Reason and Revelation
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salaam,
Yes we here about these current news items. But were is the evidence? How can carbon or any elements organise to life form? We do not have the answer to this. We can not proove evolution scientifically. Furthermore for evolution to occur the evolved species must give rise to a similar species, which according to my knowledge never occured.
It is also a fact that this theory is failing in the scientific arena nowadays.
Dr Mudassir
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Sorry jaxal. My friend posted a reply on evolution with my log-in name,the reply is not mine,it is from bmbmm. thank you. peace from enquirer.
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salaam all
Evolution theory is just a theory. There is not the slightest evidence that it is true.
what do you think about the fossilesed bacteria found on mars?
If this is true, then all it means that Mars once had living bacteria on its surface. I cannot understand how it explains evolution.
regards
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Hi all,
When I read scientific literatures in Biological Sciences, I come across the word ?evolve? but not ?design?, as ?design? entails a ?designer? which some contemporary scientists, without valid evidence find inappropriate, as it suggest a Creator. By the same token, I do not see using the word ?evolve? right either, because scientifically it does not mean anything, and I would appreciate if someone could help me to reason with evolution, I am open to suggestions and reasons.
If evolution is indeed proven without doubt, I would undertstand process of evolution to be the design of God. Science, is just a means by which we understand God's complex creations. And it will take us a lot many years to get there. But I dont see why and how science contradicts God's divinity.
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the?o?ry ( P ) Pronunciation Key (th-r, th?r)
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A set of statements or principles devised to explain a group of facts or phenomena, especially one that has been repeatedly tested or is widely accepted and can be used to make predictions about natural phenomena.that's for those of you who say that evolution is "only a theory and is not true." From dictionary.com by the way.
A theory is based on evidence. developing a theory is like solving a crime without having an eye witness to the crime.And as for you enquirer, it is hard to believe that carbon and other elements just mixed together by concidence because it wasnt a coenicidence. God planned for it to happen, so it happened. Nothing in this world is coencidence. its fate. and i think im spelling coencidence(coincidence) wrong.
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Peace phoenix1,the article on evolution is not mine,my friend accidently posted on my log-in name,his log-in name is bmbmm. Sorry for confusion.
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hi phoenix1, that article was posted by me (bmbmm) not by enquirer.
I agree with you, I have no problem if Evolution is backed up by God, the problem is, God is ruled out by some evolutionists.
Thanks Phoenix1.
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salaam,
Yes we here about these current news items. But were is the evidence? How can carbon or any elements organise to life form? We do not have the answer to this. We can not proove evolution scientifically. Furthermore for evolution to occur the evolved species must give rise to a similar species, which according to my knowledge never occured.
It is also a fact that this theory is failing in the scientific arena nowadays.
Dr Mudassir
Peace Dr Mudassir,
That claim of evolution failing is not true. Evolution is still going strong and backed by lots of evidence.
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Hello All,
It is a pity today that scientists have tried to completely rule out God from their scientific quest, without evidence. As a scientist, I demand scientific evidence and proof for disregarding the creator who made everything possible.
Quran is not a scientific book. Quran is a spiritual Guide to humanity. Any attempts to portray Quran as a scientific book will undermine its immense spiritual value to humanity.
The scientific quest is not to prove God's existence. It is there to provide rational explanation for the material world. Science tries to answer the "HOW" question. It is the theologian's job to answer the "WHY" question. Science deals with the world of the material. Theology the realm of the spiritual. And therefore there is no conflict between science and religion. The conflict only arises when religion tries to undermine science like the fate of Galeilo when the Christian Church tried to supress the fact that Sun did not revolve around the Earth.
In the 18th Century Christian Churches challenged Science and it was utterly defeated. Christianity has not recovered fully since then. Islam had no such antagonism towards science since its inception. In fact science flourised under Islam. Much of the Greek learning was appropriated and enhanced and preserved by Muslim faylasufs and scientists. Even now Islam has no problem with new scientific truths and I do not see that it will have in the future.
