God alone, Al-quran alone
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Salaam.
I converted to Islam for about ten years ago.
It started when I was in school and we were doing a work on the different religions. I did a work about Islam becouse I hated it so much. I hated all muslims. I thougt Islam was degrading to women and I just didn't like it at all. ( and i still think the ones who calls themeself muslims and follows ahadith is degrading to women )
I had to read a lot to be able to do this school-project. And the more I read the more I started realizing how wrong I was. Islam became more and more intersting and I couldn't stop reading about it. I found Islam to be the opposite to what I had known about it. I started to think Islam was a beautyful and fair religion.
So after I had finnished the project I continued to study about Islam. And after a while a decided to convert.
Then I met a man, a muslim. I have allways said, never to get involved with a muslim...
But anyway.. We went to Tunisia for a vacation, and I converted in the mosque in Kairoan.
My (now ex-)husband was born shia but didn't like to call himself that. He thought muslim was enough. I didn't think about shia or sunni at that time. I was happy for having found something I felt was right in my heart. I only read Al-Quran. Were I live I was the first to convert. But after a few years another girl became a muslim, and we starded having small get togethers, with a few other girls that was borned muslims. We asked questions, and discussed Islam, and that was the first time I came in contact with ahadith. I had to find out what ahadith was... I looked at how ahadith was collected. And I couldn't understand how anyone could belive in theme. I understood, I too, in one way, followed ahadith, though I did my salat after ahadith. So I started shearching for information on the net. I found information about what Al-Quran sais about ahadith, from a site, called submission. I read everything from that site, and I thought it made since. But then I found out about R.Khalifa talking about himself as somekind of messenger. That did NOT make since...
So I didn't go to that site anymore. I still think submission is good at pointing out things in a Quranical perspective.
I read something about this place, free-minds, on a debating-forum. I checked it out, and here I am...
I would like to learn more about Al-Quran, but I can't read araby. So I have to rely on the swedish and english translations of Al-Quran. I try to read as many translations possible on every matter. If something doesn't seems right I ask an arabian friend to explain the words.
But to follow Allah SWT and the words of Him, Al-Quran, and nothing else, is the right path for me. That I can feel in my heart.Wa Salaam
Sara -
SaLaM Sweden-Sara ( i will start calling you SS in a short while )
Welcome to our humble forum. You know, you are not alone in this, many many women have come to know of God in such way, through experiance. I feel us to be more lucky than others becoz GOD himself brought us here. I hope you can learn more and more from us and i hope we can help you in any way you like us to. There are some very talented people on the forum ( me included loll ... j/k ) like zenje, wakas, marie ( espeically marie, u will love her gentle nature ), and many many others from whome you can learn even more. And BEST of all is GOD himself. I give u a warm welcome here Sweden Sara
(I will definately visit Sweden sometime in my life. I so want to go there )
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Salaam Jaxal and Zenje!
To Jaxal Why would you like to visit Sweden?
To Zenje No, I dont know SwedenMajidah.Thank you both for welcoming me. I will try to participate on this forum, and follow your ongoing debates.
Wa Salaam
Sara (ss wink ) -
SaLaM SS )
To Jaxal Why would you like to visit Sweden?
Honestly? Well... blonde haired and blue eyed girls lolllllllllll P . No im kidding, actually ive seen it in pictures and seems to be a wonderful place. Its on my list of countries i want to visit. On my list I have
1] Sweden
2] Austria
3] Norway
4] Belgium
5] DenmarkAnd i cant speak the language of either one of the above countries lollll.. so no idea how i will communicate. But hopefully one day Inshallah, i will go to all those countries )
Oh and SwedenMajiah is a very wonderful member of our forum, and she hates meat eaters lolllllllllll, so if u eat meat, you better watch out lollllll... im having a discussion with her abou tthis right now lolllll
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Salaam Sara,
V?lkommen hit!
You are welcome to contact me if you want at [email protected]
Which city in Sweden are you from?
I'm from Lund in sk?ne.
Peace
Sis Majidah -
Salaam Jaxal,
I don't hate meat eaters!!!!!
ILOVE YA MAN!!!!
