My Adventures With The Salafi Saleh!!!
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Salaam family,
On the thread called Dhulqarnain's Mission, ThaPhenom provided a link to a salafi web forum. He said to go there if we felt up to the challenge.
Well, I felt up to the challenge and went there and signe up and everything and you know what...It was not a challenge for me at all. They are the ones who weren't up to the challenge which is why I was there for only one day before they finally just kicked me out of their forum.
Needless to say that I came with some serious issues with the hadith and with their entire doctrine which they could not handle. And do you want to know how they handled it? Instead of answering my posts and refuting them, they insulted me, attacked me, called me all sorts of very creative things and did everything they could to avoid the issues at hand.
At first, they tried to shift the focus away from the questions and challenges that I've raised to aqeeda issues and my understanding of the Arabic Language. Instead of allowing them to steer off course, I stuck with the issues at hand, and when they see that I wasn't going to let them drag me into other debates that didn't have anything to do with the questions that I've raised, that's when the attacks and insults got heavier.
One guy said that I was on crack lol . Is this how muslims supposed to treat other human beings? Well according to them, I'm a Kaafir which means I am not deserving of any respect at all. One guy even said may the wrath of Allah come down on me and my family. WOW!!
The only time it looked as though the debate could become fruitful is when soemone tried to explain why we need hadith. And of course his explanation is the one that we are all familiar with how do we know how to make salaat, how do we know the rites and "rituals" of Hajj, blah, blah, blah.
So I decided to kill two birds with one stone. I explained the issue of salaat as per the Quran and compared to the hadith, and I was only too thrilled to borrow the knowledge that our brother Truth has dropped on us in his thread The "Killer" Argument Against hadith.
Oh, that was the last straw. So you know what they did? They started deleting every single post I did from that point on, and even went out of their way to delete all my posts that I've made earlier. Every last one.
But guess what they didn't delete? All the things that people had to say only "after" they kicked me out. HHmmm.
Before they kicked me out entirely, the Administator changed my avatar from a man in sajdah to a picture of a pile of poop with flies all around it. lol
And he changed the name of my location from USA to Oscar the grouches toilet. lol lol
That has always been the thing with them. When all else fails and they cannot defend their ass backwards logic, they resort to attacks and insults and they get real personal with you. I truly believe that I had their backs agains the wall. I did the same thing that DoctrorNo used to do....I made like twelve initial posts in one day.
They kept sayin that I was wrong, my logic is wrong, my Arabic wrong, my sources are wrong because I went outside of the Ahl Al-Sunna wa Jamaa, etc. I kept telling them to bring their proof and refute everything that I said. My two biggest issue that I've raised were to explain the validity and authenticity of hadith as per Quran and to bring historical evidence that the hadith were written during the time of the Prophet.
They Couldn't Do It!!!. So What do they do? They started off with insults and attacks, to changing my avatar, to deleting my posts, to kicking me off the forum. In fact, quite a few people have pleaded with the Moderator to kick me off after only reading my first couple of posts.
It's just goes to show, you can defend something that's indefensable and you apply logic to something that's totally illogical. But one thing's definately for sure concerning them....
When you shut down the hadith, You Dismantle Their Entire Doctrine!!!. They can't handle that.
From here on out, I'm going to study the hadith indepthly. The science of hadith and whatever else comes with it, because I intend to go worldwide and Expose that nonsense even Bigger than what Rashad Khalifa has ever done it!!!
Because of what we are dealing with, the whole GOD Alone and Quran Alone movement should band together, put aside these petty squabbles and serve GOD as we know we are meant to do and earn our place in Paradise.
It's time to get the ball moving and really let the world know who we are and what we stand for. We are definately at war with these people. They have totally mutated the teachings of the Quran and are misrepresenting it in the worse possible way. Dare I say that they're not even muslims at all.
It's time to unify and solidify this movement and do what we say what we are all about. We have people to heal, a world to save, GOD to serve and Judgement Day to look forward to!!
May GOD grant us the strength and the Patience to fulfill our duties that He's laid upon our shoulders.
Salaam y'all,
Damon.