Scientific approach to God's oneness(old article)

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A scientific approach to God?s image and the Oneness of God

"The early man had little knowledge how nature worked and why, except what he himself could experience, out of this the feeling of mystery must have emerged. The feeling there is a true reality behind this life. This is how the concept of divinity, of the transcendent, a universal Good, bigger that the human and nature, a source of nurture, a ruler on destiny. This concept of power, of a Creator, in the sense of that is everything, a power of the higher and this reality must have come about. In our language it resembles the Transcendent and Immanent. If this can be seen as 1 God, as most researchers think, can not be proven of course. But it is certainly true, that in our days, with the cultures who don't use writing, and resembles early man in a lot of ways, like the use of oral tradition. That with these cultures, it is a common believe that there is only one highest god, one creator, and next to this god, they have to deal with lower spiritual beings as totems, cultural heroes, ancestors and local gods. But this god, sticks out with head and shoulders above all of these lower powers. For most it is a vague, and and incomprehensible power. That in their eyes doesn't intervene in daily life. So this is why they use their idols to ask help. When cultures grew, this aminism developed into polytheism. But in the background, this highest god always remained, although it was ignored. This faith, or rather understanding developed back in to monotheism as it is to be found in the scriptual faiths of today. So after a long route the highest power always prevailed. The concept of religion, has to be traced back in the faith of a holy power that goes beyond this universe, and supports it. It could be that this wasn't given no form, and stayed a vague term of providence, as a creating and recreating force, working in food, sex, fertility, birth, death and the changing of seasons. When this view, that this force exists, found it's own life in different aspects and functions, this developed into spirits, ghosts and idols, with each its own tasks.
It reappearing throughout the whole history of mankind. The remerging of faith in every fase of cultures and religions since prehistoric times, gives a clear indication that it is something that is a spontaneous part of man itself. It is an expression of a feeling and thinking man is born with, not so much an outcome of observation and knowledge of the universe and nature. Without a doubt did this develope into the monotheisms of today, in the God as only creator and sustainer of all things. Far from that polytheism developed into monotheism, does the evidence show that the concept and knowledge of the universe, while it grew developed different gods and powers over time, while the highest being turned into a vague figure, that didn't intervene, and was hidden in the mists of animism and polytheism and the absolutism of Hinduism and in the far east." Gerben J.F. Bouritius Lector in the fenomology of religions and faiths of the Theological Faculty in Tilburg

?What is God? Where is God?? Every person on earth will give you a different answer to these questions. ?Nowhere. Outside the universe. In heaven. In yourself. God is love. God is the Quantum Zero Point Field. God is energy. God is in these rocks. Inside this temple.? These are some remarks people could give. Which one is true? They are all based and formed on personal experience, intelligence, feelings, knowledge, personal opinions, knowledge formed by religion or tradition, conjecture. So is God for everyone different? Is our God experience subjected to every persons willingness of limit to where God can be present in their lives, can the experience be formed? I believe they are all true, and none. Humankind always has to form something into a shape, to name it. An experience or feeling, a scientific idea about the world around us. We always have to label it, put a name card on it. Shape it into an image. This is no weakness, it?s build within our nature, it helps us to deal with the things we encounter in life. But in one thing we went wrong, went ahead of ourselves, crossed a limit. We tried to grasp the Ungraspable. See Him who can?t be seen.

Some see God as energy, some see Him in the smile of a child. We try to find Him somewhere in our lives. To give form to God, to grasp Him. Give Him a place, and by doing so we give Him a size, a form, a limit to where He is present in our lives and thoughts.
I say; STOP! Drop all the thoughts you?re having and let?s start over, from the beginning. Look at ourselves and wonder why do you have such thoughts? On what experience and knowledge you have formed God on? Is it reasonable, did you really search God, or did you search a form or place for Him? Did you allow people to form Him for you? When you reflect on yourselves to see where you?re ideas come from, you will see that, most of it comes from your background, education, experience. All things that are limited and by thus create a limit for God unknowingly. So let?s start over and see where we will end.

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You will agree with me that there are two worlds we can reach; the world we see with our eyes, touch with our fingers, the air we breath. The material world. The other one is linked to this world, but can also go beyond it. The world of feelings. Love, happiness, pain, hate, hope, despair, anger, sorrow. We all know them, we all have a different approach to them, we name them like this, we can?t truly grasp them, but nobody will deny their existence. These worlds are linked, intertwined in one another, they form one another. So let?s see what we know now about the first world, the material world.

