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    KGB
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    Salaam Sister SwedenMajidah

    Relex sister everyone knows what you meant.

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      Salaam Br KGB,

      I really hope that or I will not be their friend anymore twisted

      You made me feel like a whore or something.

      Repent or........

      Peace
      Sis Majidah

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        LoteTree

        My friend you are very much brain washed by BBC propaganda as well as the elected government propaganda machinery.

        Saddam made lots of mistake so he can't be a good leader.

        I am talking about the popular leaders elected by the democratic system Bush and Blair who are pure evil get elected because the majority of the people voted for them for one reason or another. The problem with democracy is that the good politicians had very little chance of getting elected because majority don't want to listen truth. Politicians who are the biggest liars will be choosen by the majority. Stupidity rules.

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          Sister SwedenMajidah

          There are very intelligent people on this forum and everybody understand what you meant like I did. LoteTree and Saladin I believe take that sentence in the wrong way.

          Relex you are our very Respected Sister.

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            Fahad1
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            Yes ,sister Elke see how stupid they are!!!!!!!

            just playin , sis .
            peace.

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              Jaxal
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              SalaM KGB

              The american people wouldnt even have to vote for Bush to get elected. Loll

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                Walleikum Salaam Jaxal

                LOL, yes thats what I said Bush was selected by the sumpreme court for the first time. Please read my reply on Current Events.

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                  SwedenMajidah
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                  Salaam,

                  Ok, I forgive you all but that is because I'm so kind D

                  Peace
                  Sis Majidah

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                    Dictatorship IS A KILLER.

                    Millions died in the Russian Gulags.
                    Thousands killed and tortured by Saddam.

                    like the elected leaders like Bush never killed anyone , huh ?!

                    Why don't you make a constructive criticism of Prophet Muhammad. I am sure you will enjoy being hung by your short and curlies in your beloved Pakistan -) then perhaps you understand the meaning of democracy and principles of personal liberty!

                    Regards,

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                      Salaam all,
                      Are you playing a game with me????????
                      I haven't said that we shall make love physically(sexual intercourse) LOL who do you think I am!?

                      I knew that Majidah. I was being wittty -)
                      Perhaps witticism does not translate very well into Swedish?
                      Just kiddin -)

                      Regards,

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                        Jaxal
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                        SaLaM

                        I think bush should be hung upside down with his shorts.

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                          LoteTree
                          My friend you are very much brain washed by BBC propaganda as well as the elected government propaganda machinery.

                          I don't read BBC propaganda. Perhaps you are used to Saddam Type Propaganda in the middleeast thats why you say it?

                          I am talking about the popular leaders elected by the democratic system Bush and Blair who are pure evil get elected because the majority of the people voted for them for one reason or another.

                          Bush and Blair Evil? Saudis flying plane load of innocent people into buildings is pure evil! Blowing up crowded commuter trains full of innocent people is pure evil. Saddam gasing the Kurds is pure evil.

                          The problem with democracy is that the good politicians had very little chance of getting elected because majority don't want to listen truth.

                          Dictators Rule on their whim. Thats why they squander their countrys resources and build palaces for themselves.

                          Politicians who are the biggest liars will be choosen by the majority. Stupidity rules.

                          Dictators use Dictator Rules - and that is his WHIM. Dictators that are biggest killers hold on to their power!!!

                          Regards,

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                            The only thing that will serve the interrest of humanity is anarchy. Anarchy is not the lack of law and order (please view meaning number one of 3). but law and order established within each individual as a personal responsability. Any system will turn rotten, not because one system is infinitely worse than others, but because people are dumb and greedy. And lote tree im amazed that you are so blinded by western propaganda, that you fail to see other options than 2 extremes.

                            1.Mob rule (democracy)
                            2. dicatorship

                            there are more and better options, anarchy being my personal favorite.

                            No man shall rule another man, lave that to God.

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                              LoteTree

                              I have nothing to say. You sounds just the Republicans who constantly repeat these opinion on CNN, FOX for their propaganda purposes.

                              So you have your opinion I have mine. I don't like this corrupt democratic system which is infact not the power to the people its the implementation of Corporate Laws.

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                                SaLaM Noah

                                You know brother, i think, i am in agreement with you here. I havent thought it out fully, but the idea of not having a leader and everyone having a say seems pretty good to me. But then again, someone will have to make the final decision if there are more than one opinion on any matter.

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                                  SaLaM Noah

                                  You know brother, i think, i am in agreement with you here. I havent thought it out fully, but the idea of not having a leader and everyone having a say seems pretty good to me. But then again, someone will have to make the final decision if there are more than one opinion on any matter.

                                  wa alaikum salam wr wb

                                  or simply split up in the groups that can be formed and let them go their seperate ways. It is, always has been, and always will be a lie that we have to unite in 200 million citizens blocks of people. If you can get those devided into groups of 50.000 -100-000 that are pleased with their own choices in each group, thats fine.

                                  It would mean a completely different way than now. Many of the luxurys that we know now will not (and should not) be avaible. But i will trade them in any day for peace, love and equality in the human family. not equality just for "the people" because "thepeople" hints that there are "the leaders" aswell, and we all know that "the leaders" have different rights than the people.

                                  A good example is in most democracys. Politicians are protected by diplomatic uminity. So for a minister to be prosecuted for err, or outright lying and staling, that immunity has to be lifted by vote in the parliament. Something that only happens when the lynchmob start to form in the streets and if the error was so grave it cant be overlooked. Thats real fair
                                  Are we to learn from this that leaders are especially moral people? it sure as hell doesnt seem like it!

                                  If the people who makes the laws are not obligated to actually follow them, we simply cannot trust them.

                                  "If the only people who understand the law are lawyers, shouldnt the law only apply to them?"

                                  The 10 commandments are enough law for me. And the basic of my morals can be found in Quran 6151-152. that will do, and if you need more law in your life than that. Thats fine by me, please, by all means use your God given freedom to whatever suits you. Just leave me out of it.

                                  Or to put it really really simple...

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                                    SaLaM Noah

                                    So, you are giving the middle road the middle finger? Lolllllllllllll Its funny, i give the middle finger to the authorities Hahahaahha

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                                      SaLaM Noah

                                      So, you are giving the middle road the middle finger? Lolllllllllllll Its funny, i give the middle finger to the authorities Hahahaahha

                                      hehe no actually its the whole quagmire of a crackpot system, with all its flawed, ridiculous, unfair, unqual, lame, primitive, ill iformed political and relegious philosphies. Goes for ALL current known systems. I have had enough, so i will let guy here speak for me...

                                      To the system, or any system that in the sligtest resembles it

                                      and the horse you rode in on

                                      hehe

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                                        Jaxal
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                                        Looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooollllllllllllll rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl

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                                          Dictatorship IS A KILLER.

                                          Millions died in the Russian Gulags.
                                          Thousands killed and tortured by Saddam.

                                          like the elected leaders like Bush never killed anyone , huh ?!

                                          Why don't you make a constructive criticism of Prophet Muhammad. I am sure you will enjoy being hung by your short and curlies in your beloved Pakistan -) then perhaps you understand the meaning of democracy and principles of personal liberty!

                                          Regards,

                                          Bush and Blair Evil? Saudis flying plane load of innocent people into buildings is pure evil! Blowing up crowded commuter trains full of innocent people is pure evil. Saddam gasing the Kurds is pure evil.

                                          so the elected leaders like bush and blair never killed anyone . havent they killed more ppl than saddam and bin laden ?

                                          a dictator/monarch can be good or evil just like an elected leader .

                                          peace.

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