indians and Atlantians, and their technological advancements thousands of years ago, and the battle between them is interesting
Ancient Indian Aircraft Technology
by D. Hatcher ChildressMany researchers into the UFO enigma tend to overlook a very important fact. While it assumed that most flying saucers are of alien, or perhaps Governmental Military origin, another possible origin of UFOs is ancient India and Atlantis.
What we know about ancient Indian flying vehicles comes from ancient Indian sources; written texts that have come down to us through the centuries. There is no doubt that most of these texts are authentic; many are the well known ancient Indian Epics themselves, and there are literally hundreds of them. Most of them have not even been translated into English yet from the old sanskrit.
The Indian Emperor Ashoka started a "Secret Society of the Nine Unknown Men" great Indian scientists who were supposed to catalogue the many sciences. Ashoka kept their work secret because he was afraid that the advanced science catalogued by these men, culled from ancient Indian sources, would be used for the evil purpose of war, which Ashoka was strongly against, having been converted to Buddhism after defeating a rival army in a bloody battle.
The "Nine Unknown Men" wrote a total of nine books, presumably one each. Book number was "The Secrets of Gravitation!" This book, known to historians, but not actually seen by them dealt chiefly with "gravity control." It is presumably still around somewhere, kept in a secret library in India, Tibet or elsewhere (perhaps even in North America somewhere). One can certainly undertand Ashoka's reasoning for wanting to keep such knowledge a secret, assuming it exists. if the Nazis had such weapons at their disposal during World War Ii. Ashoka was also aware devastating wars using such advanced vehicles and other "futuristic weapons" that had destoryed the ancient Indian "Rama Empire" several thousand years before.
Only a few years ago, the Chinese discovered some sanskrit documents in Lhasa, Tibet and sent them to the University of Chandrigarh to be translated. Dr. Ruth Reyna of the University said recently that the documents contain directions for building interstellar spaceships!
Their method of propulsion, she said, was "anti-gravitational" and was based upon a system analogous to that of "laghima," the unknown power of the ego existing in man's physiological makeup, "a centrifugal force strong enough to counteract all gravitational pull." According to Hindu Yogis, it is this "laghima" which enables a person to levitate.
Dr. Reyna said that on board these machines, which were called "Astras" by the text, the ancient Indians could have sent a detachment of men onto any planet, according to the document, which is thought to be thousands of years old. The manuscripts were also said to reveal the secret of "antima"; "the cap of invisibility" and "garima"; "how to become as heavy as a mountain of lead."
Naturally, Indian scientists did not take the texts very seriously, but then became more positive about the value of them when the Chinese announced that they were including certain parts of the data for study in their space program! This was one of the first instances of a government admitting to be researching anti-gravity.
The manuscripts did not say definitely that interplanetary travel was ever made but did mention, of all things, a planned trip to the Moon, though it is not clear whether this trip was actually carried out. However, one of the great Indian epics, the Ramayana, does have a highly detailed story in it of a trip to the moon in a Vimana (or "Astra"), and in fact details a battle on the moon with an "Asvin" (or Atlantean" airship.
This is but a small bit of recent evidence of anti-gravity and aerospace technology used by Indians. To really understand the technology, we must go much further back in time.
The so-called "Rama Empire" of Northern India and Pakistan developed at least fifteen thousand years ago on the Indian sub-continent and was a nation of many large, sophisticated cities, many of which are still to be found in the deserts of Pakistan, northern, and western India. Rama existed, apparently, parallel to the Atlantean civilization in the mid-Atlantic Ocean, and was ruled by "enlightened Priest-Kings" who governed the cities, The seven greatest capital cities of Rama were known in classical Hindu texts as "The Seven Rishi Cities."
According to ancient Indian texts, the people had flying machines which were called "Vimanas." The ancient Indian epic describes a Vimana as a double-deck, circular aircraft with portholes and a dome, much as we would imagine a flying saucer.
It flew with the "speed of the wind" and gave forth a "melodious sound." There were at least four different types of Vimanas; some saucer shaped, others like long cylinders ("cigar shaped airships"). The ancient Indian texts on Vimanas are so numerous, it would take volumes to relate what they had to say. The ancient Indians, who manufactured these ships themselves, wrote entire flight manuals on the control of the various types of Vimanas, many of which are still in existence, and some have even been translated into English.
