truth and Ahmed Bahgat...why are you avoiding this question?
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DO PIGS HAVE CLAWS...yes or no? Please focus on this one question and answer yes or no, thanks. Show us how knowledgeable you both are.
Oh, and please, no going off on tangents, temper tantrums or personal attacks. When you resort to personal attacks, you scream out for all to hear that, you have been thoroughly proved wrong and are now, out of hurt feelings and resentment, responding in an emotionally immature fashion and that you hate, not me...but yourselves wink .
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DO PIGS HAVE CLAWS...yes or no? Please focus on this one question and answer yes or no, thanks. Show us how knowledgeable you both are.
Oh, and please, no going off on tangents, temper tantrums or personal attacks. When you resort to personal attacks, you scream out for all to hear that, you have been thoroughly proved wrong and are now, out of hurt feelings and resentment, responding in an emotionally immature fashion and that you hate, not me...but yourselves wink .
Spamming with yet another thread is not going to prove you right.
Your question is a red herring and is immaterial to the fact that your logic is false and this has been shown in the relevant thread.
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DO PIGS HAVE CLAWS...yes or no? Please focus on this one question and answer yes or no, thanks. Show us how knowledgeable you both are.
Oh, and please, no going off on tangents, temper tantrums or personal attacks. When you resort to personal attacks, you scream out for all to hear that, you have been thoroughly proved wrong and are now, out of hurt feelings and resentment, responding in an emotionally immature fashion and that you hate, not me...but yourselves wink .
Spamming with yet another thread is not going to prove you right.
Your question is a red herring and is immaterial to the fact that your logic is false and this has been shown in the relevant thread.
When are you going to stop double talking, going off on tangents, making lame excuses, and simply answer the question put to you? If you won't answer, then you've exposed to all that you are afraid to answer, because to do so, crushes your arguement. In any event, you've exposed yourself as not knowing what you are talking about and have lost all credibilty. You and Bahgat, cannot be taken seriously/credibly, when you avoid answering basic Quranic questions put to you.
http//www.free-minds.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4341
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DO PIGS HAVE CLAWS...yes or no? Please focus on this one question and answer yes or no, thanks. Show us how knowledgeable you both are.
Oh, and please, no going off on tangents, temper tantrums or personal attacks. When you resort to personal attacks, you scream out for all to hear that, you have been thoroughly proved wrong and are now, out of hurt feelings and resentment, responding in an emotionally immature fashion and that you hate, not me...but yourselves wink .
Spamming with yet another thread is not going to prove you right.
Your question is a red herring and is immaterial to the fact that your logic is false and this has been shown in the relevant thread.
When are you going to stop double talking, going off on tangents, making lame excuses, and simply answer the question put to you? If you won't answer, then you've exposed to all that you are afraid to answer, because to do so, crushes your arguement. In any event, you've exposed yourself as not knowing what you are talking about and have lost all credibilty. You and Bahgat, cannot be taken seriously/credibly, when you avoid answering basic Quranic questions put to you.
http//www.free-minds.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4341
Your petulance exposed you long ago.
MAIN ENTRY PETULANT 1. unreasonably irritable or ill-tempered; peevish, 2. contemptuous in speech or behavior.
MAIN ENTRY PEEVISH 1. querulous or discontented. Ill-tempered. Contrary; fractious.
1753 Tell My servants to treat each other in the best possible manner, for the devil will always try to drive a wedge among them. Surely, the devil is man's most ardent enemy.
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Pigs have divided hoof
your silly question been answered
next
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Pigs have divided hoof
your silly question been answered
next
About time lol
Well, according to Al-Quran, Allah made haram to the Jews...all animals with THUFR/CLAWS, hence, the pig, being a...hoofed (divided or not) animal, could not have been one of the haram animals as it does not possess claws, thus, it was halal as food for the Jews. With this said, once again, according to Al-Quran (ayat 55), whatever food was halal to the Jews was halal to those given Al-Quran.
And that's a wrap...mate lol.
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http//www.free-minds.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4341
Your petulance exposed you long ago.