Science has come a long way. Every time they thought they had reached a limit, a new horizon appeared. The knowledge of the building blocks that form our material world, got smaller and more complicated over the years. First we started to understand that everything was build with small ?construction? blocks, and we called them molecules. This idea is thousands of years old, coming from the ancient history, passed on to us through the ancient Greeks. The fundamentals of the laws of the building blocks grew over the ages, until the 19th and 20th century we started to understand that they had so many properties, they also had to be formed by even smaller particles. Being present in each molecule in a different amount and formation and giving each molecule its unique qualities. Protons, neutrons and electrons. And of course these later on turned out be constructed by again smaller parts, quarks. Quarks had smaller substances and from there on it never stopped. Now we have reached a point we know we can?t go further. We start to understand we live in one unlimited energy field. No vacuum, no spaces between the energy. Scientists have given it different names but they all agree on
the properties, Zero Point Field, Akasha field. The name doesn?t matter.

Because of this discovery we can understand a lot of things we earlier couldn?t explain, now we can fill in the blanks. Now quantum physics works together with biology, neurology, chemistry, philosophy and religion. New theories emerged from all different fields of science, explaining the most fundamental questions. The communication between cells, where gravity gets its energy from. The field answered a lot of material world answers. But it gave also a new explanation for the reality of the material world. People always hear things like; this life is an illusion, or life is a dream. Most religions say it, the holy books mention it. Philosophers wrote hundreds of books about it. Now this idea, this way of thinking comes from a place we would not expected to come from; science. In neurology there were already ideas that the world didn?t exist outside us. Our senses feel, hear, see, taste something coming from outside us. It goes trough our nerves and inside our brains and the feeling gets reproduced to our conscious. So we can never step outside our brain and nerves to experience the outside world. How then can we know it is real? This pondered scientists and philosophers for years. In dreams you can feel senses, experience realness. Climb a mountain while never leaving your bed. You don?t need a reality around you to experience things.

Life looks like a big super movie, a hologram. The people who examine the outside world, came with the same conclusion. There is no ?outside? just a ?something?. But not only outside you, you yourself are part of that ?something?. Even your conscious is build up out of that ?something?. Life is truly a hologram?. So there you are, reading this, with your thoughts. Thinking they are only in your head. There is no head! There is nothing, and everything. We are all connected with everything. Part of the ?something?. All is real, but in the same time not a real as before, only your thoughts and actions remain. Your choices of feelings when you experience the hologram is all that that is real. But also still based on that ?something?.

But what creates this hologram? Allows your choices? Your consciousness? All sciences show a design in the creation around you and in yourselves. When you read this article, you know it was written by an intelligence. I could have taken some ink and drop it on a piece of paper a million times. Never would it have formed a sentence, even a word. I have to direct the ink, control it to form a word or a sentence. The design in DNA, the law of physics that balance the mechanism of the creation are so precise, like in the words of professor Paul Davies? This can be no trivial detail, no minor byproduct of mindless, purposeless forces. We are truly meant to be here?. So what?s behind this perfectly formed hologram, this perfect movie set? Does the energy field form it? So we can name this field God? No, then you start limiting and labeling again. I myself wouldn?t call it that. That kind of description makes an ?it? out of the ?something?. The something designs our being, our experiences, our world. God is everything, and goes beyond everything, beyond your thoughts. Beyond the field. God doesn?t end up on a chalkboard between thousands of formulas. Just like feelings, the Everything can?t be described. You can?t write the feeling of love for me on paper, you can only describe the effect the feeling has on you. The field can be an expression of God, a way to show His power and presence to us. Showing that you can?t escape Him, you can?t get attached to things, possessions. It?s all a hologram, not real. The only real attachment is to Him. The field is balanced, controlled by perfect laws, creating us and our universe. It shows us a message, He is here, wherever that is.