The Samara Sutradhara is a scientific treatise dealing with every possible angle of air travel in a Vimana. There are 230 stanzas dealing with the construction, take-off, cruising for thousand of miles, normal and forced landings, and even possible collisions with birds. In 1875, the Vaimanika Sastra, a fourth century B.C. text written by Bharadvajy the Wise, using even older texts as his source, was rediscovered in a temple in India. It dealt with the operation of Vimanas and included information on the steering, precautions for long flights, protection of the airships from storms and lightening and how to switch the drive to "solar energy" from a free energy source which sounds like "anti-gravity."
The Vaimanika Sastra (or Vymaanika-Shaastra) has eight chapters with diagrams, describing three types of aircraft, including apparatuses that could neither catch on fire nor break. It also mentions 31 essential parts of these vehicles and 16 materials from which they are constructed, which absorb light and heat; for which reason they were considered suitable for the construction of Vimanas. This document has been translated into English and is available by writing the publisher VYMAANIDASHAASTRA AERONAUTICS by Maharishi Bharadwaaja, translated into English and edited, printed and published by Mr. G. R. Josyer, Mysore, India, 1979 (sorry, no street address). Mr. Josyer is the director of the International Academy of Sanskrit Investigation located in Mysore.
There seems to be no doubt that Vimanas were powered by some sort of "anti-gravity." Vimanas took off vertically, and were capable of hovering in the sky, like a modern helicopter or dirigible. Bharadvajy the Wise refers to no less than 70 authorities and 10 experts of air travel in antiquity. These sources are now lost.
Vimanas were kept in a Vimana Griha, a kind of hanger, and were sometimes said to be propelled by a yellowish-white liquid, and sometimes by some sort of mercury compound, though writers seem confused in this matter. It is most likely that the later writers on Vimanas, wrote as observers and from earlier texts, and were understandably confused on the princible of their propulsion. The "yellowishwhite liquid" sounds suspiciously like gasoline, and perhaps Vimanas had a number of different propulsion sources, including combustion engines and even "pulse-jet" engines. It is interesting to note, that the Nazis developed the first practical pulse-jet engines for their V-8 rocket "buzz bombs." Hitler and the Nazi staff were exceptionally interested in ancient India and Tibet and sent expeditions to both these places yearly, starting in the 30's, in order to gather esoteric evidence that they did so, and perhaps it was from these people that the Nazis gained some of their scientific information!
According to the Dronaparva, part of the Mahabarata, and the Ramayana, one Vimana described was shaped like a sphere and born along at great speed on a mighty wind generated by mercury. It moved like a UFO, going up, down, backwards and forewards as the pilot desired. In another Indian source, the Samar, Vimanas were "iron machines, well-knit and smooth, with a charge of mercury that shot out of the back in the form of a roaring flame." Another work called the Samaranganasutradhara describes how the vehicles were constructed. It is possible that mercury did have something to do with the propulsion, or more possibly, with the guidance system. Curiously, Soviet scientists have discovered what they call "age-old instruments used in navigating cosmic vehicles" in caves in Turkestan and the Gobi Desert. The "devices" are hemispherical objects of glass or porcelain, ending in a cone with a drop of mercury inside.
It is evident that ancient Indians flew around in these vehicles, all over Asia, to Atlantis presumably; and even, apparently, to South America. Writing found at Mohenjodaro in Pakistan (presumed to be one of the "Seven Rishi Cities of the Rama Empire") and still undeciphered, has also been found in one other place in the world Easter Island! Writing on Easter Island, called Rongo-Rongo writing, is also undeciphered, and is uncannily similar to the Mohenjodaro script. Was Easter Island an air base for the Rama Empire's Vimana route? (At the Mohenjo-Daro Vimana-drome, as the passenger walks down the concourse, he hears the sweet, melodic sound of the announcer over the loudspeaker,
"Rama Airways flight number seven for Bali, Easter Island, Nazca, and Atlantis is now ready for boarding. Passengers please proceed to gate number..") in Tibet, no small distance, and speaks of the "fiery chariot" thusly "Bhima flew along in his car, resplendent as the sun and loud as thunder... The flying chariot shone like a flame in the night sky of summer ... it swept by like a comet... It was as if two suns were shining. Then the chariot rose up and all the heaven brightened."
