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WHY CAN'T GOG & MAGOG PASS OVER THE WALL?

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    phoenix1
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    don't ask me about the gog and magog though.

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      unknownuser
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      Peace be upon you Pheonix1,

      Yes, understanding the brilliance of the metaphor does not equate that we should know all the answers. But at least you are not wasting time searching for ARKS and IRON barriers.

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        phoenix1
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        peace idolfree1,

        Isn't the barrier supposed to be a mixture of iron and gold or something?
        that's what my mom used to tell me.
        And i think several different ancient "arks" have been found according to the pictures i've seen floating around on christian and islamic websites.

        And yes, i've still got a lot to learn (and i actually do learn something new everyday) and i hope we'll find all the answers some day.

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          unknownuser
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          Not everything you read in the Koran is metaphoric.

          There are some verses thet describe past historic events like wars or conquests.

          The "wall" mentioned in Chapter 18 is a military rampart built to block a natural pass between two hills or cliff faces. There is nothing extra-ordinary or mythical about it. It's the people who interpret verses that turn truths into myths.

          Gog and Magog do not exist anymore. They perished long ago. Nowhere in the Reading does it say that they will appear again.

          Enough said.

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            unknownuser
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            Peace be upon you Pazuzu,

            I respect the decision you have made for yourself, myself I will not follow that which cant be confrimed, it gives me to guidance whatsoever and is useless. he God's message is not useless so I cannot follow that same reasoning you have used.

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              unknownuser
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              Peace be upon you Pheonix1,

              Isn't the barrier supposed to be a mixture of iron and gold or something?
              that's what my mom used to tell me.

              I never heard that. I guess we will have to get clarification on the word "hadid(?)"

              And i think several different ancient "arks" have been found according to the pictures i've seen floating around on christian and islamic websites.

              lol You can find anything there. Did any of them appear to be big enough for all the animals that were suppossed to be on board?

              And yes, i've still got a lot to learn (and i actually do learn something new everyday) and i hope we'll find all the answers some day.

              We all have a lot to learn, you are not alone.

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                Elke
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                peace

                in general use nowadays "hadid" is iron

                now don't ask ME about the roots...

                lk

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                  PakistaniAbroad
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                  the words appear in 1894 and 2196 and according to my limited understanding can in both cases be interpreted as some natural phenomenon that can be constrained by building a natural barrier.. could be some rivers that carry toxic substances to harm crops or something along that lines.. but Allah knows Best.

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                    TheNabi
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                    Peace Pazuzu

                    How does the story of God and Magog help you?

                    Joe

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                      bmbmm
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                      Good question T.Nabi, I want to know this as well...

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                        PakistaniAbroad
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                        I think the stories in the Qur'an were included for a purpose.. It's my understanding that they were included as a reminder/evidence of the message's truthfulness, strengthening the believer's belief in Allah and the message and the certainty of the hour whenever it comes.

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                          unknownuser
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                          Peace Pazuzu

                          How does the story of God and Magog help you?

                          The same way that all other stories of past events help me.

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                            Peace be upon you Pazuzu,

                            The same way that all other stories of past events help me.

                            Which is? (If you dont mind sharing)

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