is homosexuality a genetic disorder?
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I wonder how arnoldyasin can be so confident that homosexuality has nothing to do with genes and is the result of hormonal imbalance. There is no evidence that supports this claim that homosexuality is the result of hormonal imbalances. HAd scientists known that, it would have been easy to convert gays to staraight guys through hormonal therapy.
I believe homosexuality is the result of BOTH genetics & the environment which interact with each other in complex ways.
And Ichepren's post may seem impressive but it is actually a bit childish & demonstrates unfamiliarity with genetics.
Ichepren faild to consider that gay guys can also be born of lesbian mothers. Many scientists have noticed that homosexuality seems to run in families. One more important thing which many people do not know is that its NOT necessary that if you do not have any genetic disorder, you do not have that gene. You MAY have it....but its just that it did not get expressed because it COULD have been RECESSIVE and NOT DOMINANT gene. Genetic disorders seems to run in families but it does not necessarily get EXPRESSED in all children or in the present generation. A little knowledge of genetics will help you understand better what I'm saying. Ichepren's line of reasoning is therefore flawed. It could be that your mother or father could be carrying a certain gene but you did not inherit it BUT the next generation may inherit it. This is how genetic traits work & are transmitted. Also if we accept what Ichepren says, it would then follow that the fathers of all homosexual children are gays or bisexuals which is quite ridiculous! Homosexual men or women are NOT just born directly from homosexual mothers or fathers. There is no data to support this claim. Had that been the case, homosexuality would have been a very simple issue, which it clearly is NOT.I'm not saying here that homosexuality is fully genetic nor am I trying to justify it. I'm just pointing out what I consider are flaws in this kind of thinking.
God bless
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I wonder how arnoldyasin can be so confident that homosexuality has nothing to do with genes and is the result of hormonal imbalance. There is no evidence that supports this claim that homosexuality is the result of hormonal imbalances.
Exactly the same thing can be said about you in Arnold Yasin's stead, where is the slightest shred of evidence to support homosexuality's genetic causes?
HAd scientists known that, it would have been easy to convert gays to staraight guys through hormonal therapy.
Had Scientists known that it had genetic causes then it would be easy to convert gay guys to straight guys through gene therapy! rotfl
Many scientists have noticed that homosexuality seems to run in families.
How on Earth have 'many scientists' managed to find this out? I doubt any society on this planet in the last 1000 years has been accepting of homosexuals, western society has been a little more comfortable with it for the last 20, so how on Earth have they managed to root out which parent, grandparent and uncle has been gay?
Perhaps if you really want to support your point of view you should bring forth all this research from these 'Many scientists' instead of patronising people and making the very same weak comments that you are incorrectly accusing others of using on this thread.
There is no proof of the gay gene, Period.
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Peace all,
It seems like the homosexuality is a mystery because if it's not the genes and not the hormones and it cannot be a trend or a suddenly lust for the opposite gender so what is IT???
It must be something in the brain because it's there all signals will go through.
But a question is, this phenomene is of very old origin maybe even before the people of Lut. But still we see homosexuality as something new and undiscovered. wonder why?
Can it be due to the forbidden stamp both the Bible and Quran declares?
I think some kind of homosexuality lays down in all of us, but the one who cannot control it will begin to practise it on a daily matter.
I can take myself for an example, I can feel attractive to another woman sometimes and I can start having dirty thoughts but then I will wake up and pardon myself.
I think this is very common and not so many talk about it. But this is of course bisexuality and that must be more common than pure homosexuality yeahPeace Maria
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Hi there,
What puzzles me, is that homosexuality is associated with behavior that has nothing do with the act of having sex with the same gender.
For example, if a guy behaves in a feminine way... He's gay.
If he's got good taste in interior and design...He's gay.
If he understands women...He's gay.
If he is gentle and not 'too' masculine...He's gay.
If his clothes are clean, and he is concerned with hygiene...He's gay.
If he's close to his mother...He's gay.
If a guy shows that he too has feelings...He is DEFINITLY gay!What the..?
Why is this so?
I really really want to come in touch with my feminine side, develop a good taste in design and interior, understand women(assuming it's possible), be gentle and not overly masculine, be dressed in clean clothes and stay hygiene aware, be close to mother, and have feelings, WITHOUT being gay!
Is that possible?
