Is swine halal-2?
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Priest, you're nothing but a dishonest , loud idiot who (in the same manner as those you insulted) substitutes 'loud' text just because you have nothing more to say.
I will ask one more time and then I'll leave you to your pigs.
What is the exception/s to bahimatul an'aam in 5/1?
You know perfectly well it's nothing to do with 'as-said' which Allah says 'wa antum hurumun'.
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Peace Danish,
Everything that the Quran mentions pertaining to our lives, whether grammatically correct or simply the Quran states so, has a REASON, such as gambling, alcoholism, fornication, lying, theft, conjecture, etc., etc. Each of these categories has grave concerns, one way or the other, and PROVEN detrimental.
Oh agreed. There must be a reason certainly. However, let me ask you, if you don't know the reason fornication is bad, will you fornicate?
3/7 tells us that ar-rasikhu fil ilm /those grounded in knowledge will say even of the mutashabih that they believe in fully without seeing it's ta'wil. So rather than pretend to be a zooologist or a bacteriologist. I don't know why pork is rijsun. But I trust God. If you don't, that's your business. Peace be upon you. You're gonna need it.
Certainly, this pertinent question has raised eyebrows and caused diarrhea on those who simply cannot either justify or defend their GOD given intellectual capabilites, but simply throw tantrums on grammar and GOD's Words to justify what is NOT NATURAL/REAL
Al-quraan is in clear arabic. As Marie has proven, clearly beyond the depth of the mud-puddle brain of the Priest, the form of lahumul khinzeer itself is clearly pointing it to be 'meat of the pig'. If you want to make up language as you go along, again, that's your business. Peace be upon you again and again, you're gonna need it.
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Priest, you're nothing but a dishonest , loud idiot who (in the same manner as those you insulted) substitutes 'loud' text just because you have nothing more to say.
I will ask one more time and then I'll leave you to your pigs.
You know perfectly well it's nothing to do with 'as-said' which Allah says 'wa antum hurumun'.
There's no running away now, dude. You put yourself out here and now you are way over your head, but you've got to deal; no wimping out. How did you put it to me?...whimpering? Well, don't start whimpering now lol.
What is the exception/s to bahimatul an'aam in 5/1?
And I will tell you one more time IT IS YOUR ARGUMENT THAT THE PIG IS HARAM QUADRUPED, THUS, THE BURDEN OF PROOF IS ON YOU, SO YOU TELL US WHAT THOSE EXCEPTED QUADRUPEDS ARE. I'm not here to defend/prove your superstitious notions, GOT IT THIS TIME?
YOU STILL HAVE NOT ANSWERED THIS QUESTION
WHY DID ALLAH, ACCORDING TO YOU, MAKE THE PIG HARAM/NOT TAYYIB? WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO DEFEND THIS MOST IMPORTANT ASSERTION OF YOURS; IT IS ABSOLUTELY PERTINENT TO YOUR CASE. STOP EVADING THE QUESTION, THANKS.
When are you going to tell us why Allah made the pig haram...can't do it can you? or maybe you can and just want to keep us in suspension, which is it? lol
Priest, you're nothing but a dishonest , loud idiot...
On the contrary, the above ONLY applies to you and it is one more example of you desperately trying to project your character defects on to me; it won't work. You've been obnoxious and insulting from day one. Any rational human being, who reads our exchanges will see you for the indvidual you are in your above quote...and you know it. Your entire position is fradualent and you'd better stop assigning lies to Allah and His Deen (contemplate ayats 733 and 1736). Anyway, you have thoroughly established that you cannot prove why you erroneously claim that Allah made the pig haram, thus, you have nothing to offer so get lost you're finished lol .
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So lets get this straight, Priest
do you believe in 5/1 or not?
If you do,
then what from bahimatul an'aam are HARAM unconditionally as the verse says?
this is my last post unless you answer because i've reached the clarity of the argument. I'm very happy with how al-quraan points this out and its thank to you
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Oh agreed. There must be a reason certainly...I don't know why pork is rijsun.
