Why no record of prophets in europe,australasia and america?
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Peace phoenix. From what i have read of einstein he was a very 'spiritual' and humane person....You are right some people can be very high IQ but not spiritual or humane...
Niesctczes' books are absolutely awesome,that man had some ideas way ahead of his time...He seemed very spiritual and humane too...
Peace all. Ps;socrates was also a superb and spiritual brother... ) And as for buddha,from what i have read of him he was one of the all-time greatest,if not the greatest brothers... -
Niesctczes' books are absolutely awesome,that man had some ideas way ahead of his time...He seemed very spiritual and humane too...
How was Nietzsche humane ? He detested 'slave morality' and espoused the doctrine of the superman. Neitzsche in my view negated spirituality.
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Niesctczes' books are absolutely awesome,that man had some ideas way ahead of his time...He seemed very spiritual and humane too...
How was Nietzsche humane ? He detested 'slave morality' and espoused the doctrine of the superman. Neitzsche in my view negated spirituality.
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Peace mquran. From what i have read,the slave mentality he detested was people accepting things (eg the corrupted christian morals of the time.) unquestioningly and without verification.
And his superman doctrine was that people should take action and responsibility for their own deeds/free-will to become 'better,more creative people'....That is my view/take on what i read of his work. Many people use/interpret his work for good or bad.
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Phoenix I gotta learn more about Niesctczes.
Start with his introduction from www.iconbooks.co.uk then move on to 'how to read neitzsche', another excellent introduction.
Enquirer. From what i have read,the slave mentality he detested was people accepting things (eg the corrupted christian morals of the time.) unquestioningly.
Oh ok, I sort of saw the 'guilt' and 'suffering' factor as the main bone of his contention but that's just me.
And his superman doctrine was that people should take action and responsibility for their own deeds/free-will to become 'better people'....That is my view/take on what i read of his work. Many people use his work for good or bad.
As far as I can see, 'better people' here isn't the comparitive form of 'good' kind of 'better. But yes, this is simply my take on Neitzsche. Apparently, Iqbal was said to have been inspired by his superman idea. I can certainly see similarities from what I've read of Iqbal.
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Peace phoenix. The bible,i believe,mentions 'ruth' as a prophet...I dont know anything about da-vinci..Maybe others can help with him? .Nostradamus was also an interesting fellow,some say he predicted the twin towers (9-11.) about 500 years ago...and hitler,etc.etc...
Im sure there were women prophets,and homosexual,and transexual ones too.
peace all. ps;niesctze ideas are sometimes 'unusual' on the surface,but he is a genius,and has fantastic ideas. -
Peace mquran. I think iqbal was a genius too.What do you think of iqbal?
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I think iqbal was a genius too
Well, I look at a person's ideas and use them as face value. I never met Nietzsche or Iqbal but I'm certainly fascinated by their philosophy. At the same time, if I were concerned, I'd be perplexed at the contradictions in Iqbal's positions. Iqbal displayed a very acute sense of the philosophy of al-quraan yet at the same time displayed a very unquranic 'muslim nationalism'. But like I say, this has no bearing on me, only that's interested reading is all.
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Peace mquran. Yes,they are all human,and so have the potential for mistakes,contradictions,incomplete understandings etc...I think we can get ideas off these guys,and then ascertain/verify if the ideas are practically beneficial or not,even if we have to modify,or reject some of their ideas...
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Peace all,
Nowhere do I see in the reading something alluding to that all "anbyae" were from the middle east, they can be from anywhere, even from the amazon jungle, from the mayas and the aztecs.
I think that one of the reasons they seem to come all from that place is geography.
For a long time, middle east is the terestrial connection for three continents, thus the easiest and cheapest way of travelling. Many People from the three continents coexist in that region, the traveller, to locals, caravans, merchants etc... Each of them bringing his culture, stories. It is a good environment for hearsay to floorish, making all kind of stories and refining them. This is also true with knowledge. So with time, the majority of these stories were attached to that region.
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Peace
If I may throw my words in here ....
I feel troubled by Nietzsche.
Some of his philosophy seems so superb .... but not only does he lack spirituality, his moral theory is disturbing.
Actually I would even say that he has more spirituality than sense of morality.My relationship to Iqbal is similar. His "Reconstrusction" is one of the best pieces I ever had but his fractionalizing dreams of two nations.... seems so contradictory to me.
However, one needs to aknowledge that both these individuals published over a long time. Of course there opinions and thought systems evolved over time, changed, touched new dimensions.
The problem is that we don?t really see this anymore when we nowadays take "THE philosophy of Iqbal" or "THE philosophy of Nietzsche".Regards,
Leyla
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peace
what about George Washington, Mohandas k. Ghandi, Aristotle, Plato.
if we think objectively, messengers are all over the place who "contributes toward betterment".
you and i could be messengers too if we contribute towards betterment to inlfunce society...
peace, rifat
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We also have a language problem here.
Somehow the English word prophet (and similar words in other western tongues) also means someone who predicst future events, in a very general way.
Terms like soothsayer, clairvoyant etc. are easily mixed up with "prophet".However, the quranic nab? has a different function. He does indeed also warn of future events but of those of a higher order.
He is one who has news (naba) of al-akhirat and who warns and brings good news to humans, if I recall the relevant verses right.
At the same time, even the word ras?l is quite often translated as "prophet".
Ras?l, though, is just simply one who brings the ris?lah of God, no matter how, I?d say.
He is the one who practices tilaw?t-ul-qur'?n, close following of al-qur'?n.
There are also other related terms, like e.g. mursal.Well, the gist of this
Nostradamus surely doesn?t qualify as a nab? or ras?l. Especially since he conveyed all his "prophecies" in a coded language, not meant for the public.
Nietzsche and Iqbal maybe got parts of the ris?lah and conveyed these parts to humanity but it seems to me that they didn?t get the whole thing.
And even severely messed up parts of it.
Buddha, on the other hand, could have been a genuine ras?l and/or nab?. From what I have read about his (probably) most authentic words this seems highly possible.
But we will never fully know ....
Lao Tse maybe also was.
But again, we will never fully know ...Last note
I think messengers and prophets of Allah need to have an active role. I imagine Niezsche, Aristotle and Plato as more sitting in their little room and writing some stuff or sharing it with some few pupils. But not really DOING much .... -
There is no evidence whatsoever that Buddah existed in the past, all you say guys is hearsay like the hadith exactly, Haha