?It ? knows, ?it? forms. ?It lives and makes us live. It is conscious and truly unlimited in every-thing. And an ?it? can live, but an ?it? is something not personal. An ?it? is something unknown. But we know that?s not the case, we have known ?it? from the beginning. In every language we give a different name, but the meaning is the same. God, Allah, Aum, Adonai, Wakantanka, Ahura Mazda. So many names, but all the same qualities given to the Highest being, the Highest Reality. The Ultimate Everything. And still a lot of scientists can?t find there place in religion, they acknowledge the fact of a Creator, but don?t know what to do with their ?discovery?. The image of that Creator mentioned in the revelations of the world, say the same thing we know now through science. But they look at the religions and only see the traditions and superstitions that surrounds the religions. They don?t take the effort to go beyond these things that bury the true meaning mentioned in the holy books and oral traditions. Most traditions and beliefs that comes with a holy revelation, contradict what that revelation says. The scriptures are more realistic, more grown than the later formed traditions that surrounds them. The doctrines that later on have been formed, has more to do with the power and position the people gained using the scriptures, or misunderstandings that formed over the years, superstitions. They buried the true message hidden in the revelations. The scriptures are always the innocent victims, their words used too give people authority, instead of giving the scriptures the true importance. And by thus later on getting labeled as concoct

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They are seen as ignorant efforts to explain our reason of existence, but doesn?t science try to do the same?

Of course it is really important we have to look at scriptures in a scientific way. We have to look at the psychology and social factors behind the revelations. Their history and purposes for the laws and wisdom mentioned in them. I?m not going to start the discussion in this article, which scripture is wrong or not, how much they are corrupted or not, that is not the purpose of this article. The purpose of this article is to show that the main message in the revelations are all the same, that science shows the same information. That is, stop giving God a form or place. Let?s stop trying to grasp the Ungraspable. God is everything, and can?t be comprehended. This is sometimes hard for people to understand. We are a ?thing? that can never engulf the Everything. But we still can have a relationship with Him. We have been created with a meaning, so to know us, we have to start with knowing Him. Some people say? Look God inside of you?. I say turn it around; ?Look you inside of God?.

I am the Producer and the Destroyer of the whole universe. There is nothing else, O Dhana?gaya! higher than Myself; all this is woven upon Me, like numbers of pearls upon a thread. And all entities which are of the quality of goodness, and those which are of the quality of passion and of darkness, know that they are, indeed, all from Me; I am not in them, but they are in Me.
Bhagada-vita Chapter 7, verses 6 and 10.
O You who are All! You are of infinite power, of unmeasured glory; you pervade All, and therefore You are All!
Bhagada-vita Chapter 11, verse 40

Know therefore today, and lay it to your heart, that the Lord is God in heaven above and on the earth beneath; there is no other.
Deuteronomy 4,39

O?man, worship the Omniscient, Omnipresent, Originator, Immortal, All-pervading God, and dedicate thyself to Him.
Sama Veda, book2 agneya kanda, decade 1, verse 7

The visible and invisible universe displays His grandeur. Yea, He is greater than this universe. All worlds are but a part of Him, the rest lies in His Immortal, Resplendent Nature.
Yayur Veda, Chapter 31. verse 3

The birds and beasts, the trees and rocks, are the work of some great power. We believe that He, Wakantanka, is everywhere.
Chased by bears, Chief of Lakota Indians

"It is I who am the light which is above them all. It is I who am the All. From Me did the All come forth, and unto Me did the All extend. Split a piece of wood, and I am there. Lift up the stone, and you will find Me there."
Gospel of Thomas, verse 77

To God belongs the East and the West. Wherever you turn the presence of God is everywhere
All-pervading is He and All-knowing.
Quran, Chapter 2, verse 115
This is God, your Lord; there is no god but He, the Creator of all things. So pay homage to Him, for He takes care of everything. No eyes can penetrate Him, but He penetrates all eyes, and He knows all the mysteries, for He is All-knowing.
Quran, Chapter 6, verses 102-103
That is so for God is the undeniable Reality. It is He who brings the dead to life, for He has the power over every thing.
Quran, Chapter 22, verse 6

So science and religion can walk hand in hand, they are meant to walk hand in hand. They complete each other. They are not each others enemies, they are true brothers.

?For the scientist who has lived by his faith in the power of reason, the story ends like a bad dream. He has scaled the mountains of ignorance; he is about to conquer the highest peak; as he pulls himself over the final rock, he is greeted by a band of theologians who have been sitting there for centuries.?
Robert Jastrow, astrophysicist

So now science serves theology, it helps in the better understanding on how great a miracle it is we are here. It helps to a better understanding of the wisdom given to us by our ancestors.
But it helps also in one real important matter. In the information given above, it is clearly shown that there is only one everything. You can?t have two everything?s, you can?t split it up in little fractions, or place the power in a certain spot. Everything is one and alone. Everything is everywhere. Imagine, EVERYTHING??Everything you look at, your computer, your reflection in the mirror. The stars above, the whole universe and what lies beyond it. Everywhere you look, you look at Him. You can?t grasp it, you can?t form a picture or place for Everything. God is One. There is only one origin. One beginning. One Everything.