Well, given that YOU DON"T KNOW pork is haram and cannot prove what you conjecture, how then, DO YOU KNOW IT IS, and worse, why do you follow something and encourage others to follow and you don't know if you are correct or not?! You, by maintaining that the pig is haram without being able to prove it via Al-Quran, are doing PRECISELY what Allah has told you NOT TO DO...say anything of Him of which you have NO KNOWLEDGE and following something of which you have NO KNOWLEDGE, to wit
733 Say the things that my Lord hath indeed made HARAM are shameful deeds...and saying things about Allah of which ye have no KNOWLEDGE.
1736 And do not pursue/follow that which you have no KNOWLEDGE...
You will note that, in both ayats it clearly states KNOWLEDGE and not...OPINION. Please learn the difference between these two terms, would you?lol Please study the following, it will help you to discern the difference between knowledge and opinion.
PEACE, TO ALL,
OPINION AND LIE
A question I've been asking myself of late is...is opinion making/conjecturing, when ascribing something to Allah, His Deen, and His Quran, actually giving a lie to Him?
6116 Were you to follow the majority of those on earth, they will lead you away from the way of Allah. They follow nothing but conjecture they do nothing but lie .
4320 ("Ah!") they say, "If it had been the will of ((Allah)) Most Gracious, we should not have worshipped such (deities)!" Of that they have no knowledge! they do nothing but lie!
5328 And they have no knowledge of it; they do not follow anything but conjecture , and surely conjecture does not avail against the truth at all.
1017 Who does more wrong than such as forge a lie against Allah, or deny His Ayats? But never will prosper those who sin.
Main Entry LIE to make an untrue statement with intent to deceive to create a false or misleading impression falsehood an untrue statement.
It appears from the above defintion that, a lie, doesn't have to be an intention act. Denial for example is an unconscious defense mechanism, hence, a lie.
To say of Allah and/or his Deen, " I think" or "it is my opinion" that so and so means...is in reality to say..."well...I don't know".
Main Entry KHARASA to lie to guess appraise infer on insufficient grounds conjecture form or express opinion without sufficent evidence for proof beg or forge speculate presume.
Main Entry DHANNA/RAMA opinion assumption view belief supposition to imagine to "think" speak conjecturally.
Main Entry FORGE/AFTA to make or imitate falsely especially with intent to defraud countrfeit to form or bring into being.
Main EntrY AFTA/FORGE to advise give an opinion and instruction, judgement, or decision in a matter of law explain the meaning of furnish an explanation
Main Entry SPECULATE to review something idly or casually and often inconclusively to take to be true on the basis of insufficient evidence
Main Entry CONJECTURE supposition inference from defective or presumptive evidence a conclusion deduced by surmise or guesswork.
Main Entry SUPPOSITION to lay down tentatively as a hypothesis, assumption, or proposal to hold as an opinion.
Main Entry PRESUMPTIVE based on probability or presumption giving grounds for reasonable opinion or belief an attitude or belief dictated by probability assumption the ground, reason, or evidence lending probability to a belief a legal inference as to the existence or truth of a fact not certainly known that is drawn from the known or proved existence of some other fact.
Main Entry OPINION belief stronger than impression and less strong than positive knowledge.
Main Entry "I"...THINK to have as an opinion to regard as.
Main Entry IMPRESSION a vague idea in which some confidence is placed.
Main Entry ALAMA to distinguish sign science knowledge.
Main Entry POSITIVE KNOWLEDGE not speculative incontestable independent of changing circumstances.
Main Entry KNOW to be certain of.
Main Entry CERTAIN known or proved to be true indisputable, dependable, reliable.
Main Entry KNOWLEDGE the fact or condition of knowing something with familiarity gained through experience or association.
Main Entry FACT the quality of being actual something that has actual existence a piece of information presented as having objective reality- in fact in truth.
Main EntryTRUTH the state of being the case fact the body of real things, events, and facts actuality.
733 Say the things that my Lord has indeed made
haram
are shameful deeds, whether open or secret; sins and trespasses against truth or reason; assigning of partners to Allah, for which He has given no authority; and saying things about Allah of which you have no knowledge.1736 And pursue not that of which you have no knowledge; for every act of hearing, or of seeing or of (feeling in) the heart will be enquired into (on the Day of Reckoning)
It is clear from the above ayats and definitions that, conjecture and knowledge are stand in oppostional to each other, and ascribing anything to Allah or His Deen or His Quran which isn't Quranic knowledge/fact/truth, comes under the heading of a...lie. A lie, according to the above definition can simply mean an untrue statement regardless of intent to lie or not. Hence, to give one's opinion of Allah, His Deen, His Quran, is to ascribe a lie to Him, because although an opinion/conjecture is comprised of some facts, the opinion as a whole...is not factual. In regard to Al-Quran, it is not only comprised of facts, but as a whole it is factual.
