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Why Jews Do/Don't eat The Swine?

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    Salaams,

    interesting!

    The Kosher Pig?
    by Chaya Shuchat

    Why is the word ?pig? an almost universal symbol of insult? This much-maligned animal has been slapped with the most perverse of labels, from Nazi to sexist. We ascribe to it the worst of human failings, including greed, gluttony, and sloppiness. It is also the most quintessentially ?treif? of animals, with its name being nearly synonymous with non-kosher of the most decadent sort. Let?s face it for an innocent creature, the pig evokes some pretty strong emotions.

    Although far from alone in the litany of non-kosher animals, the pig seems to stand in a class of its own. True, bear or lion meat are far less common menu items than pork or ham. But our feelings towards the pig seem to run far deeper than mere culinary distaste. What makes the pig distinct?

    In general, when describing the kosher status of beast, fowl, or fish, the Torah lists those which are in the minority. Kosher birds are more numerous than those that are non-kosher, so the Torah mentions all impure species by name. On the other hand, there are far fewer kosher than non-kosher animals, so only the kosher ones are specified in the verse. There are four animals that are an exception to this rule the camel, the rabbit, the hare and the pig. They are specifically singled out due to an ambiguity surrounding their status. Kosher animals must possess two characteristics They must chew their cud and have split hooves. The camel, the hare and the rabbit are all ruminating creatures, but their hooves are not split. The pig, on the other hand, has a cleft hoof, but does not chew its cud.

    This may account for the pig?s special ?notoriety? within the class of non-kosher species. Most animals are fairly straightforward their status is certain, and they are fairly easy to identify and classify as kosher or non-kosher. The four enumerated above, however, pose a problem. They possess one kosher sign, but not the other. They might be considered ?semi-kosher? in our eyes, although they are no less impure than the other animals. Yet it is not the camel, the hare or the rabbit that bears the full brunt of our aversion, but the pig. For the pig stands out even within the class of ?imposters.? The other three chew their cud, a not necessarily obvious phenomenon, but do not have split hooves, which are more readily apparent. The pig is different. It brazenly flaunts its foreleg, boasting of its split hoof, while its lack of cud chewing, which would give it away as a non-kosher animal, remains obscured. It is this very attempt to parade and masquerade itself as a kosher creature which earns for the pig its unique status among animals.

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      Peace,

      They possess one kosher sign, but not the other. They might be considered ?semi-kosher? in our eyes

      Whole pig as opposed to pig meat. It is semi kosher to us.

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        Jaxal
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        SaLaM

        JEws are forbidden flesh of the pigs. But non practising jews eat pork. Just like non practising muslims drink alcohol

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          Salaams SC,Jaxal,All,

          The pig has a divided hoof,

          And according to 6145

          006.146
          YUSUFALI For those who followed the Jewish Law, We forbade every (animal) with undivided hoof, and We forbade them that fat of the ox and the sheep, except what adheres to their backs or their entrails, or is mixed up with a bone this in recompense for their wilful disobedience for We are true (in Our ordinances).

          It was only animals with undivided hooves that were forbidden.

          So is the pig forbidden to the Jews?

          If not, are we then allowed to eat their food?

          Enlighten me if you have gone over this already, Thanks.

          Jaxal said Jews are forbidden flesh of the pigs

          Please point out where it says such in their scripture so we may know.

          God s Blessings on All.

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            Peace,

            http//www.free-minds.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4031&start=0

            Enlightenment is something every person must find for themselves. Help yourself and God will help you!

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              Jaxal
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              SaLaM SC and mz357

              Lolll SC that right there is 14 pages of enlightenment Lolllll.

              mz357, The jews were forbidden to eat pigs in Torah. I have given the verses in the above thread posted by SC. The pigs were also forbidden to mankind in the Quran on many places. An example verse

              He Has only forbidden for you what is already dead, and the blood, and the meat of pig, and what was dedicated to other than God. Whoever finds himself forced out of need and without disobedience or animosity, then there is no sin upon him. God is Forgiving, Merciful.

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                PEACE, MZ357.

                Ayat 6146, does not read..."every animal with undivided hoof", the correct translation is as follows

                6146 And to those who were Jews We made unlawful every animal having claws/ZAFARA, and of oxen and sheep We made unlawful to them the fat of both, except such as was on their backs or the entrails or what was mixed with bones this was a punishment We gave them on account of their rebellion, and We are surely Truthful.

                The Arabic term is

                Main Entry ZAFARA to claw or scratch with a nail fingernail clutch claw Nails Claws Talons.

                The Dictionary of the Holy Quran, by Abdul Mannan Omar, pg 350.

                A Dictionary of Modern Arabic Written Arabic, by Hans Wehr, pg. 581, has the same definition as Omar.

                The English-Arabic Translator Dictionary, Steinglass, pg. 146, has the same definition as well.

                Peace. D

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