Meaning of secular government

stillearning

salaam

The leader is ar-rasool, the one who takes the decisions if he choose to consult. He is a person who has imbibed al-kitaab and practises it closely, facilitates growth and gives information of al-kitaab al-hikmah (3/164).

I am with you all the way

As the world needs rules to function and the ar-rasool will take decisions regarding rules. Who is this ar-rasool whose decisons I should follow.

regards

mquran

As the world needs rules to function and the ar-rasool will take decisions regarding rules. Who is this ar-rasool whose decisons I should follow.

I don't know. I have never met him. Keep asking Allah, though and never fail in your du'a.

stillearning

salaam

mquran you stated

The leader is ar-rasool, the one who takes the decisions if he choose to consult
.

and then

I don't know. I have never met him. Keep asking Allah, though and never fail in your du'a.

Does this not create problem as we run any state or society or do you believe in anarchy.

mquran

Does the fact that I've never met ar-rasool change the veracity of my statement ? Shouldn't my statement be compared against the criterion, of which you claim to subscribe?

Does this not create problem as we run any state or society or do you believe in anarchy

Questions to clarify

Who is 'we' ?
How does this create a problem in our current situation? I.e I'm in living in a nation state.

Jaxal

SaLaM stillearning

mquran you stated

The leader is ar-rasool, the one who takes the decisions if he choose to consult
.

and then

I don't know. I have never met him. Keep asking Allah, though and never fail in your du'a.

Does this not create problem as we run any state or society or do you believe in anarchy.

stillearning... i think its superman. Or perhaps spiderman? or how about batman? he has a cool car

unknownuser

Does this not create problem as we run any state or society or do you believe in anarchy.

Here is more wisdom from people who get "HIGHS" from conceptual adventure in the scritpure wink

i agree that democracy is not right .
but how about a "democratic theocracy" ? .
because ppl will have different understandings of the koran . so who will decide which understanding to follow ?

The person who has carved out a domain of power will decide. Of course, he can accept or reject advice from others. If others reject him, they are also free to leave.

I think superman, spiderman and batman would have stood up for democratic values pehaps - I don't see any of them in a dictator role do you? wink

Regards,

mquran

I think superman, spiderman and batman would have stood up for democratic values pehaps - I don't see any of them in a dictator role do you?

How a person with exquisite taste in books and art can co-exist with an utterly gullible naivete in one body astounds me. But you have pulled it off, Robespierre, prince of peace.

p/s did Super, Spider or Batman have an election to see if they can exercise power?

Jaxal

SaLaM LT

I don't see any of them in a dictator role do you?

Maybe for the green goblet LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLL rotfl rotfl rotfl

unknownuser

How a person with exquisite taste in books and art...

I think you have flatered me enough chap. Any more flattery from you would make me want to believe in things spoken in forked tongues...

Regards,

mquran

I think you have flatered me enough chap. Any more flattery from you would make me want to believe in things spoken in forked tongues...

Robespierre, no one asked you to cut in half my post. I said co-exist with an utterly gullible naivete too and i've been asking you to furnish the details of hermeneutics for some time now. So no, no one's trying to flatter you. You only choose to hear what sounds good.