Can a muslim rejoice at the death of someone ?
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So i would never rejoice over somebody's death, nobody's...
Not even Saddam Husseins?
Peace,
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I feel sad for him that he wasted his life on his illusions and caused so many harm to others with it, so i would not rejoice for his death, no.... But people like him should be put to death, so people can feel their struggle was not for nothing and to sooth people's agony that they suffered because of him. There is a huge difference between not rejoicing and knowing he deserves death....
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There is a huge difference between not rejoicing and knowing he deserves death....
lol what?s wrong with rejoicing about the fact he got what he deserved?
Peace,
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This is my opinion sugar, it is not meant to say that if you rejoice you are wrong.......You must follow your own thinking. i just shared my opinion, nothing more....
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Peace be upon you,
No one deserves death, only the wicked charatcer of a person deserves "death". You reap what you sow, if you wish death on others, especially having never personally met a person, then others may wish death on you, possibly having the wrong idea about you. When Noah stated not to leave a single rejector, that means to bring all of them to righteousness, not murder them all. If we murder all the antagonists in life, where will the test come from? Should you not be tested like those before you?
A "muslim" wishes for his worse enemy that they learn truth , not that they die. Musa did not seek death for firaun, but to teach him truth.
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Peace idol-free. Beautifully expressed. )
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idolfree1 I see nothing wrong with throwing a party when Saddam Hussein dies P
I know someone who threw a party when he got captured by the Americans P
Peace,
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Great!!!. Saddam is a tyrant and he killed Iraqis so he deserve death and celebration when dies.
Bush killed over 110,000 innocent Iraqi children, women, elderly, unarmed civilians destroyed their cities and towns used chemical weapons in Faluja is the real hero the liberator.
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Are you gonna celebrate when Bush dies?
Peace,
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I'll celebrate only after I die. And no else is allowed to the party. ;D
Hi Zen,
lol and what makes you think you will attain paradise? (BTW that was not meant in a cheeky way)
Peace,
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Peace be upon you,
We have to understand that it is the VERY SAME GOD at the core of all created beings. It is ONE and the SAME LIFE that manifests through all bodily vehicles. How can we wish death to that?
I strive to only cheer if somehow people like Bush and Saddam can learn righteousness. Not if they die and waste the oppurtunity to purify thier spirits and let the God's attributes manifest through them.
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I'll celebrate only after I die. And no else is allowed to the party. ;D
Hi Zen,
lol and what makes you think you will attain paradise? (BTW that was not meant in a cheeky way)
Peace,
SugarPeace sugar,
Either way, it's going to be one hell of a party! No pun intended
PS - I'm no longer worried about 'punishment in grave', 'heaven', 'hell', etc... I'm just doing what I gotta do.
?There is no worry, for we are all returning to our Lord.?
?We hope that our Lord will forgive us our sins, as we are the first to believe.? -
Either way, it's going to be one hell of a party! No pun intended
lol ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Peace,
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I'll celebrate only after I die. And no else is allowed to the party. ;D
peace
perfect answer (except the no-one is allowed to the party part)
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peace
i think you can celebrate that a person is no longer causing harm in this world. But i think it's wrong to celebrate one's death per say. Doesn't seem righteous to me.
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In the quran is there any example of any prophet (except noah .) praying or wishing for the destruction of people that were wrong-doers?...Wouldnt it be better to 'contain' the persistent wrong-doers,and/or teach them how to behave respectfully?
Peace enq
Let?s get this thread on track and leave Saddam in his misery alone ?May Allah destroy him anyway?, you raised a few questions above, these questions are the result of the followings
- Your ignorance regarding what the God should be
- Your ignorance regarding what the messengers of the God should be
- Your ignorance regarding the Quran message and language
- Your ignorance regarding what humans were created for
That?s a lot of ignorance bro, but please don?t be upset from me because I called you ignorant, I?m taking the prophets mentioned in the Quran as an example who called their people the same when they showed clear cut ignorance because at the end of the day they wanted them to follow the right path as I want you to follow the right path, let me tell you more about a few prophets other than Noah
Prophet Hud
50 And to Ad (We sent) their brother Hud. He said O my people! serve Allah, you have no god other than He; you are nothing but forgers (of lies).