22 This is the Book; in it is guidance sure, without doubt, to those who fear Allah.
A. GUIDANCE the instructions on how to live a righteous life in this world (especially, not to do shirk) , so that, one may successfuly pass the test of conduct , so that, one may avoid the destiny of Hell and gain the destiny of Paradise .
Allah, per ayat 22, says that, relative to guidance , there is no doubt in Al-Quran, that is, nothing in Al-Quran can be or is conjecture/opinion. Al-Quran, then, is a book of incontestable facts, truth, reality. With these things in mind then, per ayat 733, we can see why Allah commands that no one conjecture or give opinions about Him, His Deen and His Quran, because it is a book free of conjecture or opinions, hence, when ascribing something to Allah, His Deen, His Quran, one can and must only state facts/truth, that is, if one has taken the time to study what the ayat is stating. There is no possible reason for Allah giving mankind a Book of incontestable facts, truth, reality, only for mankind to say..."well, I can only give my opinion or Allah knows best". This entire notion is contradictory to the reason for Al-Quran's existence and its design...to give mankind clear, indesputable, and incontestable knowledge/truth/facts of what Allah demands of mankind before the Day of the Reckoning of the Souls..
In conclusion
1017 Who does more wrong than such as forge a lie against Allah, or deny His Ayats? But never will prosper those who sin.
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So lets get this straight, Priest
do you believe in 5/1 or not?
If you do,
then what from bahimatul an'aam are HARAM unconditionally as the verse says?
this is my last post unless you answer because i've reached the clarity of the argument. I'm very happy with how al-quraan points this out and its thank to you D
And I will tell you one more time IT IS YOUR ARGUMENT THAT THE PIG IS HARAM QUADRUPED, THUS, THE BURDEN OF PROOF IS ON YOU, SO YOU TELL US WHAT THOSE EXCEPTED QUADRUPEDS ARE. I'm not here to defend/prove your superstitious notions, GOT IT THIS TIME?
YOU STILL HAVE NOT ANSWERED THIS QUESTION
WHY DID ALLAH, ACCORDING TO YOU, MAKE THE PIG HARAM/NOT TAYYIB? WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO DEFEND THIS MOST IMPORTANT ASSERTION OF YOURS; IT IS ABSOLUTELY PERTINENT TO YOUR CASE. STOP EVADING THE QUESTION, THANKS.
There's no running away now, dude. You put yourself out here and now you are way over your head, but you've got to deal; no wimping out. How did you put it to me?...whimpering? Well, don't start whimpering now. "Funny how words can backfire" and take a chunk out of your butt, huh lol ?
When are you going to tell us why Allah made the pig haram...can't do it can you? or maybe you can and just want to keep us in suspension, which is it? lol Oh, but you said the following
Oh agreed. There must be a reason certainly...I don't know why pork is rijsun.
Your repsonse is right up there with Jaxal's
I on occasion smoke weed
Anyway, if given that you cannot prove your argument, then, by all means, leave the discussion, because, frankly, we've had enough of your half-baked notions/ideas/distactions/superstitions.
Peace.
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Priest, you misunderstand what im trying to ask.
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do you agree that bahimatul an'aam are halal EXCEPT what's recited on us (illa maa yutlaa alaikum)? Yes or no please.
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If your answer is 'yes' , tell what that bahimatul an'aam which is recited upon us is?
Oh agreed. There must be a reason certainly...I don't know why pork is rijsun.
Get a life and stop pestering grown-ups with your juvenile and half-baked distactions.Good, concealing ANOTHER ayat
High above all is God, the King, the Truth! Be not in haste with the Qur'an before its revelation to thee is completed, but say, "O my Lord! INCREASE MY ILM. (20/114)
I accept Allah's revelations in toto and I don't use it to feed a psychotic ego which needs constant feeding of the 'i'm right' vitamin. As i said, im very glad you brought this subject up.
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Priest, you misunderstand what im trying to ask.
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do you agree that bahimatul an'aam are halal EXCEPT what's recited on us (illa maa yutlaa alaikum)? Yes or no please.