Sorry for going off-topic. peace
Nadeem
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Hi there,
What puzzles me, is that homosexuality is associated with behavior that has nothing do with the act of having sex with the same gender.
For example, if a guy behaves in a feminine way... He's gay.
If he's got good taste in interior and design...He's gay.
If he understands women...He's gay.
If he is gentle and not 'too' masculine...He's gay.
If his clothes are clean, and he is concerned with hygiene...He's gay.
If he's close to his mother...He's gay.
If a guy shows that he too has feelings...He is DEFINITLY gay!What the..?
Why is this so?
I really really want to come in touch with my feminine side, develop a good taste in design and interior, understand women(assuming it's possible), be gentle and not overly masculine, be dressed in clean clothes and stay hygiene aware, be close to mother, and have feelings, WITHOUT being gay!
Is that possible?
Sorry for going off-topic. peace
Nadeem
And there's also the fact that some actual gays are not overtly feminine.
It's more of a fear of 'losing masculinity'. I've read that in cultures, women do not need to prove their femininity, but men are expected to prove their masculinity. Whether it be from killing a lion in the ancient days or earning enough money to waste it on an extravagant sports car today.
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What about homosexual animals,do they have a disease or are they following the laws of nature?
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salaam all,
i can't believe how people around the world are so "americanized"! let me explain
- being close to your mother does not mean you are gay, this is an americanized cultural syndrome where people demands freedom when they are 18 or above, where guys are glued to internet porn... when they have very little respect for their parents.(arnoldyasin was right, pornography is indeed very harmful despite its partial cure for stress for limited time.)
people in other cultures are also very close to their mamas, but that is twisted logic to imply that they are gay!!! for example, spanish, indian cultures are very family oriented and the boys grow up marryin' straight! what makes you say that they are Gay!?!
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having sufficient knowledge on women's/men's clothing doesn't make you gay because hey, what if the guy wanted to pursue a career on clothing? (although in america it is assumed you are gay because of these characteristics...)
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about understanding women's tastes and behavior does not make you gay... again, americanized misinterpreted culturul syndrome. it could be noted that you grew up in an environment with more females than males around you.
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americanized teenagers try to show off their cold side... they feel that showing off thier emotions(such as crying..) is considered weak and feminine. women have complete control of emotions and feelings in america(for the most part) because guys worship their outer appearence...
based on these limited evidences, i now conclude homosexuality and its influence is more strictly related with "americanized culture" than anything else, i wonder what you guys think? am i correct?
peace, rifat
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Peace rifat, all,
This is one of the more complex issues to deal with and I don't think there is any one answer. I believe there exists many 'reasons' for homosexuality.
First and foremost, and probably the worst in the eyes of God, is gross disregard for sexual self-control. This is animalistic, as can be witnessed in nature.
Second is social pressure. Boys not athletic or macho enough get picked on and passed over and labeled as "gay" from very early on. This gets amplified through adolescence and young adulthood until they realize that admitting to this label would open the doors and the arms of an entire culture of other gay people. Same for young girls who were "tomboys".
Third is upbringing and social damage. Kids brought up primarily by one or more person(s) of the opposite sex can fall into picking up those tendencies. More potent, however, is molestation at a young age.
And fourth is predisposition - whether genetic or hormonal or whatever, some people are just born attracted to the opposite sex.
I think in all cases, and I'm sure there are more, people can learn to undo their tendencies. I base this on the fact that people can curb other behaviors that are not accepted by society. But I wouldn't swear on it, because frankly, I've never experienced it. And if someone told me that being attracted to women is wrong, and that I had to curb this behavior, I really don't know if I could do it.
Peace,
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Homosexuality is psycological disorder and has nothing to do with genes or hormones, that is what I - the expert believes -X.
We know that Vinona Ryder had a problem with theft, psycological problem. This is not hormonal or genetic disorder.
I read sometimes ago about a women that has orgasm if being arrested... this cannot be hormonal or family tradition.
We know that people have orgasm through cyber sex. This cannot be genetic since there was no network 20- 30 years ago, right? and for sure its not hormonal disorder.
Its all in our head. -
Sex starts in the mind; usually the more creative/forbidden in the psyche the more stimulating.
Regardless of cause, it is still a choice whether to act on those urges as in committing adultery.
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And she desired him and he desired her, had it not been that he saw His Lord's proof; it was thus that We turned evil and lewdness away from him; he is of Our loyal servants.