In the Mahavira of Bhavabhuti, a Jain text of the eighth century culled from older texts and traditions, we read "An aerial chariot, the Pushpaka, conveys many people to the capital of Ayodhya.
The sky is full of stupendous flying-machines, dark as night, but picked out by lights with a yellowish glare-"
The Vedas, ancient Hindu poems, thought to be the oldest of all the Indian texts, describe Vimanas of various shapes and sizes the "ahnihotra-vimana" with two engines, the "elephant-vimana" with more engines, and other types named after the kingfisher, ibis and other animals.
Unfortunately, Vimanas, like most scientific discoveries, were ultimately used for war. Atlanteans used their flying machines, "Vailixi," a similar type of aircraft, to literally try and subjugate the world, it would seem, if Indian texts are to be believed. The Atlanteans, known as "Asvins" in the Indian writings, were apparently even more advanced technologically than the Indians, and certainly of a more war-like temperment. Although no ancient texts on Atlantean Vailixi are known to exist, some information has come down through esoteric, "occult" sources which describe their flying machines. Similar, if not identical to Vimanas, Vailixi were generally "cigar shaped" and had the capability of manuvering underwater as well as in the atmosphere or even outer space. Other vehicles, like Vimanas, were saucer shaped, and could apparently also be submerged.
According to Eklal Kueshana, author of "The Ultimate Frontier," in an article he wrote in 1966, Vailixi were first developed in Atlantis 20,000 years ago, and the most common ones are "saucershaped of generally trapezoidal cross-section with three hemispherical engine pods on the underside." "They use a mechanical antigravity device driven by engines developing approximately 80,000 horse power."
The Ramayana, Mahabarata and other texts speak of the hideous war that took place, some ten or twelve thousand years ago between Atlantis and Rama using weapons of destruction that could not be imagined by readers until the second half of this century.
The ancient Mahabharata, one of the sources on Vimanas, goes on to tell the awesome destructiveness of the war "...(the weapon was) a single projectile charged with all the power of the Universe. An incandescent column of smoke and flame As bright as the thousand suns rose in all its splendor... An iron thunderbolt,
A gigantic messenger of death,
Which reduced to ashes
The entire race of the Vrishnis
And the Andhakas.
... the corpses were so burned
As to be unrecognizable.
The hair and nails fell out;
Pottery broke without apparent cause,
And the birds turned white.
... After a few hours
All foodstuffs were infected...
... to escape from this fire
The soldiers threw themselves in streams
To wash themselves and their equipment..."
It would seem that the Mahabharata is describing an atomic war! References like this one are not isolated; but battles, using a fantastic array of weapons and aerial vehicles are common in all the epic Indian books. One even describes a Vimana-Vailix battle on the Moon! The above section very accurately describes what an atomic explosion would look like and the effects of the radioactivity on the population. Jumping into water is the only respite.
When the Rishi City of Mohenjodaro was excavated by archeologists in the last century, they found skeletons just lying in the streets, some of them holding hands, as if some great doom had suddenly overtaken them. These skeletons are among the most radioactive ever found, on a par with those found at Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Ancient cities whose brick and stone walls have literaly been vitrified, that is-fused together, can be found in India, Ireland, Scotland, France, Turkey and other places. There is no logical explanation for the vitrification of stone forts and cities, except from an atomic blast. Futhermore, at Mohenjo-Daro, a well planned city laid on a grid, with a plumbing system superior to those used in Pakistan and India today, the streets were littered with "black lumps of glass." These globs of glass were discovered to be clay pots that had melted under intense heat!
With the cataclysmic sinking of Atlantis and the wiping out of Rama with atomic weapons, the world collapsed into a "stone age" of sorts, and modern history picks up a few thousand years later. Yet, it would seem that not all the Vimanas and Vailixi of Rama and Atlantis were gone. Built to last for thousands of of years, many of them would still be in use, as evidenced by Ashoka's "Nine Unknown Men" and the Lhasa manuscript.