Peace
Majidah -
peace Sara,
Welcome.
I also dont understand much Arabic but with a little effort, you can easily get some quality study done. Check this out
I'm going to add a Swedish translation + more within the next few days.
Wakas
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Peace Sara,
Welcome to free-minds.org forum. You will cyber-encounter many people with different backgrounds.
I would like to learn more about Al-Quran, but I can't read araby. So I have to rely on the swedish and english translations of Al-Quran. I try to read as many translations possible on every matter. If something doesn't seems right I ask an arabian friend to explain the words.
But you better be careful. If you ask for the meaning of words in religious context, you will get biased meanings. Always try to check, cross-examine them, besides, since you are going to be responsible for yourself only, use your mind, sound reason and logic. All the rest will fall into places. Or they may not, but at least you will be relieved from your conscience that you have done your best on your own and can still look forward for the best. Do not take anyone else's understanding for granted. Cross-examine, cross-examine and cross-examine. )
Sincerely,
Anwar Azim -
Salaam Jaxal!!
You seemed a little bit worried about the communication i the countries you'd like to visit..
I can only speak for Sweden, but I think the people of those countries can speak english..Yes, I don't want to make you disappointed or anything, but not all swedish girl are blond... I'm a brunette... wink
Wa Salam
Sara -
Salaam SwedenMajidah!!
Tack.
I will send you an e-mail.Im from Visby, Gotland, so tomorrow "the week of the Middle Ages", "medeltidsveckan" starts and everybody will wear funny clothes.
Wa Salaam
Sara -
Salaam yfn 123 and Wakas!
Thanks for your advice and the link.
Wa Salaam
Sara -
Salaam sister.
I as member of this forum welcome and you are destined to be here too.
Some of us have been years on line and discussion board and we know each other well. I am one of the oldest (6 8 ) God Alone Quran Alone believers and yet dwelling around this places to learn.. Challenge others and be challenged which is best way to increase my knowledge.First time I visited a Christian female converted to Islam ( which later found is not Islam like you )was calling herself NewCarthy.
She was Canadian born ,educated and working in one of famous universities in Canada as editor ( editing article and letters) . later she decides to marry a Muslim man. Later they had to reside in paris as her husband had to go to special courses to get his degree.
That was year 2000 and me and Kyle Jowell were in contact with her. You find how her case can be close tyou by reading this email.Date Fri, 28 Apr 2000 013529 -0700 (PDT)
From "Catherine Butera" [email protected] View Contact Detailssalam y
how are you? we havent spoken for awhile; usually the
time you are up i am now going to the gym so i am not
on the internet frequentlybut i get your messages; if you are on today email me
and as soon as i get back i will see if i get a hold
of youmy husband found your pages we talked a bit about it ;
but i am forbidden to associate with you , please
make sure to email me and not mesage memy husband agrees re the sunni started another 'sect'
just by calling themselves sunni; but still disagrees
with my rashad; he believes that the Prophet is the
last Messenger; and that the book cannot be changed
i.E. the 2 verses which have been deleted from
rashad's; also he points out that 95 percent muslim
are sunni the rest are something else; and he also
says no arab muslim has ever became a 'submitter' for
the mere fact that they know arabic; whereas others
from iraq; afghanistan; pakistan; turkey ; or ppl who
do not speak arabic only change because they dont know
arabic,but i must say he says if you dont want to believe in
the hadiths dont; God's Word is the Quran; he also
tells me about these 40 hadiths that may be correct;
do u know where i can find these hadiths?ok i am not on the computer on saturday ; or sunday
ciao and peace
She was few months on line and disappeared. In same time I met sister Majidah ( Swedish Majidah)
I am sure she will contact you and you will have lot of things to talk. But I would like to see your discussion publicly here and may you input can cause another deeper look into our belief and helping us to find the truth.Sister Majdah is going trough a test these days. I am sure that she will find the truth and wull save herself with her heart clear of any prejudices.
After God Alone Quran Alone there has been signs for supporting my path. Following is part of these signs
It is missing date but should be y2k
salaam! I can by tears understand what he is going through,because I have
walk in that path before,and it was a painful path.