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If your answer is 'yes' , tell what that bahimatul an'aam which is recited upon us is?
I understand you perfectly. Please answer the following
And I will tell you again
IT IS YOUR ARGUMENT THAT THE PIG IS HARAM QUADRUPED, THUS, THE BURDEN OF PROOF IS ON YOU, SO YOU TELL US WHAT THOSE EXCEPTED QUADRUPEDS ARE. I'm not here to defend/prove your superstitious notions.
WHY DID ALLAH, ACCORDING TO YOU, MAKE THE PIG HARAM/NOT TAYYIB? WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO DEFEND THIS MOST IMPORTANT ASSERTION OF YOURS; IT IS ABSOLUTELY PERTINENT TO YOUR CASE. STOP EVADING THE QUESTION, THANKS.
So, do you know or not?
Oh agreed. There must be a reason certainly...I don't know why pork is rijsun.
Anyway, if given that you cannot prove your argument, then, by all means, leave the discussion, because, frankly, we've had enough of your half-baked notions/ideas/distactions/superstitions.
Good, concealing ANOTHER ayat
Speak for yourself.
High above all is God, the King, the Truth! Be not in haste with the Qur'an before its revelation to thee is completed, but say, "O my Lord! INCREASE MY ILM. (20/114)
I accept Allah's revelations in toto and I don't use it to feed a psychotic ego which needs constant feeding of the 'i'm right' vitamin. As i said, im very glad you brought this subject up.
On the contrary, what you accept is conjecture and error in place of guidance and facts, please get it straight. It is your own ego that has lead you into the deep waters of this debate and now you find yourself drowned. When you answered... "I don't know why the pig is rijsun", you not only demolished you position/assertion that the pig is haram, but you went dead against Allah per ayat 733 and 1736, but you don't possess the taqwa yet to reverse yourself and that is "psychotic ego".
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Peace mq,
I brought this up on the original thread...it's no use really...we've gone through all the motions, it's like talking to an automaton set on DENY.
do you believe in 5/1 or not?
If you do,
then what from bahimatul an'aam are HARAM unconditionally as the verse says?
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WHY DID ALLAH, ACCORDING TO YOU, MAKE THE PIG HARAM/NOT TAYYIB?
PB, what do you think of the following thought ?
If the universe could guide on its own, then the messengers and books would not have been necessary. Only Allah is sufficient as a guide and He guides mankind through His Quran.
The meaning of this sentence is that, there is no proof that, with your reason only, you can guide yourself on the right path.
If your reason was sufficient as a guide, God would not have sent messengers to the humankind.
Please remember you have been created by God. God knows your limitations, he knows the limitations of the human mind.
Beware not to take your reason as a god besides God, like the atheists do.Peace
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Salaamun alaikum Nadia,
I brought this up on the original thread...it's no use really...we've gone through all the motions, it's like talking to an automaton set on DENY.
Hehe, you coulda told me this earlier! Saved me a lot of time . No no, I actually feel good that this is out in the open. Really helped me to see how al-quraan protects its meaning. Subhanallah.
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Salaamun alaikum Nadia,
I brought this up on the original thread...it's no use really...we've gone through all the motions, it's like talking to an automaton set on DENY.
Hehe, you coulda told me this earlier! Saved me a lot of time . No no, I actually feel good that this is out in the open. Really helped me to see how al-quraan protects its meaning. Subhanallah.
Plz check out this page
http//www.free-minds.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4031&start=625 -
Peace Mq,
Well, the Priest can go back to his church of oink if he likes. Im done.
Hahaha...that and the cassock one, you're on fire!! lol
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Mquran, JM, Savage C.,
Your above ad hominem posts will not deliver you from the reality that, per this to discussion, you have absoultely no idea of what you are talking about, and, as a result of your indivdual and collective grand ignorance on this subject, none of you have not been able to prove your superstitious notion that the pig is haram as food for mankind, hence, the following ayats will continue to keep their heels embedded deep in the back of your necks. None of you have been able to overcome them. Your last gasp, Savage and JM, was your grammar conjecture and now that that has failed you, what is your excuse for stubbornly remaining in obvious superstition?...nothing but self-pity and pride.
