Oh dear....How much more embarassing can they get?
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Ok, but how the hell are you supposed to get it on without takin it off?
They cut holes in their robes, wear blind folds, and hope for the best.
This is rooted in the Orthodox Jewish tradition where married couples allegedly have a special sheet with appropriately manufactured openings for the purposes. This has been denied by some though it is probably practised by some because some evidence of rabbinical material exists on it. A sunni friend of mine who is armed to the teeth with ahadithic books once read me the lights out/sheet between thing.
No discussion about Jews and sex could avoid "the hole in the sheet" question, which has almost become a caricature of nookie Jewish-style. So, do Jews really make love through a perforated sheet? No, or at least, it's doubtful, according to evidence mounted in the exhibition. Jewish teachings place importance on the "closeness of flesh", instructing that the husband and wife should have sex fully naked, but under a sheet and preferably with the lights off. Indeed, a woman who insists on keeping her gear on gives her husband grounds to divorce her.
Some think the hole in the sheet notion comes from a Jewish sage, Rabbi Halafta, who introduced the concept to reconcile two conflicting statements in the Bible. Deuteronomy 255 commands a man to take his brother's childless widow as his wife, but Leviticus 1816 forbids a man to see his brother's wife naked. Others suggest a more modern reason for the fallacy that people saw doona covers with a central hole drying on the line in orthodox neighbourhoods and let their minds run wild.
from... http//www.theage.com.au/articles/2003/03/29/1048653902741.html
People saw doona covers with a hole in the centre in orthodox neighbourhoods!
There you are. Sunnis borrowing from the man-made rituals of others.
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Hi all,
I think, according to the hadith, ' complete nudity' as such is prohibited at all times, even while bathing. So, they say one shouldnt be completely nude at any point even when alone.
Nudity
Islam has given such a correct and psychological interpretation of the sense of modesty, with respect to covering the shameful parts of body, that there is no parallel in any other civilization. For instance, men and women in most civilized nations of the world today do not feel any hesitation to display any part of their bodies. For them, clothing is a means of decoration and not for covering one's nakedness. But from the Islamic viewpoint, covering the shameful parts is more important than mere decoration. Islam enjoins its followers, both male and female, to cover all those parts of their bodies which may attract the opposite sex. That is why nudity is an indecency which is not tolerated by the Islamic Haya. Islam does not even approve of a husband and wife exposing their shameful parts to each other. The Holy Prophet says
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"When one of you goes to his wife, he should mind his shameful parts. They should not both strip their clothes off their bodies and become naked like donkeys." (Ibn Majah).
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Hazrat A'isha says that she never saw the Holy Prophet naked.(Al-Tirmizi)
The Holy Prophet says "Mind that you never become naked, for you are being attended by the angels of God who never leave you alone, except at the time when you have to attend to the call of nature or when you go to your wives. Therefore you should feel shame and have modesty before them and have regard for them ." (Al-Tirmizi)
According to Islam. The dress which shows the body and reveals the shameful parts is no dress at all. The Holy Prophet said, "Those women who remain naked even after wearing clothes, allure others and are allured by others, and walk coquettishly with the head turned to one side, will never enter Paradise, nor even get its scent." (Muslim)
It is not possible to treat this subject in the an exhaustive manner here. However, a few instances that we have presented above are meant to give an idea of the standard and spirit of Islamic morality. It must have become clear by now that Islam aims to cleanse society of all kinds of excitement that leads to indecency and obscenity. All these feelings arise from man's inner-self which is the breeding ground for the germs of indecency and obscenity and wherefrom motives spring which, although apparently trivial on the surface, lead to great inequities in the long run. Ignorant people will regard them lightly, and therefore overlook them, but the wise know that they are indeed the real cause of all the moral and social afflictions that plague civilization and bring it to ruin. Therefore, the moral teachings of Islam strive to create a strong feeling of Haya in the inner self of man with a view to enable him to censor the doing of his carnal self and eradicate by his own will even the slightest inclination towards evil.
http//muslim-canada.org/purdah.htmI think, this is the reason the traditional muslim world has included 'complete nudity' as one of the sin.
And like most other hadeeth, this one too makes no sense. And there is no way people can get such ideas and beliefs if they only read Quran.
This hadeeth is telling us that we should be ashamed of our own body. roll
Peace!
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Peace Truth, Sawtooth,
People saw doona covers with a hole in the centre in orthodox neighbourhoods!
There you are. Sunnis borrowing from the man-made rituals of others.
I had never heard of this alleged tradition until an episode of "Curb Your Enthusiasm" last year. It's funny cuz when Larry brought the sheet with him for his rendezvous with the orthodox Jewish woman, she flipped out, ruining his "birthday present" D
Well now that's a whole new kind of foreplay LOL
Kinda like pin-the-tail-on-the-donkey wink
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peace all,
bmbmm wrotethey should cloth the baby before it is born
not a bad idea bmbmm but how will they cloth all while meeting Allah?
Sahih Al-Bukhari Hadith-8.532-Narrated byIbn Abbas
I heard Allah's Apostle while he was delivering a sermon on a pulpit, saying, "You will meet Allah barefooted, naked, and uncircumcised."peacefulmuslim wrote
I think, according to the hadith, ' complete nudity' as such is prohibited at all times, even while bathing. So, they say one shouldnt be completely nude at any point even when alone.
2458-O ye who believe! Let your slaves, and those of you who have not come to puberty, ask leave of you at three times (before they come into your presence) Before the prayer of dawn, and when ye lay aside your raiment for the heat of noon, and after the prayer of night. Three times of privacy for you. It is no sin for them or for you at other times, when some of you go round attendant upon others (if they come into your presence without leave). Thus Allah maketh clear the revelations for you. Allah is Knower, Wise.
Bukhari 1253 Ibn 'Abbas
The Prophet and Maimuna used to take a bath from a single pot.Bukhari 1298' Aisha
The Prophet and I used to take a bath from a single pot while we were Junub. During the menses, he used to order me to put on an Izar (dress worn below the waist) and used to fondle me. While in Itikaf, he used to bring his head near me and I would wash it while I used to be in my periods (menses).Al-Tirmidhi Hadith- 4682-Narrated byAisha
Zayd ibn Harithah came to Medina when Allah's Messenger (peace be upon him) was in my house. When he came to him and knocked at the door Allah's Messenger (peace be upon him) GOT UP AND WENT TO HIM NAKED, trailing his garment. I swear by Allah that neither before nor after that did I ever see him naked. He then embraced him and kissed him.
during nine years of marriage, even though they used to take bath together and according to 2458 used to take off their cloths because of heat, aisha only saw her husband naked once?? shockpeace.
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these hadiths are SOOOOOO EMBARSSSING ,
i am sure if prophet muhammed were alive he surely wouldnt like these hadiths which tell such details of his personal life, i wonder who is the person who wrote such a hadith , writing such personal things abt prophet muhammed SUCH A SHAME on tht person who wrote this hadith and even more shame on pple who follow these hadiths