I was born in a christian family a protestant form of christianity
common in Sweden.
I get hidaya from God in the summer of 1989,but I thought I couldn't
handle my new beliefs so I married with an Malay man who was sunni
muslim.
Here begins all the struggles in my life!
Because I was new muslim I had very little knowledge about Islam so
my husband teached me what he had been heard.
He was strict in his rituals and wanted me to follow them too,and I
was told that if I followed them I should be rewarded tenfaults of my
deeds,so I followed them but was not happy.
I became angry and weeping alot and thought it should be better if we
move to another country,so we did,but I feel worse and worse and I
went home again.
In the beginning of year 2000 I start to visit religious clubs on
internet and felt better!
I suddenly had someone to talk with!
I visit a club by mistake it was a submitter club named God Alone
Quran Alone and I stayed there even if I was very suspicious in the
beginning but it was something who hold me so I couldn't leave it!
It is thanks to that club that I became open minded and begin to seek
for knowledge on my own.
I'm very thankful to Brother Bahman who supported me from the
beginning even if I asked stupid questions which other submitters was
angry to answer.
I have learn that if we will find the truth we must search for it by
our own and not trust so called scolars in Islam who can know less
than ourelves.
I'm today a monotheist who follow only Allah and his scripture Al-
Quran.
Al-Hamdulillah
PeaceTo [email protected]
From [email protected] View Contact DetailsSubject Yahoo! Clubs GOD ALONE QURAN ALONE
Assalamu Alaikum
I will just tell you short that my belief status is
I do believe in God alone Quraan alone and I work right now very hard
with myself to find the real me!I'm very sensitive for the moment and also have alot of problem with my
husband,who I still loves even if we have begins to move away from
eachother because of our different belief status!I revert to islam for about 10 yrs ago and I'm married with a sunni
muslim from Malaysia I have 4 kids.I'm from Sweden in Scandinavia and I'm a white woman raised in a
christian family,1 brother and 1 sister my sister is also a muslim.I'm a positive ,happy woman who enjoy the life my lord has given
me.Truly thankfull to God that I'm muslim and that I have took my chanse to
move on and not stay on the same place and waiting.I love God and always beg God to guide me on the right path even before
I was muslim I used to talk to God He is my one and only true friend.LA ILA HA IL LALLAH
Majidah
That was 5 years ago. Sister majidah has her own forum in Yahoo
This post is just familiar you with environment of this forum.
Now I have only one question?
What makes you sure that Quran is authored by God Alone?Peace.
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Salaam brother Bahman!
Thank you for your post.
You had a question for me.
I belive there are many scientific facts in Al-Quran that wasn't recognized by us yet at the time for the revelations of Al-Quran. Things that could only have been known by Allah. Like sweet and salt water, the development of the foetus and a lot more, which I'm sure you are fully aware of. I do not belive in the miracle of 19. I belive its wrong to change Al-Quran, and by removing 9128-129 I think there has been major changes. And I dont think R.Khalifa was any messenger sent by Allah. I do think he pointed out interesting things in Al-Quran that shows us how wrong the public sentiment of Islam is.Wa Salaam
Sara -
Peace be upon you Br Bahman,
Long time I haven't see you around, hope you are fine Insha Allah.
I became a bit shocked when I noticed that you post my old message but I have nothing to hide and today I'm a lot more stronger than that time I can assure you Al-Hamdulillah.
I'm still involved with Br Shareef I hope that doesn't disappoint you but I must follow my heart and soul.
But I am a person that don't comment things I cannot be real sure of so therefore I will not say that I reject 19 theory but I can only say that i don't lay my time on study it and I have no strong will to be guided that way, not now anyway.I follow God Almighty and will not jump on something that feels unsure.
Peace
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Salaam Sara,
Thanks for the mail you send me.
I have replied and tell a little more bout me.
Lucky you who live on Gotland I have always wanted to visit Gotland but never did it.
I like old things and places which can breath a long history.
My dream place to visit is Damascus in Syria and Petra in Jordan and Egypt.
