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Spoils of War/Booty

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    anthonywallace
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    The spoils that goes to the messenger goes to me. And that is how you give to His messenger. jedi sun

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      Meteora
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      That is the best answer I've been given yet.

      Seriously, someone tell the truth about this.

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        anthonywallace
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        What I said Meteora, was the truth. Im fo real...

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          Meteora
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          Ugh...

          Someone tell me the Quranic ruling of getting woman as booty of war. "Right hands possess" is referring to SLAVES, but CAN THEY BE WAR BOOTY OR NO? That is the question.

          "Whatever the prophet prohibits for you (about spoils of war - this is not saying go read books of bs called hadith), abstain from it." So, WHAT does the prophet forbid when it comes to spoils of war? The only logical assumption is the wives of the people you've killed, of course unless they want to go with you. Why would you force women, who pretty much hate you for killing their husbands, into slavery and even worse, into becoming your sex slaves?!

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            Samia
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            Why is " /ghaneema" translated as "war booty"? This is not the original meaning. Lisanul 3arab, al Qamuus ul Muheet and al 3ain, all three classical dictionaries agree that it means Whatever you gain without effort. Maqaayeesul Lugha and Al 3ain go further as to make the word " sheep" the origine of this word , maybe because they are not expensive to raise and multiply. Does this apply to war spoils? Do you get them "without effort" or price?

            In my opinion, it's whatever you gain, minus the effort and the price the profits.

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              Wakas
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              Meteora,

              For the nth time

              http//misconceptions-about-islam.com/islam-quran-abolish-slavery.htm
              http//misconceptions-about-islam.com/polygamy-islam-4-wives.htm
              http//www.misconceptions-about-islam.com/concubines-sex-slaves.htm

              The only logical assumption is the wives of the people you've killed...

              I recommend this site.

              All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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                Meteora
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                It's a good site but, it still doesn't answer my question...

                • Can wives of enemies be aquired as spoils of war? This seems like an evil to me. Besides, wy would they be considered spoils of war? Are they fighting on the battle field? Or is the typical Satanic Sunni belief invading the enemy's land and taking their homes and wives?

                • Doesn't Quran say you can sleep with your wives and whom your right hands possess? Why would you in this case have to be married to who you have as slaves? Wouldn't it then just be "your wives?"

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                  Samia
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                  • Doesn't Quran say you can sleep with your wives and whom your right hands possess? Why would you in this case have to be married to who you have as slaves? Wouldn't it then just be "your wives?"

                  If you scan the qur'aan for MMA or/and azwaj, it says MMA OR your spouses. Nowhere will you find "your spouses AND MMA ", except in addressing the prophet and in a specific context.

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                    Meteora
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                    What's MMA?

                    addressing the prophet and in a specific context.

                    What would this be?

                    I'm still surprised no one knows if wives/women can be considered spoils of war or not..

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                      Samia
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                      What's MMA?

                      MMA Maa Malakat Aymaanukum Wha your "right hand" possesses. I keep the original Arabic (abbreviation) because I do not wnat to translate it/explain it and I do not necesarily agree with the prevailing translation/s.

                      I'm still surprised no one knows if wives/women can be considered spoils of war or not..

                      The verse in question does not have the word "war" in it. To think that "gahneema" is limited, or even related to war gains is wrong. Please refer to my first post on this thread.

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                        nsws1988
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                        The spoils that goes to the messenger goes to me. And that is how you give to His messenger. jedi sun

                        you wish

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                          anthonywallace
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                          you wish

                          I do not ask you for a wage and have not; you can keep it. My reward is from God.

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                            nsws1988
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                            I do not ask you for a wage and have not; you can keep it. My reward is from God.

                            I know. You asked for spoils.

                            Back to the topic

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                              afridi220
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                              I know. You asked for spoils.

                              Back to the topic

                              spoil means empty Cartridges dead bodies and guns. police

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                                nsws1988
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                                spoil means empty Cartridges dead bodies and guns. police

                                In that case you can have them Anthony

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                                  No longer a Sunna-rejecter
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                                  In that case you can have them Anthony

                                  rotfl

                                  I am no longer a Sunna-rejecter. See 4:59-65, 62:2-4, 3:31, 4:156, 7:157 Messenger teaches and is to be followed and obeyed. Examples of revelation received which is not in the Qur'an: 3:123-126, 33:37, 2:187, 66:3, 62:9.

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                                    MUNZIR_ALI
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                                    Who wants dead bodies anyway rotfl

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                                      Meteora
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                                      Ok, so spoils of war can't be wives and/or WOMEN, while Muhammadans think the opposite is true??

                                      Has hadith fabricated this shit up?? ******* disguisting.

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                                        MUNZIR_ALI
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                                        Ok, so spoils of war can't be wives and/or WOMEN, while Muhammadans think the opposite is true??

                                        Has hadith fabricated this shit up?? ******* disguisting.

                                        Muhammadans are still living in the "'age of ignorance!'"

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                                          anthonywallace
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                                          In that case you can have them Anthony

                                          Send the guns.......... police

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