4160 For the iniquity of the Jews We made unlawful for them certain (foods) good and wholesome which had been lawful for them;- in that they hindered many from Allah's Way;-
51 O you who believe! fulfill the obligations. The quadrupedS are allowed to you except that which is recited to you, not violating the prohibition against game when you are entering upon the performance of the pilgrimage; surely Allah orders what He desires.
55 This day are (all) things good and pure made lawful unto you. The food of the People of the Book is lawful unto you and yours is lawful unto them...
6146 And to those who were Jews We made unlawful every animal having claws, and of oxen and sheep We made unlawful to them the fat of both, except such as was on their backs or the entrails or what was mixed with bones this was a punishment We gave them on account of their rebellion, and We are surely Truthful.
The above ayats, without a doubt, PROVE that the pig was never haram, nor is it haram today, for mankind.
NEITHER OF YOU , TO DATE, HAVE BEEN ABLE TO ANSWER THE FOLLOWING
WHY DID ALLAH, ACCORDING TO YOU PEOPLE, MAKE THE PIG HARAM/NOT TAYYIB? WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO DEFEND THIS MOST IMPORTANT ASSERTION OF YOURS; IT IS ABSOLUTELY PERTINENT TO YOUR CASE, OTHERWISE, YOU ARE BLIND FOLLOWING (in violation of ayat 1736). STOP EVADING THE QUESTION, THANKS.
And, until you people, by way of Al-Quran, prove your assertion that the pig is haram by giving us Allah's reason for it, then you are only conjecturing and following conjecture as truth (in total violation of ayat 1736), hence, you are assigning a lie to Allah and His Deen. Allah, so that you know it, curses those who assign lies/conjectures to Him
1118 And who is more unjust than he who forges a lie against Allah? These shall be brought before their Lord, and the witnesses shall say These are they who lied against their Lord. Now surely the curse of Allah is on the unjust.
You people really look bad, do you know that? You people sound like Apple Pie, trying to defend the superstition known as--Christianity.
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Im done.
LOL!...I told you this several days ago, but you didn't believe me lol.
Knowing that you cannot prove why the pig, according to Al-Quran, is haram/not tayyib, if you continue to misguide yourself and others by still claiming that the pig is haram/not tayyib without knowing why, then you are insulting Allah and His Quran, because you are following conjecture which He condemns.
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Peace mquran,
Everything that the Quran mentions pertaining to our lives, whether grammatically correct or simply the Quran states so, has a REASON, such as gambling, alcoholism, fornication, lying, theft, conjecture, etc., etc. Each of these categories has grave concerns, one way or the other, and PROVEN detrimental.
Oh agreed. There must be a reason certainly.
Then what is the reason certainly for pig?s meat being restricted? If its rijsun, then WHY is it rijsun? Ask yourself this pertinent question since you agreed that everything that the Quran mentions pertaining to our lives/nature/system/law, MUST have a reason. Without any reason or justificaiton, the Quranic message and our purpose of living a life as per its injunctions/jurisdictions would be meaningless. If one doesn?t know, then one mustn?t assign certainty to what is uncertain/doubtful/unknown.
Pig?s meat/flesh is KNOWN to provide food for millions across our globe WITHOUT ANY CONSEQUENCES, medically, scientifically and logically. What else is left to talk about??grammar and GOD said so?..not a wise and intellectual bearing.
However, let me ask you, if you don't know the reason fornication is bad, will you fornicate?
The consequences of wrongdoings of whatever nature are experienced by its actions, by reflecting upon our very own and others past and present, and by reason, heed, intellect and wisdom to know the difference. Not to mention that maturity plays an important role. Hope this will answer your question.
3/7 tells us that ar-rasikhu fil ilm /those grounded in knowledge will say even of the mutashabih that they believe in fully without seeing it's ta'wil.
The question of mutashabih doesn't arise since the verses pertaining to khinzeer are straightforward.
Oh agreed. There must be a reason certainly
I don't know why pork is rijsun. But I trust God.
Speaks for itself. GOD has entrusted upon us to KNOW the difference between pork being rijsun and iill-seeming meat being rijsun by its very nature. Clear as daylight and I am not a blind follower.
If you want to make up language as you go along, again, that's your business.
Language has no basis for extrapolations, dubious understanding and grammatical confinements in which it speaks but logical reasoning by the message it carries.
