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    jonny_k
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    Salam DHUL-QARNAIN,

    If it weren't necessary for Allah to mention all what is haram, then how would one know...for a certainty...what is haram and what is not?

    JK- I said its not a necessity for GOD to directly mention everything that was made haram for the previous generations since that is not much of importnace to us. He did mention all that is haraam fot us and the meaning plus the grammatical form of the phrase "lahm ul khinzeer" proves that it's the PIG MEAT and not "contaminated meat" which is made haram. Saying otherwise would be saying that GOD makes grammatical mistakes.

    Ayat 6146 tells us exactly what species of animals Allah made haram to the Jews...animals with claws...not animals with hooves, get it?

    JK- Like i said again and again 6146 are NOT the only prohibitons for the Jews. They mention ONLY PART of them. If the verse meant that then GOD would have said "and for the Jews We ONLY prohibited animals with claws" which is NOT the case.

    LOL! o.k.

    JK- Why lol? Thats how it is.

    You haven't proven anything until you can find where Allah...DEFINITIVELY, made the pig haram to the Jews and those before them. Until you can do this, ayat 55 along with ayat 6146, proves that the pig is halal.

    JK- I did just that using the reverse proof method. GOD Bless!

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      unknownuser
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      Salaams All,

      Just pondering not that I am a pig eater -

      The word Khanazeer = a deseased animal ,as well, So why shouldn?t it be taken as such.

      005.003
      Forbidden to you (for food) are dead meat, blood, the flesh of swine???.

      Or

      005.003
      YUSUFALI Forbidden to you (for food) are dead meat, blood, the flesh of the diseased???..

      http//www.studyquran.org/LaneLexicon/Volume2/00000368.pdf

      Salaams.

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        jonny_k
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        Salam mz357,

        Salaams All,

        Just pondering not that I am a pig eater -

        The word Khanazeer = a deseased animal ,as well, So why shouldn?t it be taken as such.

        005.003
        Forbidden to you (for food) are dead meat, blood, the flesh of swine???.

        Or

        005.003
        YUSUFALI Forbidden to you (for food) are dead meat, blood, the flesh of the diseased???..

        http//www.studyquran.org/LaneLexicon/Volume2/00000368.pdf

        Salaams.

        JK- Thats because my dear bro mz THE GRAMMATICAL FORM USED IN 53 "LAHM UL KHINZEER(CAN ONLY MEAN FLESH OF SWINE)" WITH THE DEFINITE ARTICLE ONLY IN THE MIDLLE DOES NOT ALLOW THE LATTER WORD TO BE AN ADJECTIVE. This has been explained over and over again. Your above staed meaning of the word can apply if the form would have been "AL lahm UL khinzeer" (can mean the swinish/diseased meat) with the definite article preceding both or in case of "lahmun khinzeer(can also mean both)" where it doesnt precede either of them. Do you understand it now? GOD Bless!

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