Islam is not the way
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Thanks shock
I thought the issue deserved immediate attention.
Godbless,
ProGodwould you like to give some examples on the usage of the word "Islam" and "muslim" with other context ? I think it will shed some light on this topic..)
peace
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peace Anwar,
I agree with you about the unecessary making of nouns/titles. It misses the point of the word.
Shamsul, please see the following thread for common usage of muslim/islam/iman in 'al quran' itself
Taken from this thread.
the primary meaning of islam is compliance etc. the word has nothing inherently to do with God. if it had an inherent implication of god then there would be no need to mention "compliance to... insert object here (e.g. The God)" as it does in many places in al quran.
how about some clear undisputble examples of common usage...
4816, 2731, 2738
dont get me wrong, its secondary meaning can be islam, as in our system/obligation, fine, but dont mke out Islam/Muslim should have a capital or the God is inherently implied whenever this word is used. thats wrong in my opinion. Names mean nothing. Other prophets did not use Arabic, thus they obviously never used "Islam or Muslim", thus if they used the word (I'll make one up) "phareps" you think it would be right to attach a special capital to this word and associate the God with its usage and make out its somehow special. the word by itself is not special, the meaning is what is important.
same with iman, it just means faith/belief/conviction etc., nothing inherently to do with God. see the following common usage 213, 2285, 776, 1051, 1083, 1090
Wakas
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God bless,
I agree with you about the unecessary making of nouns/titles. It misses the point of the word.
Yeah, but my point is not about the titles being unnecessary, its more about them being untrue and not be representative of what someone believes.
dont get me wrong, its secondary meaning can be islam, as in our system/obligation,
Wakas, what do you mean by this? How can isalm mean 'our system/obligation'?
Godbless,
ProGod -
Peace Shamsul Arefin,
Thanks shock
I thought the issue deserved immediate attention.
Godbless,
ProGodwould you like to give some examples on the usage of the word "Islam" and "muslim" with other context ? I think it will shed some light on this topic..)
peace
What do you think of 2128? Here Ibraheem, along with his son, Ismaeel, is calling on their "rabb". Check 2127 to confirm this.
"Rabbana waijAAalna muslimayni laka wamin thurriyyatina ommatan muslimatan laka waarina manasikana watub AAalayna innaka anta alttawwabu alrraheemu"
The literal translation by Mohamed Ahmed and his daughter, Samira is
"Our Lord and make us two Moslems to you, and from our descendants, a nation submitting/surrendering/Moslems to you, and show us our rituals/methods of worship and forgive on us, that you are the forgiver, the most merciful."Deos the definition of the word "Muslim" as "One who submits/surrenders to God" make sense?
Anwar Azim
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Yes,
Yes it is literally, 'Make us two submissive ones to you.' Because we don't speak like that in English it would just be 'Make it so that both of us are submissive to you.'
Godbless,
ProGodWhy this need for submission? Why do we have to be submissive?
Regards,
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Peace Progod,
I wrote "Deos the definition of the word "Muslim" as "One who submits/surrenders to God" make sense?"
Yes,
Yes it is literally, 'Make us two submissive ones to you.' Because we don't speak like that in English it would just be 'Make it so that both of us are submissive to you.'Godbless,
And you say, "Yes"! How so? Why not simply plug it and see? How come you see sense in it?
BTW, please address to whom you are writing.
Anwar Azim
