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    Elke
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    Peace alen

    have you thought about all these people - more than you think - that are born in between - neither masculine nor feminine...

    They too are part of Gods creation.

    How can they find sexual partners that match ?

    http//www.romanceopedia.com/A-BeingIntersexual.html

    Just food for thought outside the established patterns

    elke

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      Alen
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      As salamu alaykum.
      Respectfully.

      I honestly don't know, Elke. I mean, Allah knows best and i'm sure that only He will find them an exit out of their (difficult) situation.
      A person needs to pray that Allah guieds him.

      May Allah reward you with Paradise, Elke. sun

      As salamu alakyum.

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        Elke
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        THANK YOU ALEN

        peace

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          Alen
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          THANK YOU ALEN

          peace

          As salamu alaykum.
          Respectfully.

          Your welcome, Elke.

          I mean, gays and lezbians are having difficulties with the society which won't accept them but we need to understand what made these people to chooze this path, the wrong path but still we need to talk to them and i'm sure that gays and lezbians became gays and lezbians because of some trauma in their life or something else that .... let's say "scared" them or portrayed the opposite sex in such unappealing way.

          I think that people whose sex organs haven't fully developed are not to be blamed but they are a reminder. Once again, they are a reminder of what their parents were doing while mother was pregnant or months or maybe weeks prior to conception.

          I think that if a mother smokes weed, cigarettes, drinks alcohol, lives a stresful life weeks or maybe months prior to conception, i think that the baby could suffer because of it.

          That's why children who were born in the village are much more healthier then we who were born in the city. Our mothers breathe smog, eat unhealthy food and no wonder when they give birth to kids who have problems.

          Nevertheless, we all have to ask Allah Most Merciful to guide us, to show us exit from our problems, because Allah is truly ALMIGHTY. Only He can do ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING.

          Stay cool, Elke. sun sun

          As salamu alaykum.

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            SarahY
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            Asalamu alaikum

            "assalaam alaikum,

            when i was ten years younger being gay was all about lust and sex to me (like being straight was to my friends), but my feelings changed. sex is far less important than when i was nineteen. today being gay means my way of loving.

            i'm not realy in love for the moment, i don't have a boyfriend these days and i do't miss it realy. incha'allah one day my prince will come. there are just so many issues that are more important to me these days than sex and relations.

            slm,

            redwasp"

            So why are you gay? dont u think the impact of it being all about lust and sex in ur teenage years has impacted your mind to think you're gay? im just curious. u can have good relationships with both men and women it doesnt mean it has to be intimate...

            what issues are important to you these days?

            my opinion is that being gay isnt islamic. i mean the people of lut is a good example to prove this.. even science, 2 men cant have babies, 2 women cant have babies.. and if they were it wouldnt be natural and either way they'd need something from the opposite gender...

            God knows best

            asalamu alaikum

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              AspeRin
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              aslm! handshake
              grab 2 magnets,join them negative with negative or positive with positive.you need to do it yourself for them to be toghether,now put opposite poles,bang! allah swt holds them! isnt he the most great? didnt he created 2 types of everything? there is a sign in everything around us...
              aslm! handshake

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                unknownuser
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                salam alaykum wr wb

                yes there is pairs around us everywhere ..one of the most important to me signs wasnt mentioned here yet not Lot's people but the creation of human being in of itself

                what did God create?

                Adam and Eve? or Adam and Adam? or Eve and Eve?

                i beleive it was Adam and Eve? a Man and a woman

                not a man and a man not a woman and a woman

                this book is complete...detailed for everything you just have to see the signs in it inshaAllah

                perhaps Lot's wife felt compassion in heart for others but perhaps the wrong people

                you can have compassion for another person becasue they are gay and a human being and your humble and know that anyone could have become like that or maybe you relate to them or relate to being the down trotten or not accpeted person in society

                but theres a difference in recognizing we are all part of humanity and recognizing we are required to enjoin good and forbid evil...

