What is "God/Allah"?
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Dear LoteTree,
Love is not a quantifiable substance or existence; it is a variable on our scale of emotions from ?hate? to ?love?.
But these emotions can result in something very real, and tangible, and that is our actions based on, or expressions of, love and/or hate.Right, Satan is not actually good and/or bad, but in our minds Satan gives an image of something ?not so good?.
Well, at least in the minds of some of us, I can not speak on your behalf.Regards
Ali Omar
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My thoughts on the matter can be summed up by my signature
The idea of an indefinable God is not popular amongst most people...
Its a frightening concept to entertain
And, IMO, to entertain it takes a different type of humility and submission.
Its not easy to admit and accept one may never be able to define it in this life.
Its even harder to not CARE about defining this force by manmade definitions.
A credible source is trying to tell me that our "nafs" henders us from the truth here on Earth...
This "nafs" tells you that you are seperated from the whole
that you are separated
that you are "you"
and the creation is something else
and the creator is something else entirely
The nafs is our medium of illusion.
If you can break from the nafs influence,
even if it is only a wrinkle in time
That time is an opportunity for you to "see". -
SaLaM All
I will comment on a remark made by Ali Omar
Is it a logical error because we, humans, perceive ?infinite? as a limit?
Actually we can not even perceive ?infinite?.
Do you think God has the same limitations, or is ?infinite? within God?I agree with you Omar. There are only handful of things which are infinte. For example, 10/3 = 3.33333333333333333.... so on and so on. This is ofcourse man made and therefore can be wrong. But the universe if not infinate. There are only that much number of stars and more are forming. But we are just too lazy to think how much or give that number a name. Even parallell univeres are not infinite. So yes, in that sense God IS bigger than infinite http//www.geocities.com/bigjaxal/s1.gif
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Peace idmkhizar,
Khi- Salam. All these verses prove that we live in a matrix simulated by GOD and all is but an illusion. There is no reality but GOD. Alhamdulillah! GOD Bless!
Hmm... How do you know that "There is no reality but GOD" itself is not an illusion? How about your own writings? Are they illusions? What about your own existence? Is that an illusion? If so, then who is writing? God or some devil? So, again is that an illusion? What about me asking you all this? Is this an illusion?
Anwar Azim
Khi- Salam. Yes i beleive it is all a simulation controlled by GOD at every instant like a matrix. Get my point? GOD Bless!
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Peace Mr. Khi,
Khi- Salam. Yes i beleive it is all a simulation controlled by GOD at every instant like a matrix. Get my point? GOD Bless!
People can believe all sorts of things. It proves nothing. Got it?
Anwar Azim
Khi- Salam. These verses should make it clear
Every person tastes death, then you receive your recompense on the Day of Resurrection. Whoever misses Hell, barely, and makes it to Paradise, has attained a great triumph. The life of this world is no more than an ILLUSION.He promises them and entices them; what the devil promises is no more than an illusion.
Comment When the devil entices us to go after wealth, big cars, luxurious mentions, we must not forget that these are all illusions and that GOD is the real reality. We must never forget GOD. We can take pleaseure in this world BUT THROUGH THE REMEMBRANCE OF GOD.The life of this world is no more than ILLUSION and vanity, while the abode of the Hereafter is far better for the righteous. Do you not understand?!
O people, you shall reverence your Lord, and fear a day when a father cannot help his own child, nor can a child help his father. Certainly, GOD's promise is truth. Therefore, do not be distracted by this life; do not be distracted from GOD by mere ILLUSIONs.
We know now by modern scientific reseasrch that everything we see, touch or smell ARE MERE PERCEPTIONS IN THE BRAIN. Neither the smell nor the light reaches the brain. Inside it is completely dark. Only electrical signals. If we were able to stimulate those particular neorons in the brain by electrical signals we would see, smell or hear according to the stimulation without anything actually being present. Take dreams for example. We see, hear and even smell but there's nothing but electrical signals. So it's all ultimately signals/waves which issue from the Almightya GOD so there is no reality but Him. Get it? GOD Bless!
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What is God? can we think about IT beyond our traditional theory ?
"The fishes of a certain river communed with one another, saying, they tell us that our life and being is from water, but we have never seen water, we don't know what it is." Then some among them, wiser than the rest, said, We have heard there dwells in the sea a wise and learned fish, who knows all things. Let us journey to him, and ask him to show us what water is."
"So several of them set out to find this great and wise fish, and they came at last to the sea where in the wise fish dwelt, and they asked of him."
"And when he heard them he said to them, O you foolish fish that don't contemplate! The few of you who seek, are wise. You live, and move, and have your being in the water; from the water you came, to the water you return. You live in the water, yet you don't know it.' In a similar manner, you live in God, and yet you ask of me, 'Show us God.' God is in all things, and all things are in God."
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Peace Mr. Khi,
I am going to take a long break from FreeMinds Forum. I'll reply to your post when I get back.
Anwar Azim
Khi- Salam. These verses should make it clear
Every person tastes death, then you receive your recompense on the Day of Resurrection. Whoever misses Hell, barely, and makes it to Paradise, has attained a great triumph. The life of this world is no more than an ILLUSION.He promises them and entices them; what the devil promises is no more than an illusion.
Comment When the devil entices us to go after wealth, big cars, luxurious mentions, we must not forget that these are all illusions and that GOD is the real reality. We must never forget GOD. We can take pleaseure in this world BUT THROUGH THE REMEMBRANCE OF GOD.The life of this world is no more than ILLUSION and vanity, while the abode of the Hereafter is far better for the righteous. Do you not understand?!
O people, you shall reverence your Lord, and fear a day when a father cannot help his own child, nor can a child help his father. Certainly, GOD's promise is truth. Therefore, do not be distracted by this life; do not be distracted from GOD by mere ILLUSIONs.
We know now by modern scientific reseasrch that everything we see, touch or smell ARE MERE PERCEPTIONS IN THE BRAIN. Neither the smell nor the light reaches the brain. Inside it is completely dark. Only electrical signals. If we were able to stimulate those particular neorons in the brain by electrical signals we would see, smell or hear according to the stimulation without anything actually being present. Take dreams for example. We see, hear and even smell but there's nothing but electrical signals. So it's all ultimately signals/waves which issue from the Almightya GOD so there is no reality but Him. Get it? GOD Bless!
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Har che andeshi pa zerai pana ast
Wa anche dar andesha na ayad an ?Khoda? ast! (Rumi)Mere thinking seeks sanctuary when it?s exhausted (ppl think about it and at the end defines it so it fits with their mindset)..
But the thing that doesn?t come to your comprehension is ?Khoda? (God)!One wonders what doesn?t come to our comprehension!
Anyway, I have two questions in relation to this topic.
- Where does the name Allah come from?
- Can the Righteous meet this Allah when they make it to heaven?
peace
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- Where does the name Allah come from?
Khi- "Allah" is not a name. It's a conraction of the words 'al(the)' and 'ilah(deity)' meaning the god or God or GOD. Just like in Greek we have tontheos(god) and Hotheos(God with capital G). Not all laguages have this distinction btw God(specific) and god(common) but Arabic and Greek does. The word "Allah" is used by all Arabs ncluding Christians, Jews, etc.
- Can the Righteous meet this Allah when they make it to heaven?
peace
Khi- Theres no "THIS Allah" for the word "Allah" is grammatically already in the specific form. Anyways we all areoing to meet GOD one day to give an accounting. GOD Bless!
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All there is, and very conscious about it.
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Khizar,
Nice reply you got there.