That secret societies or "Brotherhoods" of exceptional, "enlightened" human beings would have preserved these inventions and the knowledge of science, history, etc., does not seem surprising. Many well known historical personages including Jesus, Buddah, Lao Tzu, Confucious, Krishna, Zoroaster, Mahavira, Quetzalcoatl, Akhenaton, Moses, and more recent inventors and of course many other people who will probably remain anonomous, were probably members of such a secret organization.
It is interesting to note that when Alexander the Great invaded India more than two thousand years ago, his historians chronicled that at one point they were attacked by "flying, fiery shields" that dove at his army and frightened the cavalry. These "flying saucers" did not use any atomic bombs or beam weapons on Alexander's army however, perhaps out of benevolence, and Alexander went on to conquer India.
It has been suggested by many writers that these "Brotherhoods" keep some of their Vimanas and Vailixi in secret caverns in Tibet or some other place is Central Asia, and the Lop Nor Desert in western China is known to be the center of a great UFO mystery. Perhaps it is here that many of the airships are still kept, in underground bases much as the Americans, British and Soviets have built around the world in the past few decades.
Still, not all UFO activity can be accounted for by old Vimanas making trips to the Moon for some reason. Undoubtedly, some are from the Military Governments of the world, and possibly even from other planets. Of course, many UFO sightings are "swamp, gas, clouds, hoaxes, and hallucinations, while there is considerable evidence that many UFO sightings, especially "kidnappings" and the like, are the result of what is generally called "telepathic hypnosis." One common thread that often runs between "Alien kidnappings," "sex with aliens," and other "close encounters of a third kind" is a buzzing in the ears just before the encounter. According to many well informed people, this is a sure sign of telepathic hypnosis."
The above article is from the following link
http//dspace.dial.pipex.com/ritson/scispi/roswell/ancient.htm
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Brother,i think youll appreciate the work of zacharia sitchin (www.sitchin.com) it is truely mindboggling. I far from agree to all his theory, but i must admit that it is solid work. And the man is not just sopme conspiracy nut, but a rather good hebrew schoolar. Im not sure the rabbis would appreaciate how he lay out their and the christians scriptures. He basically claim that its all stolen/based from sumerian clay tablets and cylender seals, written in cuneiform and through images.
http//www.sitchin.com/images/Hermitage.jpg
We so want to belive that we are the navel of the universe. the single most important part of creation. and that truely stops our development.
and understanding. Look at the image above. What do you see? Dont limit yourself by what is apparently most plausble. what does it look like?And here is a very interresting observation done by sitchin aswell.
http//www.sitchin.com/images/dna1.jpgOfcourse both images deserve a whole lecture on their own, and there is so much more to it, than just fiding similar pictures. But isnt it the leats odd, that the symbol of two snakes have been used as a representative of medicine through all known written history nearly, so resembles what we belive DNA to look like?
Who knows the answers, all we can do is educate ourself, and make an educated guess. And that is what i feel zacharias has, although i simply cannot get my head around a lot of his stuff.
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Salaamun Alaikum,
Dear brothers and sisters in Islam,Are there other forms other than human and places that WE DON'T KNOW?
Please look at the following verses
Have you noted the semen that you produce? 5658
Did you create it, or were We the Ones who created it? 5659
We have predetermined death for you. Nothing can stop Us, 5660
From transforming your forms, and establishing you in what you do not know. 5661How far jinns can travel?
And we touched the heavens, but found it full of powerful guards and projectiles. 728
And we used to sit in it in places of listening, but anyone who sits now finds a projectile seeking him. 729
Where they live?
And we do not know, is it bad that is intended for those on Earth, or does their Lord want them to be guided? 7210
Not on Earth?
Please check the Arabic text and different translations before going to any conclusion.
Regards,
MMKhan
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Peace be upon you,
http//www.sitchin.com/images/dna1.jpg
Ofcourse both images deserve a whole lecture on their own, and there is so much more to it, than just fiding similar pictures. But isnt it the leats odd, that the symbol of two snakes have been used as a representative of medicine through all known written history nearly, so resembles what we belive DNA to look like?
Two snakes? There is only ONE snake with TWO heads in the first image wink
Regards,
MMKhan
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Nope...look again
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No, look at it as many times as you need.
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