                If Adam and Eve were created and everything in quran is a sign or lesson

                and the poeple of Lot were destroyed I can not see any issue here about if its right or not for myself

                i would never claim to make something forbidden that God has allowed or make something allowed God has forbidden

                but it seems clear to me where the signs are and logic and reason can be used for me to show the answer

                i dont see anywhere in the creation of human to the creation of animals etc and even down to the exisitence of the creation is dependant upon mating in a natural way (arent we forbidden from changing the creation)

                but perhaps NAtural selection can be applied since they can not mate physically they always need soemthing from the opposite sex
                maybe the natural selection process is at work loool only God knows

                this is also a sign i beleive

                there is a big difference in being gay (attracted to men or women) than actually committing the act....of sex

                just like the people who beleive in the Quran but for some psychological or personal reason they do not follow it all or are uncapable of following it all if they beleive in God the quran as revelation all the prophets the books of God the Heaven the HEll the judgement day the ressurection angels jinns etc why wouldnt gay peopel be considered not muslim its a beleif

                now if they dont act on the laws of the quran just like someone who is muslim and non gay

                that just means to me they will all will face their God for there actions

                I never heard of being responsible for thoughts that arent acted out on

                i could think about killing poeple but not act on it

                or i could think of raping people but not act on it

                i could think of having sex with the same sex but not act on it

                i think the actions are what count.....

                Amanda

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                  unknownuser
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                  aslm! handshake
                  grab 2 magnets,join them negative with negative or positive with positive.you need to do it yourself for them to be toghether,now put opposite poles,bang! allah swt holds them! isnt he the most great? didnt he created 2 types of everything? there is a sign in everything around us...
                  aslm! handshake

                  salam alaykum

                  very insightful observation for indeed there is signs all around us

                  thank you

                  Amanda

                  can you give us more scientific info on this

                  thx

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                    Abuja
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                    My take on this is being Gay is wrong in every way of this world. First leave God out of it. As said above being gay is wrrong because it goes against nature its self. And if you believe it is natural, then look at it this way. If all gays were put on an island by themselves would they survive, the answer is no. The reason they would not survive is because it is wrong and goes against humanity and Gods will. This is a sin, but like all others can be frogiven and overcome. Like all sins this is satin talking you into going against the will of God and Allah.

                    Sincerely, Larry/Abuja

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                      splatter
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                      My take on this is being Gay is wrong in every way of this world. First leave God out of it. As said above being gay is wrrong because it goes against nature its self. And if you believe it is natural, then look at it this way. If all gays were put on an island by themselves would they survive, the answer is no. The reason they would not survive is because it is wrong and goes against humanity and Gods will. This is a sin, but like all others can be frogiven and overcome. Like all sins this is satin talking you into going against the will of God and Allah.

                      Sincerely, Larry/Abuja

                      Peace,

                      Ok, let's say as you suggest we leave God out of it. You claim that if all gays were put in an island by themselves they would not survive. The reason you give is it is wrong because it is against humanity and God wills.

                      How does being gay goes against humanity? Also, you said to leave god out of it, but now you justify that one of the reason being gay is wrong is because its against god's will.

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                        unknownuser
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                        peace

                        I have no problem with someone "being" gay......to be gay doesnt mean you have to engage in sexual acts

                        the same way being heterosexual doesnt mean im engaging in sexual acts

                        The sin comes in either if i say im gay or straight the sin comes in with an action

                        I can imagine about having sex with many guys but am i judgeed for that? or am i judged if i did it or not?

                        I can also imagine about having sex with many women, but am i judged if i did it or not ?

                        Believe in Islam... call yourself muslim... if thats what you beleive in

                        but always seek help from God to not make your thoughts into actions

                        sex without marriage is always a sin if im gay or straight

                        God is Most Loving and Most Merciful

                        But He is Just

                        Think what you want but dont act beyond the limits of Gods law (God wiling)

                        Mistakes can be forgiven easily by God

                        we must repent to the Lord and promise to not do it again and if one feels they can not control themselves from doing sins then sincerely ask God to help you live they HE wants you to

                        FOR HE FLOATS THE EARTH ON WHAT APPEARS TO BE NOTHING JUST SPACE

                        TO HELP SOMEONE CHANGE THeir BEHAVIORS IS QUITE EASY FOR HIM

                        JUST BE SINCERE

                        EVEN IF YOU THINK OR FEEL GAY ATTRACTIONS

                        AND YOUR MUSLIM

                        ASK GOD TO HELP YOU TO NOT ACT ON IT AND ASK GOD TO HELP YOU TO CHANGE YOUR THOUGHT PROCESS AND UNDERSTAND WHY YOUR THOUGHT PROCESS DEVIATED FROM THE NORM (ATTRACTION, SEX,REPRODUCION WITH THE OPPOSITE SEX)

                        GOD WILLING

                        AMANDA

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