51 O my people! I ask of you no reward for it. Lo! my reward is the concern only of Him Who made me. Have ye then no sense?
52 "And O my people! Ask forgiveness of your Lord, and turn to Him (in repentance) He will send you the skies pouring abundant rain, and add strength to your strength so turn ye not back in sin!"
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(52)-> Sure prophet Hud was not mocking around and was very serious in delivering the serious message, in fact it is the only serious message in the whole world in all generations, that message is ?there is Allah who will hold you accountable and will burn in in hell if you are a kafir?, but let?s see what else prophet Hud told his people
- They are forgers 1150
- They have no sense 1151
- They are sinfull 1152
Let?s move on
He said The knowledge is only with Allah, and I deliver to you the message with which I am sent, but I see you are a people who are ignorant.
(23)
-> Hud just called them ignorant, see enquirer, exactly as I called you, I was following prophet Hud indeed, but hey I didn?t call you a forger
And if ye seize by force, seize ye as tyrants?
(130)
-> Now prophet Hud is calling them tyrants
When prophet Hud had enough like Noah, he asked for their destruction
39 He said O my Lord! help me against their calling me a liar.
40 (Allah) said "In but a little while, they are sure to be sorry!"
41 So the blast overtook them in justice, and We made them as rubbish; so away with the unjust people.
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(41)-> See, Hud asked Allah?s help because they called him a liar and sure Allah?s help arrived in the shape of a mighty blast and they became like rubbish. That is what the verse says, not me.
To be continued.....
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Prophet Saleh
He said O my people! tell me if I have clear proof from my Lord and He has granted to me mercy from Himself-- who will then help me against Allah if I disobey Him? Therefore you do not add to me other than loss
(63)
-> Clearly prophet Saleh is telling his people (Thamud) ?Therefore you do not add to me other than loss?, i.e. they are losers as I call you sometimes, see, I?m following prophet Saleh.
Prophet Abraham
Lo! Abraham said to his father Azar "Takest thou idols for gods? For I see thee and thy people in manifest error."
(74)
-> Prophet Abraham is telling his father and his people that they are in ?Dalal Mubin?, ?manifest error?, i.e. they are dumb
Here is a nice one, there is a common and rude Arabic word ?Offon?, ??, possibly like ?Fie" or ?Ugh? , it indicates irritations and anger if you say it to anyone, Yusuf Ali translated it as a word of contempt, Allah warned us not to say that word ?Offon? ever to our parents, the opposite of it is ?A nice word?
Thy Lord hath decreed that ye worship none but Him, and that ye be kind to parents. Whether one or both of them attain old age in thy life, say not to them a word of contempt, nor repel them, but address them in terms of honour.
(23)
On the other hand we see Abraham is saying the same word to his people, ??
Fie on you and all that ye worship instead of Allah! Have ye then no sense?
(67)
-> As well, prophet Abraham told them that they have no sense
Prophet Lut
For ye practise your lusts on men in preference to women ye are indeed a people transgressing beyond bounds
(81)
-> Prophet Lut is calling his people ?Transgressors? beyond bounds, I hope the heterosexual on this board who are homosexual supporters learn somethin from prophet Lut and take the message sent to us a bit serious not that bloody feel good illusion their ego made for themselves
And leave the wives your Lord created for you? Nay, but ye are froward folk.
(166)
-> Then he called them ?but ye are froward folk.?, can our Muslim hetro brothers and sisters on this board say that to their homo friends?
Then he called them ignorant
Would ye really approach men in your lusts rather than women? Nay, ye are a people (grossly) ignorant!
(55)
When prophet Lut had enough like Noah and Hud, he asked for their destruction
He said My Lord! help me against the mischievous people.
(30)
-> He also called them ?the mischievous people?, can our Muslim hetro brothers and sisters on this board say that to their homo friends?
168 He said "I do detest your doings."
169 "O my Lord! deliver me and my family from such things as they do!"
170 So We saved him and his household, every one,
171 Except an old woman who lingered behind.
172 Then We utterly destroyed the others.
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(172)-> See, Allah granted Lut?s wish, and sure because his wife was a homosexual supporter she met the same horrible destruction, THERE IS NO CHANGE IN THE SUNNAH OF ALLAH
To be continued.....