Peace
sis Majidah -
Salam Sara,
Salaam brother Bahman!
I do not belive in the miracle of 19. I belive its wrong to change Al-Quran, and by removing 9128-129 I think there has been major changes. And I dont think R.Khalifa was any messenger sent by Allah.Not believing in the miracle of 19 and RK messengership does not mean your are not a moslem. Infact those are an extreemely advanced topic that only those with deep study (and a lot of free time) can understand. Those believes are based on multiple-meaning (mutasabah) verses.
I recommend you to read a 15 pages Practical Guide to Shahroor-style Islam. Dr. Mohammed Shahroor from Syria is the most influental writer in Free-Minds.org, where you are writing the forum is.
http//en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Straight_Way_of_Life
Peace,
Abu Rizal -
Salaam sister.
Long time I haven't see you around, hope you are fine Insha Allah
.Thank you for your concern and I wish best for you and your family.
When I study Miracle 7+ years ago I wondered why God did not use initials to protect another 84 surat. I promised to God to believe in content of those 84 surat too but had a vision that in future we will find the secret for those Surat. Brother As?ad as a computer engineer recently published his 7 years search in this forum and 19.org too.
His finding is showing how special letters and word have been used as a security seal for whole Quran cover to cover. I am happy to witness such superhuman design in Quran?s text before I leave this illusion.
I have collected all 14 parts and I am behind of studying those as I am very busy with summer activities like gardening and upgrading my home plus house keeping and taking care of 3 docks 2 dogs and one cat. In addition brother Edip has challenged me and i am collecting evidences.I became a bit shocked when I noticed that you post my old message but I have nothing to hide and today I'm a lot more stronger than that time I can assure you Al-Hamdulillah
I delete many emails but I keep some and I am not sure why I have done this for last 7 years.
Those post actually are posted publicly . your email was for members archive of deleted GAQA. As you said nothing there to be hide . It is just a reminder of yours to see if you have changed your path or not?I'm still involved with Br Shareef I hope that doesn't disappoint you but I must follow my heart and soul.
I have heart too but for caring and feeling toward things around me. You have had follow your heart feeling when you married your Sunni husband believing he is Muslim. Later you found the truth and followed Quran Alone.
You following another human as messenger with no solid proof is another part of these destinations. You are destined to go trough these tests and add your knowledge and experiences like all of us.
In years ahead you will look back these days and see how your belief was captured by and feeling of heart and soul without your own verification.
But yet you have time up to 40 years old. D
Is late for me to go by my heart feeling and soul to choose my belief. lolBut I am a person that don't comment things I cannot be real sure of so therefore I will not say that I reject 19 theory but I can only say that i don't lay my time on study it and I have no strong will to be guided that way, not now any way . I follow God Almighty and will not jump on something that feels unsure.
Dear sister.
You may have difficulty to study Miracle due to mixing with Arabic text. Miracle is not easy for people do not know Arabic. I believe that it is revealed for Mohammedans which mostly have Arabic letters in their language.But now we new Miracle which is pure number and I have publish this simple slides to show how it works.
It may worth spend few minutes time
Peace. -
Peace.
I belive there are many scientific facts in Al-Quran
Science is a continuous process to reach the fact and it changes with further studies. Linking verse to such information can claps as soon the theory collapse.
I have had a few vision about some verses linked to our knowledge.
Educating seven billion to understand scientific topic is a very long process hence almost majority know to count 1-9 which has same meaning in all languages and all you need is to know how +-/x.
By the way is claimed that bible has many science link too.I do not belive in the miracle of 19. I belive its wrong to change Al-Quran, and by removing 9128-129
You are not alone. Majority of members of this forum thinking like you and that is influence of your past belief.
Actually this forum is a stage from past belief to Quran Alone with Solid Proof. The web master of this site brother Layth already has agreed with existence of such superhuman mathematical structure as far as he was able to examine.
Sometime takes months and sometime years to reach to fact and truth.Rejecting Miracle by ignoring God Warning for Producing One Sura Like Those is rebelling against God?s sign.
I hope you enjoy time here and once awhile I will come here. I am 3 months behind and have to run.
Peace.
