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Is GOD a metaphor?

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    i was just thinking that if we do assume that shirk is creating divisions in the whole, seperating the one. And if hell and heaven are experienced on this earth, then is it possible that "God" represents the oneness of this world?
    hope you get what i'm trying to say because i don't really know what im talking about.
    Just a thought that's bugging me.

    And another thing, disregarding what i said above, what exactly is judgement day and life after death?

    And another question about symbolism. How do we know if anything in the quran is NOT symbolic? like drinking or gambling or eating meat of pigs. How do we know those are literal commands?

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      i was just thinking that if we do assume that shirk is creating divisions in the whole, seperating the one. And if hell and heaven are experienced on this earth, then is it possible that "God" represents the oneness of this world?

      PEACE

      My understanding of shirk is giving or attributing powers to something other than God so in a way probably you are creating divisions in the whole.

      I don't know whether hell and heaven are experienced in this world but they are definitely two destinations we will goto after departing this physcial world. God is everywhere and only he remains forever so yeh all the creation from really small to really big is part of God you could say.

      And another thing, disregarding what i said above, what exactly is judgement day and life after death?

      Judgement Day = The day our lives are played back to us and thus rewarded or punished based on what we've done. Simply that's what it is.

      And another question about symbolism. How do we know if anything in the quran is NOT symbolic? like drinking or gambling or eating meat of pigs. How do we know those are literal commands?

      It's illogical for God to reveal laws and make them symbolical as then we could interpret them as we want and have an excuse as to why we interpreted it in our own way as they were symbolical. So all laws are literal to avoid this happening and they are the essence of the scripture (37).

      PEACE

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        i was just thinking that if we do assume that shirk is creating divisions in the whole, seperating the one. And if hell and heaven are experienced on this earth, then is it possible that "God" represents the oneness of this world?

        PEACE

        My understanding of shirk is giving or attributing powers to something other than God so in a way probably you are creating divisions in the whole.

        I don't know whether hell and heaven are experienced in this world but they are definitely two destinations we will goto after departing this physcial world. God is everywhere and only he remains forever so yeh all the creation from really small to really big is part of God you could say.

        And another thing, disregarding what i said above, what exactly is judgement day and life after death?

        Judgement Day = The day our lives are played back to us and thus rewarded or punished based on what we've done. Simply that's what it is.

        And another question about symbolism. How do we know if anything in the quran is NOT symbolic? like drinking or gambling or eating meat of pigs. How do we know those are literal commands?

        It's illogical for God to reveal laws and make them symbolical as then we could interpret them as we want and have an excuse as to why we interpreted it in our own way as they were symbolical. So all laws are literal to avoid this happening and they are the essence of the scripture (37).

        PEACE

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          Peace be upon you Pheonix1,

          then is it possible that "God" represents the oneness of this world?
          hope you get what i'm trying to say because i don't really know what im talking about.
          Just a thought that's bugging me.

          You are not alone D But I am not prepared to discuss that at this point.

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            Hi Phoenix1,

            i was just thinking that if we do assume that shirk is creating divisions in the whole, seperating the one. And if hell and heaven are experienced on this earth, then is it possible that "God" represents the oneness of this world?
            hope you get what i'm trying to say because i don't really know what im talking about.
            Just a thought that's bugging me.

            I am not one of those who understands all of that is said in Quran as symbolic. I believe there are literal as well as symbolic messages.
            So, my ideas might be different than yours.

            I dont believe Heaven and hell are experienced on earth. I think, in the actual heaven and hell, the joy and sorrow felt would be infinite times the joy and sorrow we feel in our lives on earth. Way more than we can even imagine. What we experience in this life, I think, is just a minute fraction.

            The real heaven and hell would be absolute and perfect.

            As for God, Again I dont think God is a metaphor. I believe He exsists in real. He is the creator. But He isnt restricted in time, space, form, shape, size, etc. So, I think we cant really paint a picture becoz there are no dimensions. He is One.

            And another thing, disregarding what i said above, what exactly is judgement day and life after death?

            I believe, Judgement day, will be a day when all the dead people would arise and be held accountable for every minute detail of their life by God, and He would reward/punish them accordingly. On that day, we will see real justice, where there will be absolutely no error and every soul would feel/agree/see the judgement as absolutely correct.

            ''Life after death'' would be the life man has earned from his deeds on earth.

            And another question about symbolism. How do we know if anything in the quran is NOT symbolic? like drinking or gambling or eating meat of pigs. How do we know those are literal commands?

            Taking everything as symbolic, in my opinion, is a bit of stretch wink
            If done so, u can give any meaning to these verses and see what u want to see. I believe, God speaks out clearly and literally, in some verses, while He may imply some deeper symbolic meaning in some other verses.
            All the verses cant be taken as metaphors as some, I think, are very clearly literal.

            Peace!

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