MAIN ENTRY PETULANT 1. unreasonably irritable or ill-tempered; peevish, 2. contemptuous in speech or behavior.
MAIN ENTRY PEEVISH 1. querulous or discontented. Ill-tempered. Contrary; fractious.
1753Tell My servants to treat each other in the best possible manner, for the devil will always try to drive a wedge among them. Surely, the devil is man's most ardent enemy.
When are you going to stop double talking, going off on tangents, making lame excuses, and simply answer the question put to you? If you won't answer, then you've exposed to all that you are afraid to answer, because to do so, crushes your arguement. In any event, you've exposed yourself as not knowing what you are talking about and have lost all credibilty. You cannot be taken seriously/credibly, when you avoid answering basic Quranic questions put to you.
When you resort to personal attacks, you scream out for all to hear that, you have been thoroughly proved wrong and are now, out of hurt feelings and resentment, responding in an emotionally immature fashion and that you hate, not me...but yourselves .
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Pigs have divided hoof
your silly question been answered
next
About time lol
Well, according to Al-Quran, Allah made haram to the Jews...all animals with THUFR/CLAWS, hence, the pig, being a...hoofed (divided or not) animal, could not have been one of the haram animals as it does not possess claws, thus, it was halal as food for the Jews. With this said, once again, according to Al-Quran (ayat 55), whatever food was halal to the Jews was halal to those given Al-Quran.
And that's a wrap...mate lol.
what is a wrap that you are the most confused enemy of islam I have met online, you make no sense whatsoever
what the Quran is talking about is a different incident of tahrim you imbecile
what you read in that verse is taybat that became "forbidden" as a punishment,
the filthy pigs that you are obsessed with were forbiden all long and never been taybat you fake muslim
you have been done you idiot lol
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Pigs have divided hoof
your silly question been answered
next
About time lol
Well, according to Al-Quran, Allah made haram to the Jews...all animals with THUFR/CLAWS, hence, the pig, being a...hoofed (divided or not) animal, could not have been one of the haram animals as it does not possess claws, thus, it was halal as food for the Jews. With this said, once again, according to Al-Quran (ayat 55), whatever food was halal to the Jews was halal to those given Al-Quran.
And that's a wrap...mate lol.
what is a wrap that you are the most confused enemy of islam I have met online, you make no sense whatsoever
what the Quran is talking about is a different incident of tahrim you imbecile
what you read in that verse is taybat that became "forbidden" as a punishment,
the filthy pigs that you are obsessed with were forbiden all long and never been taybat you fake muslim
you have been done you idiot lol
Nope, the ayats are talking about what is haram food and what is halal food. Read it again.
When you resort to personal attacks, you scream out for all to hear that, you have been thoroughly proved wrong and are now, out of hurt feelings and resentment, responding in an emotionally immature fashion and that you hate, not me...but yourself
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Salaams
the person who said all this crap needs banning-
"what is a wrap that you are the most confused enemy of islam I have met online, you make no sense whatsoever
what the Quran is talking about is a different incident of tahrim you imbecile
what you read in that verse is taybat that became "forbidden" as a punishment,
the filthy pigs that you are obsessed with were forbiden all long and never been taybat you fake muslim
you have been done you idiot "
I wonder who agrees? -TO THESE IDIOTIC REMARKS THOUGH!
God Bless All.
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A don't agree lol
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Peace mz357,
I think the user should be given a warning on how to conduct discussions. If that doesn't work, I'm in agreement with you. Seriously though, no matter how much we might disagree, one only weakens their position like this. It's emotional not logical.
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Peace be upon you all,
Our goal is PEACE, we cannot leave that for anything.
PB is good at getting people all riled up, it is good practice at keeping your peace.
No matter how wrong and agressive he becomes, the one who loses his peace is the loser. He has already lost his, do not lose yours also.
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Peace be upon you all,
Our goal is PEACE, we cannot leave that for anything.
PB is good at getting people all riled up, it is good practice at keeping your peace.
No matter how wrong and agressive he becomes, the one who loses his peace is the loser. He has already lost his, do not lose yours also.