Almost all traditions and revelations, oral or written, proclaim this. From the Bible to the Vedas, the Quran to the Zend Avesta, the traditions of Buddha to the traditions of the American Indians. From east to west, north to south. Almost all people, cultures know the most High. They all proclaim the One is above all. There is nothing else that has power, nothing else that matters. Nothing that goes beyond it. How then can it be their doctrines and way of thinking contradict this? Hindus proclaim their monotheists while worshipping hundreds of statues. Christians claim their monotheists while saying He is split up in three parts. American Indians say mother earth nurtures them. Muslim mention Muhammed next to God. Buddhists give power to Buddha. People who acknowledge a Most High, but are only dealing with their ancestors or all kinds of spirits. And the list goes on and on. They give power or importance to something that is just a ?thing? inside the Everything. A ?thing? that is not even a drop in the ocean of Everything. A ?thing? that is so minute, so powerless, because it is build up out of the Everything. When you build something, or mention a name, you use God?s presence. You ?borrow? God to make a statue, praise a name, bow down for something. When you use your thoughts, you make use of God. God gave us the power to form our reality around us, using Him. So when you praise something that is not the Everything, you praise something that has no power of its own. It doesn?t belong to itself. It isn?t loose from the Everything. It is made up out of the Everything. That little part does not resemble the Everything.

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It would be like somebody grabbed your hand, folded your fingers so it formed a fist and say;? this fist can help me, this fist is special. Hit that person for me, protect me, fist.? Wouldn?t you say; ?the fist is not special, without me it can?t do nothing. I decide if I would help you, the fist can?t decide on its own. I?m its master. Why don?t you ask me to help you? Why do you ask a part of me, That has no power of its own? Where has this idea come from?? then the person might say; ?Ok, then I ask you to help me with your fist?. Wouldn?t your answer be; ?I decide if I help you with my fist, I decide with what I?m going to help you.? Imagine then you helped him, protected him using your fist. And afterwards he would say; ?thank you, I swear there is no protector but you and your fist is your helper.? wouldn?t you start all over again? ?my fist didn?t help you, I did, why mention it even? I used my fist, and may be it was an important means to help you, but still I helped you. It was me, and me alone who helped you. Why mention it like you have to??
So think closely how you ?use? God. In what ways you use the power given to you, and Who to give thanks too.

Understand this and you know the true relation between you and God. There is no space between you and your Creator, no barrier. The revelations say there is no god except God, no power except the Power. This is not only a theological fact, it is now also a truly scientifically one. There is only one Everything, only one Power, One God. All is One. Let all the people of all religions understand this and we have something that truly unites us. This is step one to the higher ladder of evolving to a higher society. This will make us forget we have some differences like our color of skin or language. We are all related, created by the same One, for the same purpose. To find ourselves. All the holy revelations and creeds have the same main theme. We have to drop all the superstition and traditions that stop us to grow as humans and society, the things that are not confirmed by the scriptures and logic. And learn the background and history of the scriptures and traditions. Lets put the revelations next to the scientific discoveries, and get rid of the things that holds us back. Let us be ruled by reason and wisdom, using both science and religion. Let us grow back to another. lets pick up our ladders to God and find the chains that binds us, not separate us. Lets return to God.

God There is no god but He, the Living, Eternal, Self-subsisting, Ever-sustaining. Neither does somnolence affect Him nor sleep. To Him belongs all that is in the heavens and the earth; and who can intercede with Him except by His leave? Known to Him is all that is present before men and what is hidden (in time past and future), and not even a little of His knowledge can they grasp except what He will. His seat extends over heavens and earth, and He tires not protecting them He alone is all High and Supreme.
Quran, Chapter 2, verse 255
Surely the believers and the Jews, the Nazareans(Christians) and the Sabians, whoever believes in God and the Last Day, and whosoever does right, shall have his reward with his Lord and will neither have fear nor regret.
Quran, Chapter 2, verse 62 and Chapter 5, verse 69.