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Peace to you Danish,
Then what is the reason certainly for pigs meat being restricted? If its rijsun, then WHY is it rijsun? Ask yourself this pertinent question since you agreed that everything that the Quran mentions pertaining to our lives/nature/system/law, MUST have a reason. Without any reason or justificaiton, the Quranic message and our purpose of living a life as per its injunctions/jurisdictions would be meaningless. If one doesnt know, then one mustnt assign certainty to what is uncertain/doubtful/unknown.
Once again, I do not know the biological reason. However, I don't want to disobey Allah just because I don't know.
This said, I'm sure now that the meaning of lahumul khizineer is the meat of the pig. If that's the certainty of information you're talking about, then I am certain now.
Pigs meat/flesh is KNOWN to provide food for millions across our globe WITHOUT ANY CONSEQUENCES, medically, scientifically and logically. What else is left to talk aboutgrammar and GOD said so..not a wise and intellectual bearing.
So if GOD SAID SO doesn't have an intellectual bearing, chuck the book out. If you think you're smarter than the author , thats your business You might find better support in an athiest scientists forum though.
Well, if you're happy to disemphasise al-quraan, that's your business. As for 'without any consequences', I don't know until I actually study the field.
Millions of people fornicate all over the place too. No bolts of lightning come down onto their behinds. So maybe az-zinaa means something else too, do you think ?
Millions of people eat blood-related products. Have you met any of them ? They dont seem to complain too much either. So why not go enjoy a blood pudding this morning.
The consequences of wrongdoings of whatever nature are experienced by its actions, by reflecting upon our very own and others past and present, and by reason, heed, intellect and wisdom to know the difference. Not to mention that maturity plays an important role. Hope this will answer your question.
No it doesn't because you used the 'millions of people eat pork without problems' as an argument. Funnily, the time factor or any other factor doesn't come into play there. Not very objective, my science-loving friend.
The question of mutashabih doesn't arise since the verses pertaining to khinzeer are straightforward
You only made the above statement becuase of your very careless attitude towards al-quraan. Does 'ayat' just mean 'verses' ? 'Ayat' also pertains to signs in our lives and in our psyches. The verses about lahumul khizneer are straightforward but the confirming ayaat in the world (tashbih = similar) is something I havent checked.
Speaks for itself. GOD has entrusted upon us to KNOW the difference between pork being rijsun and iill-seeming meat being rijsun by its very nature. Clear as daylight and I am not a blind follower.
Good for you. I don't know why its haram beyond the fact that its rijsun. The 'ill-seeming' nonsense has no linguistic basis in al-quraan.
Language has no basis for extrapolations, dubious understanding and grammatical confinements in which it speaks but logical reasoning by the message it carries.
Logical reasoning ? like 'millions of ppl eat it without problem' kind of logic. Gimme a break. You don't believe in the book Danish so stop pretending. You believe in science as if its objective but science has its own chosen epistemology. You're in the wrong forum, honestly.
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Salaam all,
I know I shouldn't interrupt you guys but I can't resist
What I'm thinking is that God never mention anything about to slaughter a pig but to slaughter cattles are mentioned.
And think also that the pig stand alone, away from the cattles.The cattles eat grass but the pig eat whatever it founds to eat.
The pig is very looking like the humanbeings in it's metabolism, an embryo of a pig is looking very alike an embryo of an human.
I have thought about this many years ago and then it came up this about that we can use organs like liver and kidneys from pigs.
That's amazing so I think that we shouldn't choose to eat an animal who is too close to us.
I'm very fanatic about what I eat or not, but I respect the reading and do respect that people want to eat meat even if I don't want it.
But to eat as a first choice the pig cannot be recommend because remember that God has give us the cattles to slaughter and eat and they are clean because they don't eat meat.Well I know I just rambling but I guess there are many signs that Pig isn't a good choice.And their meat is more fat than other animals so it's an health issue too.
But I must say that i wonder how people can eat birds!?
Birds are very unclean and they eat whatever they like like the pigs, I have seen chickens eat poo.And aren't the birds from the very beginning a reptile!?
Oh I guess I will stay vegetarian for the rest of my life, a better and healthier choice indeed.
Why argue about what meat to eat when there are thousands of fruits and vegetables to eat shock
And if it will come an disaster of some kind and we can't find food, then God has already point out that we can eat of that ill-seemings so we can survive.
Peace Sis Maria