I agree and he will be ignored from now on, but the problem is he raised a post using my name while I ended the discussion with him
you see those open minded mulsims like me can be fooled easy by undercover enemies of our great religion and they only do this to spread discord
but Allah will expose them and will defeat them
Amen
peace
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Peace mz357,
I think the user should be given a warning on how to conduct discussions. If that doesn't work, I'm in agreement with you. Seriously though, no matter how much we might disagree, one only weakens their position like this. It's emotional not logical.
sure and obviously you are a muslim who accepts the religion to be misinformed on public boards by people with a clear agenda
his manipulations of the verses were answered over 10 times by knowledgable muslims and yet he continue to spam the board with the same silly subject and he even uses member names in his titles
can you have a guess between you and yourself in why a memebr does what PB is doing?
think, think and you will eventually realize the danger
it is called in the quran Discord
now we have a media called internet and will help spreading the discord
how do you know it is a one who spreads discord?
simply when he insists in posting the same futile manipulations after it was already refuted over 10 times
also I'm not a user, I'm a member and the warning was delievered already and I accpeted it and was fair
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PBM
please don't raise any threads with my name on it
I have terminated the discussion about the meat of the pig with ya because you have been refuted not just by me but by many
if you have any other concern or different undererstading to any other Quran verse other than the four you are obsessed with, you are welcome to raise the concern but without posting my name in the title and I may look at it
thanks
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Peace AB,
sure and obviously you are a muslim who accepts the religion to be misinformed on public boards by people with a clear agenda
I'm not sure what you mean by this but I have discussed with PB over quite a few pages in the original thread and left it because there is no point in arguing with people who will not accept. The points have been covered and counters have been given time and time again.
his manipulations of the verses were answered over 10 times by knowledgable muslims and yet he continue to spam the board with the same silly subject and he even uses member names in his titles
So does one other member...and he still does spam at times and occasionaly jaunts into off topic rants too. If you ignore it, it is harmless and has no power to affect you.
can you have a guess between you and yourself in why a memebr does what PB is doing?
I see your point and it is something that has been raised quite a long time back...before you even joined the board lol
think, think and you will eventually realize the danger
it is called in the quran Discord
now we have a media called internet and will help spreading the discord
how do you know it is a one who spreads discord?
simply when he insists in posting the same futile manipulations after it was already refuted over 10 times
He can only cause discord if the people choose to take it as such. Everyone has their points and their way of discussing, as I said in another thread dealing with the same topic, I am not in favour of 'millitant' discussions and have never been. I believe it is best after the points are made, to ignore the rest if it is a circular argument. Next time if a topic comes up, you can link to the original thread/s if the concern is that people need to see the other side. It's quite a valid concern too.
also I'm not a user, I'm a member and the warning was delievered already and I accpeted it and was fair
You are a user and a member of the board. Thanks for clarifying wink In reality if any argument has the sentence, "Do pigs have claws?", it's really not worth it lol
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In the name of Allah, the Compassionate, the Merciful.
"He it is Who has sent down to thee the Book In it are verses basic or fundamental (of established meaning); they are the foundation of the Book others are allegorical. But those in whose hearts is perversity follow the part thereof that is allegorical, seeking discord, and searching for its hidden meanings, but no one knows its hidden meanings except Allah. And those who are firmly grounded in knowledge say "We believe in the Book; the whole of it is from our Lord" and none will grasp the Message except men of understanding."
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Sadak Allahu Al Azeem
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thank you savage_carrot for your reply
peace
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In the name of Allah, the Compassionate, the Merciful.
"He it is Who has sent down to thee the Book In it are verses basic or fundamental (of established meaning); they are the foundation of the Book others are allegorical. But those in whose hearts is perversity follow the part thereof that is allegorical, seeking discord, and searching for its hidden meanings, but no one knows its hidden meanings except Allah. And those who are firmly grounded in knowledge say "We believe in the Book; the whole of it is from our Lord" and none will grasp the Message except men of understanding."
(7)
Sadak Allahu Al Azeem
LOL!!!...if you only knew that the above ayat is grossly mistranslated, but that is for another time. lol