Who, dedicating all their actions to Me, and (holding) Me as their highest (goal), worship Me, meditating on Me with a devotion towards none besides Me, and whose minds are fixed on Me, I, without delay, come forward as their deliverer from the ocean of this world of death. Place your mind on Me only; fix your understanding on Me. In Me you will dwell hereafter, (there is) no doubt.
Bhagada-vita, Chapter 12, verse 6

Hear, O Israel! The Lord our God is one God! Therefore you shall adore the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, with all your mind, and with all your strength.
Deuteronomy Chapter 6,verses 4-5
Gospel of Mark, Chapter 11, verses 29-30

God is the Creator of the universe, its One Lord, the sustainer of luminous objects like the sun. He was present before the creation of the world. He sustains this earth and the sun in past, present and future. Let us worship with self dedication of our soul, Him, the Embodiment of Happiness.
Yayur Veda, Chapter 23, verse 1

Him who I desire to worship and celebrate with my hymns, I beheld just now with my eyes, Him who knows the truth, Him, the Living Wise, as the source of the good mind, the good action, and the good word, so let us put down our gifts of praise in the dwelling-house of the heavenly singers?.For the Holy One held I Thee, Mazda Ahura.
Zend-Avesta, Chapter Gatha 2, verses 8-9

Great Spirit, You have always been, and before You nothing has been.
There is no one to pray to but You. The star nations all over the heavens are Yours, and Yours are the grasses of the earth. You are older than all need, older than all pain and prayer.
Sioux Prayer

Agree and be united Let your minds be all of one accord, even as the learned sages of ancient days, unanimously worship GOD.

Athar Veda, Book 6, Hymn 64, verse 1

Arnold Mol 2006

unknownuser

Science says the Universe is Expanding - what is the Universe expanding into?

I asked this before you didn't seem to answer...

Regards,

arnoldyasin

Peace,

It can expand into infinity, and eventualy it will cool off and form a new big-bang. Why do you ask? Because of how i look at God? Because then i think you don't get what i'm saying. Matter is not God. And empty space doesn't exist. Only places where matter is formed out of the field and where not. But there is no 'emptyness'. But the field itself is infinite in this dimension, so matter can travel infinite.

unknownuser

Salaam,

excellent article!

Hindus proclaim their monotheists while worshipping hundreds of statues.

I heard that they do that because they cannot comprehend God so they portray him in many forms as ?mini God?s? and worship them but they believe that all worship given to those ?mini God?s? are directly at the one supreme God who they cannot comprehend.

But I have also heard that most of them believe that God manifests into many forms.

Christians claim their monotheists while saying He is split up in three parts.

A Christian guy told me that just because their God is three things that still means he is ONE. He told me that water can come in three form; ice, evaporation/clouds and plain water but at the end of the day it?s still the same thing. The water theory makes sense but when I asked him how could Jesus be God and Son of God at the same time he could not give me a logical answer other then the water theory.

God is the Quantum Zero Point Field

I was always crap at science so can you please explain what that means?

And what?s ?Akasha field??

Peace,
Sugar

arnoldyasin

Peace sis,

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I heard that they do that because they cannot comprehend God so they portray him in many forms as ?mini God?s? and worship them but they believe that all worship given to those ?mini God?s? are directly at the one supreme God who they cannot comprehend.

But I have also heard that most of them believe that God manifests into many forms.

What they do is called attribute worship. They focus on certain attributes of God. But that is the same as only talking to your hand. Also they have made all stories where those gods fight each other, marry each other, cheat each other, lie to each other, fall a sleep. All having human feelings and behaviour. This excuse of that it is still God, is used everywhere on earth to hide their idolatry.

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A Christian guy told me that just because their God is three things that still means he is ONE. He told me that water can come in three form; ice, evaporation/clouds and plain water but at the end of the day it?s still the same thing. The water theory makes sense but when I asked him how could Jesus be God and Son of God at the same time he could not give me a logical answer other then the water theory.

Again excuses for a dogma not found in the Bible, and certainly not in Jesus his words. You have to understand people have to make up illusions and excuses to hide their idolatry for themselves. Next time ask him how come the trinity only became main doctrine after 325? How come there is not a record to be found on this? They can only find words from people who saw Jesus as their king and intercessor, which is also wrong, but at least they didn't preach a trinity. Also now through the dead sea scrolls we understand why the language in the gospels is used, but that is a long story. But just give the next triniterian this

Mat 1916 And, behold,one came and said unto him,Good Master,what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life?
Mat 1917 Andhe said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God.

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I was always crap at science so can you please explain what that means?
And what?s ?Akasha field??

The same as the Quantum field or zero point field. Here maybe this helps a little bit
http//twm.co.nz/zpf_haisch.htm
http//groups.yahoo.com/group/indigochildren2/message/2568
http//www.abarim-publications.com/QuantumMechanicsIntroduction.html

Peace