To give you an example, the great physicist Albert Einstein in his heyday thought that the universe was stationary and later in his scientific life, he discovered that it was the greatest blunder of his career and it was discovered that the universe has been expending from the time it was created. The Quran has been saying that it is expending 1400 years ago, and hence there is no contradiction.
But science also says the Universe will expand for ever. The Cyclic Big Bang Theory cuts out the Creator altogether. But cyclic nature of the Universe can be found in Hindu Scriptures. The Holographic Theory suggests that there is no objective reality which is in concordance with insights of the mystics. So science and theology best kept separate because science may undermine theology while theology will be tempted try to supress science!
Rather, mere chance and evolution have been nailed to disregard the Creator.
Chance plays a part in evolution but chance is not everything in evolution. But this "chance" may be there by design in the first place. So don't worry all be well, only a matter of time before our minds "evolve" to grasp this entire scheme -)
Regards,
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Hi Phenix,
I do not have problem considering the theory of evolution if 'only' God is in the equation, which is more scientific then not having him. However, from ten years of reading scientific literature I do not see God in there. Why evolutionist like Dawkins ignore the posibility of God?
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Hi Phenix,
I do not have problem considering the theory of evolution if 'only' God is in the equation, which is more scientific then not having him. However, from ten years of reading scientific literature I do not see God in there. Why evolutionist like Dawkins ignore the posibility of God?
Khi- Salam. Because they have prejudice. But even Dawkins remained silent and finally asked zto shut down the camera when asked to give examples of just a single mutation which would ADD INFORMATION to the genome and he admits that animals from the cambrian age were just planted there without any evolutinary history. GOD Bless!
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Salam Idmkhizar,
I agree with you. Its strange that they are still trying to say that Evolution is Science. I can't believe that my great-great grand-dad was a monkey chilling out on trees, and I am here on FREE-MINDS talking about him. I think according to evolution, pigs gona fly one day. We do not know because the process is so damn slow!!!
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Peace Jaxal,
The fact is...we are here and according to science we are not here because of evolution, because evolution is not science as they tell you.
Though this do not stop us to research how we come to exist. As a matter fact we are here and deep inside we know that Allah created us. -
SaLaM bmbmm
I am all for the 'becoz God says so'. But even we have to have some idea how we came to being? i mean, what was it? God snapped his finger and BAM! adam is on earth making babies with eve? Was that all eve was? a baby making machine? loooll serious im not trying be hysterical but if we all came from adam and eve then i feel bad for eve. How many babies do you think eve pushed out for it to be enough to start a population? bmbmm you are a scientiest and as a scientist you look at proof and evidence. Neither of has any, but lets hear a theory from you. What, in your opinion, happened once adam and eve came down to earth.
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Peace Jaxal,
I do not know, I do not know whether adam and eve look like me and you. And yes I am a scientist and this is a historic issue so ask a historian. If evolutionist keep on suggesting that my grand-dad was a monkey without scientific evidence, I am afraid I have to shut them up.
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SaLaM bmbmm
Well i can see why it would offend you. But this is not about your ancestors or mine or the girl next door. Its about the human race and how it evolved. Perhaps before we evolved from apes, we were something else. I suppose you dont believe in cavemen either? Bunch of guys running around half naked and eating raw meat until they discovered fire. Then again maybe our ancestors werent cavemen either. Maybe we were always they way we are now, since the time adam and eve came to earth. Right?
It had to start somwhere. We didnt just came into existance one day. Neither did we always live like the way we used to. Evolution makes sense. We were nothing. Then we evolved into what we are today. And this probably took millions of years. How old do you think the earth is? 4 billion years old and even that is a nearest guess. Just 2000 years ago people were crussifed. Just 1400 years hands were chopped off. just 200 or so years ago blacks were treated as slaves. But now, we have evolved above from all that. Maybe not all but you get the picture.